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Originally posted by Sadface I've been 3 years and counting. Best times of my life by far. I'm hopefully gonna put a day party camp together this year but we'll see, an art/party car might end up being a better investment (ps - looking for more peeps who'd be down to throw in some time and/or money. pm me, heh).

3 years here as well. 2006-2008. i saw wolf and lamb out there. they sucked. the end. saw lee burridge at the deep end too, he sucked too, nobody was really into it. i imagine they sound much better in a club rather than a noisy dusty windy environment surrounded by fire explosions, glowsticks, shirt cockers, bicycles with blinking lights ridden by people with ADD high on lsd, etc... that style of music does not go down well out there, too many distractions. their comment about the music being outdated shows they are still new to BM and havent figured it out yet. though im glad to hear they took inspiration from the event and brightened up their sound (they mention less people wearing black at their events now)

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Originally posted by bas Permanent Vacation, DFA and Running Back playing second fiddle to W+L and Hyperdub is criminal. I don't get RAs hard-on for dubstep

Why is that? I also agree that Wolf + Lamb released some of the nastiest records in that whole spectrum of dance music this year. The Significant Others EP especially, to me at least, can be considered a very well thought landmark in the whole current deep house scene, and if it isn't I'd call it underrated along with Aphrika which was the tightest track this year imo. I also have labels I'd place above W+L, but they were just phenomenally selective and there's hardly anything I didn't like from them this year.

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Originally posted by epdarks RA is on the disco edit fad too

I wouldn't say that they're on the fad so much as they've championed it. The deep house and disco movement has been prevalent on RA for a while. They had Mark E do a podcast for them when people were still creaming their pants for Dubfire

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Originally posted by wotyzoid Why is that?

Because I feel they're much better labels. Wolf + Lamb is great, but c'mon...Running Back released Tensnake's In The End EP as well as Precious System's Voice From Planet Love. Easily label of the year material.

edit // No Delusions Of Grandieur on that last either?? RA is slipping

I'll try not to draw this out any further but I agree with Max. If "everybody is begging you to release your edits" then put them out there for free. A la James Holden and his Britney Spears remixes. Wolf and Lamb even has free shit up on their website, including a Michael Jackson "Rework" by Nicolas Jaar.

I hate to say it, but Soul Clap / Gadi & Zev put these out there because there was demand and they knew they could make a quick buck on them while concurrently remaining in relative obscurity so they likely wouldn't feel the heavy hand of a Motown lawyer laying some justice down on them.

It just reeks of greed in my opinion.

In other news, maybe I'll listen to that "Chicago Afterhours" set for a laugh to see just what I didn't miss, according to pretty much everyone who was there.

so does anyone know where to get that janet jackson or prince edit?

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Originally posted by bigsnail so does anyone know where to get that janet jackson or prince edit?

Have you tried e-mailing Soul Clap? That might actually work

It's probably forthcoming on W+L Black.

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Originally posted by bas Have you tried e-mailing Soul Clap? That might actually work

actually, i have thought about that. i'll give it shot tonight.

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Originally posted by bas Because I feel they're much better labels. Wolf + Lamb is great, but c'mon...Running Back released Tensnake's In The End EP as well as Precious System's Voice From Planet Love. Easily label of the year material.

Fair enough. I don't think it's that outrageous, though.

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Originally posted by stev� 3 years here as well. 2006-2008. i saw wolf and lamb out there. they sucked. the end. saw lee burridge at the deep end too, he sucked too, nobody was really into it. i imagine they sound much better in a club rather than a noisy dusty windy environment surrounded by fire explosions, glowsticks, shirt cockers, bicycles with blinking lights ridden by people with ADD high on lsd, etc... that style of music does not go down well out there, too many distractions. their comment about the music being outdated shows they are still new to BM and havent figured it out yet. though im glad to hear they took inspiration from the event and brightened up their sound (they mention less people wearing black at their events now)

I missed wolf and lamb, too much other stuff going on. There's definitely demand for funky tech house there at the day parties. It was the staple of The Deep End (RIP), Pink Mammoth (which goes off!) and tons of other smaller camps. Nighttime on the playa is for big, epic, bass-heavy music, so I can see why they'd have problems trying to compete.

I'm surprised that they said it was all about D&B and Trance though. Last year, apart from Armin there was pretty much 0 trance, and nobody plays D&B its all dubstep (which seemed like it was on a full 50% of the big sound systems).

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Originally posted by bigsnail so does anyone know where to get that janet jackson or prince edit?

Damn, didn't know they had Janet and Price edits too...samples?

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Originally posted by UWM I'll try not to draw this out any further but I agree with Max. If "everybody is begging you to release your edits" then put them out there for free. A la James Holden and his Britney Spears remixes. Wolf and Lamb even has free shit up on their website, including a Michael Jackson "Rework" by Nicolas Jaar. I hate to say it, but Soul Clap / Gadi & Zev put these out there because there was demand and they knew they could make a quick buck on them while concurrently remaining in relative obscurity so they likely wouldn't feel the heavy hand of a Motown lawyer laying some justice down on them. It just reeks of greed in my opinion.

