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Originally posted by SuspicionVandit I want to cry PVD messaged me telling me to take ATB off my friends list. ATB messaged me telling me to take PVD off my friends list. I'm just going to stay logged off myspace so they think I didn't see either of their message. help.

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Originally posted by Minimalism some guys blog. I can care less for the letter but one part made me lol. www.myspace.com/mov3 btw whos jonny klimek and jens wojner and why were they so great?

I think that kid posts at t.nu

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Originally posted by Minimalism btw whos jonny klimek and jens wojner and why were they so great?

They were his producers for his work on MFS. Mark Reeder ran MFS and guided PVD's early career. I think the story is that PVD fell out with Reeder while they were making Seven Ways and split off and started producing his own music.

Basically, PVD on MFS was incredible. Since then he's steadily got worse.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J They were his producers for his work on MFS. Mark Reeder ran MFS and guided PVD's early career. I think the story is that PVD fell out with Reeder while they were making Seven Ways and split off and started producing his own music. Basically, PVD on MFS was incredible. Since then he's steadily got worse.

right on, i think i should check out some of his early stuff then.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J They were his producers for his work on MFS. Mark Reeder ran MFS and guided PVD's early career. I think the story is that PVD fell out with Reeder while they were making Seven Ways and split off and started producing his own music. Basically, PVD on MFS was incredible. Since then he's steadily got worse.

Hence why seven ways was his best album. When I first got into trance I had out there and back first, and when I got seven ways I didn't immediately know it was chronologically before OTAB, but I thought it was because it sounded so much better over all, I thought his sound had progressed, but it was the opposite.

Interesting...did not realize PVD was just another Oakenfold.

Fuck them all.

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Originally posted by Minimalism some guys blog. I can care less for the letter but one part made me lol. www.myspace.com/mov3 btw whos jonny klimek and jens wojner and why were they so great?

can you delete your post?

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Originally posted by mov3 can you delete your post?

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Originally posted by vinnie97 Interesting...did not realize PVD was just another Oakenfold. Fuck them all.

pretty much. forget the faces and enjoy the music...if its enjoyable.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J They were his producers for his work on MFS. Mark Reeder ran MFS and guided PVD's early career. I think the story is that PVD fell out with Reeder while they were making Seven Ways and split off and started producing his own music. Basically, PVD on MFS was incredible. Since then he's steadily got worse.

I beg to differ, sur he had some wonderful gems with MFS, but as you said at least half of seven ways and OTAB were produced by his own, and i hardly call them regression.

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Originally posted by shonguiz I beg to differ, sur he had some wonderful gems with MFS, but as you said at least half of seven ways and OTAB were produced by his own, and i hardly call them regression.

Actually, almost all of Seven Ways is co-produced, according to the inlay notes. OTAB was decent, but it wasn't a classic like Seven Ways, and since then it's all gone horribly wrong.

Some of his 1997-1999 productions were very good, I'll admit. But it seems the only thing holding PVD back from descending into shit was Reeder's guidance.

TPOD is for me also a very solid effort much better than his comp for MFS, but i absolutely agree with you about reeder's guiddance, i don't know if the guy did the stuff pvd claimed but you can't deny that under him Paul had a much better artistic ethic and discipline, his actual team is an absolute joke.

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Originally posted by mov3 can you delete your post?

thats motherfuckin hilarious

some trance djs remind me of a hip hop club, you can almost guess what they will play

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Originally posted by RapidFire ...if its enjoyable.

That's the kicker, isn't it? Nothing from the douches discussed here has been enjoyable for some time.

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Originally posted by mov3 can you delete your post?

you fail at the intarweb

I like PVD's early productions, but his current live sets are truly awful, bile inducing excuses for music.

As for the PVD vs ATB situation, I've often heard stories of Djs fighting over time slots but I don't think I've ever heard of a Dj getting booted off the line up on the night of the show.

Sounds like PVD is playing god. What about the idiots who bought tickets wanting to see ATB? Seems like a real jackass move to me.

To All concerned and interested:

Unaccustomed as I am in entering this kind of unhealthy debate I do have to interject as I am the agent for Paul van Dyk and arranged his appearance at Planet Love with Eddie and Judith the promoters , there's no point going over the details of this really unusual incident as it was not one of my clients that refused to play a show so that part is difficult for me to comment on.

