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Posted by Sonic_c on Sep-15-2009 12:46:

quote:
Originally posted by sixofour.604
FL9 was in the torrents 4 hours after it was released. Lol. If any program takes more than a day..then something is wrong.


Not being rude but I think you meant Fruity trojans?


Posted by floyd741 on Sep-15-2009 13:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
We'd all be making music.



Posted by EgosXII on Sep-15-2009 13:30:

quote:
Originally posted by floyd741


+1 hahaha


Posted by owien on Sep-15-2009 15:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Very boring.
for you


Posted by sixofour.604 on Sep-15-2009 20:46:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
Read this abelton 6 v cubase sx 3.1 test



What happens is, people dont know how to use a program properly. They dont get the desired results they are looking for, so, of course they blame the program, in this case, Live.
Then they go bitching on any forum that will listen, spreading their shit around cos they suck and it cant be their fault, its Ableton's fault of course!
And thats how you have so much shit floating around on the net about Live's "bad sound"

hopefully you can understand this 604


Except...that isn't the case. Its not a bunch of people who don't know how to use Ableton who report this. Fucking A man, you guys already said ableton sounds different because of the dithering and warping settings.. WHY THE FUCK DID YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND? You guys must enjoy looking like complete fucking morons. Because you do.

I know what it is, Its because I am saying it, that they feel they have to disagree, I could have made a new account and posted what I said and everyone would agree with me. Talk about a pathetic bunch of saps. This debate is over. Ableton sounds different by default because of the dither and warp settings, everyone fucking knows it, and that is that, yeah I got trolled by mfitterer1, whoopde-fucking-do. Ha Ha.


Posted by Nightshift on Sep-15-2009 21:18:

this thread is teh major lulz.


Posted by DigiNut on Sep-15-2009 22:47:

Let me just point out for the record that neither I, nor Richie, nor DJ RANN have posted a single response to crono in this thread, and yet somehow there are still more than 3 pages of nonsensical rambling involving him. Guess ya can't blame the usual people this time, can ya buddy boy?

I guess Egos, mfitterer, Mr.Mystery, Fledz, Aesthetic and evo8 must also be part of the real problem.

Also funny how somebody who insists that the majority is always right doesn't seem to have any problem with being in opposition to everybody else on the forum. Apparently the majority is only right if it agrees with crono.


Posted by mfitterer1 on Sep-15-2009 23:14:

quote:
Originally posted by sixofour.604
Except...that isn't the case. Its not a bunch of people who don't know how to use Ableton who report this. Fucking A man, you guys already said ableton sounds different because of the dithering and warping settings.. WHY THE FUCK DID YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND? You guys must enjoy looking like complete fucking morons. Because you do.

I know what it is, Its because I am saying it, that they feel they have to disagree, I could have made a new account and posted what I said and everyone would agree with me. Talk about a pathetic bunch of saps. This debate is over. Ableton sounds different by default because of the dither and warp settings, everyone fucking knows it, and that is that, yeah I got trolled by mfitterer1, whoopde-fucking-do. Ha Ha.


Yo douchebag; are you this fucking stupid? EVERY sequencer has a dither setting. If you dither it twice; in two different sequencers, it is going to have a propensity to sound different! Do you even know what motherfucking dithering is?

And for the last time stop putting words in peoples mouths. Most people here are smart enough to figure out all they have to do is go read four posts higher to read what was actually said and not your twisted sideways version of it all.

No you couldn't have made a new account and said the same thing; hence why there are several very long threads on here about the topic. People don't agree on it because it has never been proven. In the audio world when something cannot be proven it therefore partakes in a significant amount of psycho acoustics as i've said hundreds of times already in this thread.

The funniest aspect of this all is that you yourself haven't even done any objective reasoning or come to your own conclusion which states that ableton has worse audio quality than other daws. You took the consensus (from people you claim to be illiterate and stupid) as fact. You took the consensus (from people you claim to be illiterate and stupid) as fact. You took the consensus (from people you claim to be illiterate and stupid) as fact.

I wrote it three times to make sure it sunk in this time.


