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Originally posted by ******** What if they were the children of terrorists, or the child of Osama bin Laden? Is trying to obtain information about their parents where abouts ethically wrong in that case? Or a murderor? What if they were felons? What if they just stoled from a market in town? Are there some crimes that warrent police action and others that don't? Because investigating becomes unethical if it disturbs peoples lives? So obtaining records which provide evidence of a crime, is wrong because the crime isn't serious enough? Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, "Improper Entry by Alien," any citizen of any country other than the United States who: Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or Attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact; has committed a federal crime. Violations are punishable by criminal fines and imprisonment for up to six months. Repeat offenses can bring up to two years in prison. Additional civil fines may be imposed at the discretion of immigration judges, but civil fines do not negate the criminal sanctions or nature of the offense.

I'll repeat what my dad told them... Show me a warrant or fuck off. All of those things can be obtained via a warrant for that information. This is a country of rules and process. Going infront of a judge and proving you need this information is part of this process.

for anyone that might be interested



might have to review again it myself, it's been a long minute so i've forgotten a bit of it

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Originally posted by ******** BUt if you father knows they are illegals, then he is aiding and abetting a federal crime.

No... lol acting as the districts lawyer would absolve him of some of that... if was even an issue in the first place.

The children of immigrants, illegal or not are allowed to be educated here. There is no grounds to deny a child education in this country based on the status of their citizenship. If the feds want info they are more than willing to give it to them but they need to show them a warrant. Otherwise they do not have to do a single thing they ask.

This comes back to the root of this thread.

People do not know their rights. You are required to do very little for law enforcement with out a courts order.

luls here he is on abc news

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=7383144

if you don't know your rights you loose them.
if you don't use your rights you loose them.

If you let cops get away with "You are under arrest for not obeying me" then essentially you give them power they don't have under the law.


Once you give/grant power you almost never get it back.


my 2 cents.



~db

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Originally posted by ******** What if they are the citizens of a nation at war with the US? Would deportation not be justified? What if their parents were being deported, would it be justified to put them in care of the state rather than deport them with their parents? What if it is beleived there is a crime in progress, or concurrently occuring, and there are material facts, which will confirm the beleif? What if it is on national security grounds? Eg. people comprimising the security of the US border? Personally I think self incrimination, or incriminating others unneededly shouldn't be done, but the other side of that is - is breaking the law knowingly or assisting others who break the law, the right thing to do? ---------------------------- I think many people would say, only some crimes are real crimes, and illegal immigration poses no threat to the USA. Being someone accused of intending to illegally immigrate to the US to collect welfare - I tend to think maybe DHS really does take things to an extreme when having beleifs of an occurence as being real or imagined. But atleast you know they are really really really trying to do their job. And yes I agree it is clearly political. However police had (have) been given many powers they didn't previously hold. Question is, why did the police not try to obtain a warrant in a federal court?

You have like some sort of degenerative mental condition right?

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby You have like some sort of degenerative mental condition right?

way too much acid

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby You have like some sort of degenerative mental condition right?

He doesn't get 1+1=2, let alone the fact that you must do a before you can get b.

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Originally posted by digitalbreach if you don't know your rights you loose them. if you don't use your rights you loose them.

Can you teach me how to loose my rights? I want some loose rights.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel Can you teach me how to loose my rights? I want some loose rights.

sure...just pm me.








oh btw you meant 'lose' and not 'loose'. Food for thought.


^.^

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Originally posted by digitalbreach sure...just pm me. oh btw you meant 'lose' and not 'loose'. Food for thought. ^.^

whooosh. You put loose, so I was poking fun at. I meant to put loose and not lose.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel whooosh. You put loose, so I was poking fun at. I meant to put loose and not lose.

I know..but i was being sarcastic Daffy duck.


double whoosh





soooooo...nice weather we're having..right?

fuck man, sarcasm is hard as shit to detect sometimes. my bad.

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Originally posted by digitalbreach I know..but i was being sarcastic Daffy duck. double whoosh soooooo...nice weather we're having..right?

bullshit

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Originally posted by Sunsnail bullshit

you suck at Go Fish dont you?

Washington Times


TSA mistreats citizen for carrying $4,700 in cash.


real audio from incident

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Originally posted by digitalbreach Washington Times TSA mistreats citizen for carrying $4,700 in cash. real audio from incident

I saw this a month or so ago. Pretty fucking ridiculous. Stupid fucking TSA. US$10,000 is the limit. Dumb fucks need to back the fuck off.

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Originally posted by Zild Sorry to hear that but I do what I feel like. People get hit by non drunk drivers every day.

you're pounding out some of the most asanine shite i've ever heard. your arguments have absolutely no logic and you seem to think that you're somehow god's gift and above the law.

They stopped you because you were drunk and driving like a fucking idiot. you stupid mother******.


Just because you can spout the words "I know my rights" doesn't mean you fucking understand them. you were stopped, because you were a danger to yourself and others. If you feel that you can do what you feel like, I hope you realise that you can't whine like a little **** when the cops should do what they feel like.

There's nothing wrong with knowing your rights. You had given up yours when you drank while you were driving you fucking daft ****.

Eat a cock.

These tasers are getting out of hand.

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