Firstly though I have to make comment on a couple of things because it seems that Paul is suffering from a very personal and unprofessional attack from a dj that he was supposed to share a line up with at Planet Love from contributors on blogs and forums and from the other artist himself.

This is not the first time hat the artist in question has behaved in this way , I had another artists involved in a show with Creamfields in the Czech Republic where again ATB for whatever reasons ( his reasoning on these decisions I am not party to ) refused to come to site for his the set time he had been given... sounds familiar ...

The incident that is now being discussed at such length over these forums is actually not something that myself or Paul as my artist had any involvement in.

My intention of making comment is to help put an end to comments made towards Paul's involvement in all this and to suggest that ATB who after all is the only artist I have ever heard of to reach the site of a festival and refuse to play has been in some way victimised by anyone involved is laughable and more over simply implausible and the very idea that another artists management could or would have anyone thrown off a line up is ridiculous.

I'm sure these rants will continue online but from the perspective of someone that has had another artist suffer at the hands of this unusual behavior I can certainly say that this is not the first time this has happened but I certainly hope that it would be the last ... who suffers in this case?

The people who this whole event is staged for .. the ticket buyers...

As many posts have mentioned what about the fans who wanted to see ATB ? there was only one person who took the decision and was responsible for not playing any one of the set times offered to him by the promoter .. the artist himself.

Eddie and Judith delivered a great show under circumstances that made it very hard by a huge technical failure on the mainstage and with the added pressure of one of their headliners behaving in this way so they themselves should be congratulated for managing this without the show coming to a complete standstill.

This needs to be brought into prespective as a whole , this was a festival put on for entertainment for all who attended , the artists all have a duty to the promoter who employs them and the fans who want to see them play, its sad that this could not be a view taken by all the artists who were booked to play.

Regards
Simon Clarkson

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Originally posted by Mainstage Artis To All concerned and interested: Unaccustomed as I am in entering this kind of unhealthy debate I do have to interject as I am the agent for Paul van Dyk and arranged his appearance at Planet Love with Eddie and Judith the promoters , there's no point going over the details of this really unusual incident as it was not one of my clients that refused to play a show so that part is difficult for me to comment on. Firstly though I have to make comment on a couple of things because it seems that Paul is suffering from a very personal and unprofessional attack from a dj that he was supposed to share a line up with at Planet Love from contributors on blogs and forums and from the other artist himself. This is not the first time hat the artist in question has behaved in this way , I had another artists involved in a show with Creamfields in the Czech Republic where again ATB for whatever reasons ( his reasoning on these decisions I am not party to ) refused to come to site for his the set time he had been given... sounds familiar ... The incident that is now being discussed at such length over these forums is actually not something that myself or Paul as my artist had any involvement in. My intention of making comment is to help put an end to comments made towards Paul's involvement in all this and to suggest that ATB who after all is the only artist I have ever heard of to reach the site of a festival and refuse to play has been in some way victimised by anyone involved is laughable and more over simply implausible and the very idea that another artists management could or would have anyone thrown off a line up is ridiculous. I'm sure these rants will continue online but from the perspective of someone that has had another artist suffer at the hands of this unusual behavior I can certainly say that this is not the first time this has happened but I certainly hope that it would be the last ... who suffers in this case? The people who this whole event is staged for .. the ticket buyers... As many posts have mentioned what about the fans who wanted to see ATB ? there was only one person who took the decision and was responsible for not playing any one of the set times offered to him by the promoter .. the artist himself. Eddie and Judith delivered a great show under circumstances that made it very hard by a huge technical failure on the mainstage and with the added pressure of one of their headliners behaving in this way so they themselves should be congratulated for managing this without the show coming to a complete standstill. This needs to be brought into prespective as a whole , this was a festival put on for entertainment for all who attended , the artists all have a duty to the promoter who employs them and the fans who want to see them play, its sad that this could not be a view taken by all the artists who were booked to play. Regards Simon Clarkson

i think they are both clowns!

pvd attacking atb in several interviews is just bland childish and atb is a big crybaby!
and they also both make crappy shows nowadays!
good comedy though!