Posted by sixofour.604 on Sep-15-2009 23:20:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Let me just point out for the record that neither I, nor Richie, nor DJ RANN have posted a single response to crono in this thread, and yet somehow there are still more than 3 pages of nonsensical rambling involving him. Guess ya can't blame the usual people this time, can ya buddy boy?

I guess Egos, mfitterer, Mr.Mystery, Fledz, Aesthetic and evo8 must also be part of the real problem.

Also funny how somebody who insists that the majority is always right doesn't seem to have any problem with being in opposition to everybody else on the forum. Apparently the majority is only right if it agrees with crono.


TA isn't the majority. Most people here have no clue what they are talking about. Look at mfitterer1. He said ableton sounds different because of its dithering and warp settings. And now he is trying to deny it. By saying that "he really meant" all DAWs have settings, and they all sound different, despite everyone realizing it isn't as such. But what he still cannot understand is that even thought all DAWs have these settings, Ableton is the only one that has them set in such a way that they break audio by default. And because of these default settings, you get a lot of people posting all over the net about how ableton sounds different.

Mfitterer1 just wants to claim that everyone who has ever acknowledged this fact, is an incompetant producer. That's his stance. He is basicly trying to come up excuses for his program by saying that anyone who has a problem with it has "pirated it and didn't read the manual".


Posted by DigiNut on Sep-15-2009 23:34:

Durrrr, me crono, me like bible and Fruity Loops, me smarter than internet, OGG OGG OGG!


Posted by evo8 on Sep-16-2009 00:13:

quote:
Originally posted by sixofour.604
Except...that isn't the case. Its not a bunch of people who don't know how to use Ableton who report this. Fucking A man, you guys already said ableton sounds different because of the dithering and warping settings.. WHY THE FUCK DID YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND? You guys must enjoy looking like complete fucking morons. Because you do.

I know what it is, Its because I am saying it, that they feel they have to disagree, I could have made a new account and posted what I said and everyone would agree with me. Talk about a pathetic bunch of saps. This debate is over. Ableton sounds different by default because of the dither and warp settings, everyone fucking knows it, and that is that, yeah I got trolled by mfitterer1, whoopde-fucking-do. Ha Ha.


ok im dropping this now BUT you've changed your story. First you said Live sounded bad, now youre saying it sounds different.
It only sounds different if you dont know what you are doing.
Case in point was the link i posted - guy ran some tests, got a dodgy result, went back and changed whatever he was doin wrong and hey presto - exact same result as cubase


Posted by EgosXII on Sep-16-2009 00:26:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Durrrr, me crono, me like bible and Fruity Loops, me smarter than internet, OGG OGG OGG!


fknLOL


Posted by Nightshift on Sep-16-2009 00:37:

quote:
Originally posted by EgosXII
fknLOL

+1


Posted by mfitterer1 on Sep-16-2009 01:38:

quote:
Originally posted by sixofour.604
TA isn't the majority. Most people here have no clue what they are talking about. Look at mfitterer1. He said ableton sounds different because of its dithering and warp settings. And now he is trying to deny it. By saying that "he really meant" all DAWs have settings, and they all sound different, despite everyone realizing it isn't as such. But what he still cannot understand is that even thought all DAWs have these settings, Ableton is the only one that has them set in such a way that they break audio by default. And because of these default settings, you get a lot of people posting all over the net about how ableton sounds different.

Mfitterer1 just wants to claim that everyone who has ever acknowledged this fact, is an incompetant producer. That's his stance. He is basicly trying to come up excuses for his program by saying that anyone who has a problem with it has "pirated it and didn't read the manual".


I like how attempting to speak FOR me is your new plan of attack. Roffl. I didn't say that everyone that acknowledged it is incompetent. In fact I claimed otherwise; stating that psycho-acoustics and gang mentality have caused it. Only a handful of people have even posted examples and even fewer have run tests (all which came back identical between daw's.

And the last sentence about pirating it I was referring to you and everyone else who pirates shit. Most people who do don't fully learn what they pirate because there's always something more hyped or cooler to play around with.