Yeah like I said, I don't really agree with it, but I understand the rationale, and they decided to gamble. I don't think they sold that much anyway.

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Originally posted by epdarks even if you consider the sampling "ok"... isn't it a bit weak to bank your entire label on edits of existing music? not only the entire label, but the entire sound that w+l represents. it's all ripped off. maybe that's the point, i don't really know. when i listen to their sets i just wait for the next track and say "oh look another disco edit" i'll admit i don't know their catalog front to back, but their live sets are all the same...

nevermind not going to get into this

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Originally posted by heyguys nevermind not going to get into this

its ok. we read it the first time when you said you dont sample and that you sing all the vocals yourself and all the guys on the label lose money with every release.

dont know why you would delete that, i think its important insight to clear up the assumptions these armchair ravers make.

Maayan Nidam's (aka Miss Fitz) podcast is up on the Op

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Originally posted by UWM In other news, maybe I'll listen to that "Chicago Afterhours" set for a laugh to see just what I didn't miss, according to pretty much everyone who was there.

someone actually recorded and released that set?!?

and also, i agree with max but i still love soul clap and the wolf + lamb releases right now.

look at soul clap - conscious. it varies very little from "conscious of my conscience" by womack and womack. they didn't even bother really re-arranging it that much, it's just the original track with a different percussive line, for the most part. and yeah, call it "womack + womack - conscious of my conscience (soul clap edit/remix/bootleg/whatever)", don't represent it as your own shit.

people got all pissed off when tiesto pawned off "adagio for strings" as his own, people got pissed when trentemoller's remix of "les djinns" got renamed, replaced with a 4x4 kick, and sold off as someone else's shit (check beatport for sampleage). why is it ok for soul clap to do so, but not anyone else? hypocritical.

again, i like soul clap. they rocked in chicago earlier this year. but from an ethical standpoint as producers, get the rights for the samples, or fucking release it for free. straight-up plagiarism is one of the worst offenses in music, imo.

ok but now i need the tracklist for maayan's set.

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue and also, i agree with max but i still love soul clap and the wolf + lamb releases right now. look at soul clap - conscious. it varies very little from "conscious of my conscience" by womack and womack. they didn't even bother really re-arranging it that much, it's just the original track with a different percussive line, for the most part. and yeah, call it "womack + womack - conscious of my conscience (soul clap edit/remix/bootleg/whatever)", don't represent it as your own shit. people got all pissed off when tiesto pawned off "adagio for strings" as his own, people got pissed when trentemoller's remix of "les djinns" got renamed, replaced with a 4x4 kick, and sold off as someone else's shit (check beatport for sampleage). why is it ok for soul clap to do so, but not anyone else? hypocritical. again, i like soul clap. they rocked in chicago earlier this year. but from an ethical standpoint as producers, get the rights for the samples, or fucking release it for free. straight-up plagiarism is one of the worst offenses in music, imo.

This. In fact, the whole point about Adagio/Les Djinns is probably one of the best arguments made in that particular discussion.

Any more podcasts available?

Dj snobo

what?

Podcast Episode 100: A Retrospective 111 minute journey through W+L classics, mixed by DJ Snobo

http://wolflambmusic.com/mp3/WLP100...ctive_Snobo.mp3

1) soul clap - michael went to heaven [wl55]
2) soul clap - love light [wlb01]
3) no regular play - ladyluck (slow hand's remix) [wlm07]
4) michael j collins - i just wanna be your disco bitch [wl056]
5) soul clap - conscious [wlb01]
6) hot natured - leectric feel [wlb02]
7) hot natured - electric jones [wlb02]
8) michael j collins - sloppy baby moonbeam powder [wl056]
9) no regular play - derecha [wlm05]
10) jones & mizrahi - nasty things [wlb04]
11) gadi mizrahi - i'll set your house [wlm04]
12) seth troxler - love never sleeps (gadi mizrahi remix) [wlx01]
13) wolf + lamb - if u had (shaun reeves edit) [wlm03]
14) wolf + lamb - idiosyncratic [wlm03]
15) no regular play - owe me (nicolas jaar remix) [wl057]
16) smirk, wolf + lamb - you will find [wl048]
17) wolf + lamb - keep me up all night [dancing] [wlm03]
18) wolf + lamb - must be brooklynn [wlm04]
19) zev - this feeling [wlm04]
20) nicolas jaar - the student [wl049]

although i'm not sure how these are old enough to be considered "classics"

btw, if any of you ever get the chance to see Nicolas Jaar live... DO IT! he blew my mind at the Marcy last Friday.

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Originally posted by JPlay Any more podcasts available?

Did you check the W+L website, or...?

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