I read the whole thing, and what I dont get is why all the replies towards ATB do not include anything about that flyer with different time slots, and then saying about technical failure...
come on...........
Anyway both sides will have to hold their stories, they wont let go no matter what...
and do any of you actually think that PVD or any of his management is going to write something like "yeah we didnt want ATB to play before PVD..." or planet love to write something like "yeah PVD didnt want to play before ATB so we had to move his ATBs slot" It will never happen

@ Mainstage Artis

H����... what are you talking about technical problems???? Did they knew about the technical problems 2 days before as they printed the timetable???
Ridiculous... But of course you can�t tell us the truth here!

That was a LOT of words for "ATB is to blame because it was he who refused to play."

#PlanetLove

*Paul van Dyk has entered the chatroom.
*ATB has entered the chatroom.

Paul van Dyk: Andre, you fuckin' suck!
ATB: oh my gosh why he is so rubbish

Paul van Dyk: I won't play The Anthem, I promise. At least not the original mix.
ATB: I'll play Till I Come, it's my newest and fresh track.

Paul van Dyk: Enough, you fuckin n00b, I wont play if you play!
ATB: Oh my gosh Paul, it's been 10 years....

*PlanetLove kicked ATB at 9:00PM

/query ATB
ATB: Oh my gosh I'm desperate. I'll play my Desperate Religion and attack forums.
*ATB has logged into myspace
ATB: Dear ATB junkies, I know 99% of you are fuckin n00bs, but I should tell you - I'M RIGHT, PVD IS WRONG. He is so hostile against me, he makes me cry for 10 years. Planet Love are guilty . Paul is guilty. I play the right music. I don't play real shizzy shit.
*ATB junkies attacked the forums worldwide.
*ATB is waiting for Dyk's response
*9:00 PM: Dyk doesn't give a shit, he wasn't there by that time.

/join #planetlove
@PlanetLove: BITCHZ, ATB IS A CL000wNNN, it doesn't matter that we can't make our schedule. He's still a cl00wn.
*SCOT PROJECT joined the chat.
Scot Project: See you in courtroom sux0rz! I supposed to be on stage for 15hrs, you gave me only 1. YOU FAIL.

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Originally posted by Mainstage Artis To All concerned and interested: Unaccustomed as I am in entering this kind of unhealthy debate I do have to interject as I am the agent for Paul van Dyk and arranged his appearance at Planet Love with Eddie and Judith the promoters , there's no point going over the details of this really unusual incident as it was not one of my clients that refused to play a show so that part is difficult for me to comment on. Firstly though I have to make comment on a couple of things because it seems that Paul is suffering from a very personal and unprofessional attack from a dj that he was supposed to share a line up with at Planet Love from contributors on blogs and forums and from the other artist himself. This is not the first time hat the artist in question has behaved in this way , I had another artists involved in a show with Creamfields in the Czech Republic where again ATB for whatever reasons ( his reasoning on these decisions I am not party to ) refused to come to site for his the set time he had been given... sounds familiar ... The incident that is now being discussed at such length over these forums is actually not something that myself or Paul as my artist had any involvement in. My intention of making comment is to help put an end to comments made towards Paul's involvement in all this and to suggest that ATB who after all is the only artist I have ever heard of to reach the site of a festival and refuse to play has been in some way victimised by anyone involved is laughable and more over simply implausible and the very idea that another artists management could or would have anyone thrown off a line up is ridiculous. I'm sure these rants will continue online but from the perspective of someone that has had another artist suffer at the hands of this unusual behavior I can certainly say that this is not the first time this has happened but I certainly hope that it would be the last ... who suffers in this case? The people who this whole event is staged for .. the ticket buyers... As many posts have mentioned what about the fans who wanted to see ATB ? there was only one person who took the decision and was responsible for not playing any one of the set times offered to him by the promoter .. the artist himself. Eddie and Judith delivered a great show under circumstances that made it very hard by a huge technical failure on the mainstage and with the added pressure of one of their headliners behaving in this way so they themselves should be congratulated for managing this without the show coming to a complete standstill. This needs to be brought into prespective as a whole , this was a festival put on for entertainment for all who attended , the artists all have a duty to the promoter who employs them and the fans who want to see them play, its sad that this could not be a view taken by all the artists who were booked to play. Regards Simon Clarkson

So this is Pvd response.... well Pvd you did a bad thing by kicking ATB in his ass.. bcos you yourself no good anymore. ATB better than you. You better get it. You mofo.

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