Posted by mfitterer1 on Sep-16-2009 01:38:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Durrrr, me crono, me like bible and Fruity Loops, me smarter than internet, OGG OGG OGG!


R
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Posted by Mr.Mystery on Sep-16-2009 02:23:

quote:
Originally posted by owien
for you

Uh... zing?


Posted by Stef on Sep-16-2009 04:35:

the past week has been the most hilarious in all my time on TA


Posted by Stef on Sep-16-2009 06:01:

wait....


crono = 604 = gol ?


Posted by Nightshift on Sep-16-2009 06:07:

^^^LOL AND THE PLOT THICKENS!


Posted by owien on Sep-16-2009 12:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Nightshift
^^^LOL AND THE PLOT THICKENS!
nope


Posted by Nemesis44 on Sep-16-2009 16:11:

Re: Please torrent FL Studio..

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
I told imageline on their forums I will be torrenting their version 9 since they don't want to help me or other people having the same problem out.

I really am pissed about this.
Someone please tell me I'm crazy cause this is whats logical to me.

I can still download the FL 8.02 installer and install and uninstall that version fine.
So if image line released FL 9, and I go to download and install it, and it DOES NOT install and I keep getting an "application error", would that not mean the problem is with IMAGELINE and that the files are just not working?

One of the MAIN reasons you pay for software is for tech support, and I'm not even getting that. It would be one thing if they said "we're working on it please give us another day or 2". But they basically asked a rehearsed line of questions, I answered them all, and they just completely stopped responding.

I love how people raise the argument "well software engineers need to feed their families too?"

oh really?
Well how bout they fvckn try working for their money first..


Hey Robby,

Not going to get into all that Ableton stuff.

Are you still having this problem?

I have my FL set up on a different drive to my C: along with all my samples and vsts so it has a dedicated drive.
I did however have the same problem as you along with a few others that followed.

I found that I had to use CCLEANER to get rid of old registry entries, this then enabled me to install the app.

Since then I have run into other problems related to the way that FL threads the mixer but found I had to disable this function for the Mixer desk function.

Do you use dual/quad core or is it standard?
Onboard or external sound card etc?
These things can make a difference and sometimes its worth experimenting a little.

You might also want to re-down load the install file, had a problem once with a download, downloaded it again and the problem was gone.

Let me know what you find.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by Beatflux on Sep-16-2009 16:32:

quote:
Originally posted by mfitterer1

And the last sentence about pirating it I was referring to you and everyone else who pirates shit. Most people who do don't fully learn what they pirate because there's always something more hyped or cooler to play around with.



I think it's the same for pirates and non-pirates. Even if you don't buy anything, there's tons of free vsts.


Posted by Sonic_c on Sep-16-2009 17:06:

quote:
Originally posted by sixofour.604

The only people who don't like FL, are people who want stuff to still function like the old school way things used to function in those real studios people used to use [aka, people stuck in the past, not willing to update their work flow...


Really? i just think cubase is better i tried a few and liked cubase oh and reason is fun if you like making patches

quote:
Originally posted by sixofour.604
Because Pro-Tools is the only relevent DAW that competes with FL............Cubase lost 90% of its userbase at version 4. Can't think of any other DAW worth mentioning tbh.


Oh my god you say some dumb stuff

quote:
Originally posted by sixofour.604
Oh hush. I'm more likely to become a mod than any of you whiner wankers. I'm one of the few people here who isn't a total fucking idiot.


.....

quote:
Originally posted by sixofour.604 Why do you believe Antarctica exists? You only know antarctica exists because others have told you it does


Antarctica is where analogue come from isnt it? and my mommy told me it was real


Posted by mfitterer1 on Sep-16-2009 23:10:

Roffl cron is nowhere to be found guess he finally realized his stupidity

"OGG OGG OGG" LOLOLOL


Posted by owien on Sep-16-2009 23:38:

quote:
Originally posted by mfitterer1
Roffl cron is nowhere to be found guess he finally realized his stupidity

"OGG OGG OGG" LOLOLOL
either that or was taken aback by your trolling skills


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