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i like some early detroit techno and some early german techno, but the rest i don't get nor like. i don't undertsand how so many people like it.

Millenium prog (circa 2000-2002) is overrated. all the producers did was loop a bassline with a few layers the entire track. sure, there's some exceptions but most of tracks are shat!!!

Reading back that argument from three years ago, I actually pulled a very shitty sleight-of-hand trick on wotyzoid in that argument and I probably owe him an apology.

EDIT: No wait, reading it back more carefully, I had actually covered my bases. Was starting to feel guilty for a moment then. I should probably still feel guilty for being an aggressive asshole though.

Am I the only one who finds Hardfloor's Acperience overrated and slightly cheesy?

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J EDIT: No wait, reading it back more carefully, I had actually covered my bases. Was starting to feel guilty for a moment then. I should probably still feel guilty for being an aggressive asshole though.

haha good riddance mate.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I should probably still feel guilty for being an aggressive asshole though.

You're always an aggressive asshole; it's ok, it's fun. Like I've told you before, though, you should give meditation a shot. That kind of attitude can't be good for you.

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Originally posted by AlphaStarred Am I the only one who finds Hardfloor's Acperience overrated and slightly cheesy?

Acperience strikes a balancing act between furious acid abstraction and dancefloor accessibility, which is why it's an enduring classic. I suspect you're too far down the 303 rabbit-hole; a lot of the acid tracks you post sound to me like the kind of music teenagers obsess over to irritate their parents.

I'm not a fan of Moodymann. Maybe I haven't given him a fair chance or looked at enough of his catalog, but every time I try out his tracks I just think meh...

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J a lot of the acid tracks you post sound to me like the kind of music teenagers obsess over to irritate their parents.

Ok. A lot of the acid tracks you post sound to me like you have shitty taste in music. I guess it's all subjective, eh?

I've never really liked Hardfloor, even before I became an acid head.

Perhaps most of the acid I post requires somewhat of an acquired taste, which is quite common on Discogs, but not so much here, apparently. Teenagers? Seriously? I've yet to meet a teenager that's into early 90's warehouse acid. From what I've seen, it's more of an oldschool crowd, heralding from the early-mid 90s.

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Originally posted by Floorfiller I'm not a fan of Moodymann. Maybe I haven't given him a fair chance or looked at enough of his catalog, but every time I try out his tracks I just think meh...

Get out.

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Originally posted by wotyzoid Get out.

suggestions maybe?

I ain't no need to make no suggestions. C'mon nucca.

Niggas don't know, just type moodymann on youtube and bam, bitch.

95% of Dance Mania is dog shit and the recent cult following of the label is just one huge circlejerk of people that think that anything 'raw' must be good.

The only thing Raw about Germany these days is the smell of rotting boiled cabbage.

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Originally posted by Woony 95% of Dance Mania is dog shit and the recent cult following of the label is just one huge circlejerk of people that think that anything 'raw' must be good.

You get out, too.

yeah sorry, still not getting it. don't see what the big deal is.

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Originally posted by AlphaStarred Teenagers? Seriously? I've yet to meet a teenager that's into early 90's warehouse acid. From what I've seen, it's more of an oldschool crowd, heralding from the early-mid 90s.

What I mean is the kind of stuff you post reminds me of rather extreme genres like breakcore where there's an obsession with a very niche set of musical characteristics, almost always defined by their extremism. It strikes me as niche-for-its-own-sake, a purposeful self-alienation by those who want to self-identify as outsiders.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J What I mean is the kind of stuff you post reminds me of rather extreme genres like breakcore where there's an obsession with a very niche set of musical characteristics, almost always defined by their extremism. It strikes me as niche-for-its-own-sake, a purposeful self-alienation by those who want to self-identify as outsiders.

I'm not sure why you'd think that way. In addition to some acidcore stuff I'd posted - which you may consider "extreme" - I've also posted tracks like Afghan Acid and Give Your Body, both of which are classics in the acid genre, and are hardly extreme in any sense. I'm not sure where you'd find an obsession with particular musical characteristics, as I've posted a variety of acid tracks, quite different in style.

I also think "a purposeful self-alienation..." to identify as an outsider is quite ludicrous. The reason why I like what I do is because I find it tasteful, not because it's "underground" or different from what most people may listen to. To listen to certain music in order to identify as an outsider would be quite childish, don't you think?

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Originally posted by AlphaStarred I also think "a purposeful self-alienation..." to identify as an outsider is quite ludicrous. The reason why I like what I do is because I find it tasteful, not because it's "underground" or different from what most people may listen to. To listen to certain music in order to identify as an outsider would be quite childish, don't you think?

Hence why I mentioned teenagers. And I firmly believe there is always a strong degree of identity-formation involved in one's personal tastes, conscious or not. Perhaps I'm totally wrong about why you don't like Acperience, but I certainly think its appeal is in how it finds a nice balance between acid mayhem without going off the deep end into esotericism.

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Originally posted by Floorfiller yeah sorry, still not getting it. don't see what the big deal is.

Can't help you then, friend.

if anything that really bugs me in music it's the "slow it way down"-movement in that greyzone of modern post-hiphop and other various offshoots. the origin or inspiration of this stuff comes from screw & obviously trip-hop but also the experimentation of what hiphop can be from the likes of flylo and ilk.

i cannot for the life of me stand these productions that sounds like they are done to sound pitched down or slowed down just for the fuck of it. it sounds like a third rate modern interpretation of trip-hop and all that jazz. and this shit is all the rage with blogs, hipsters, musicjournalists & writers that were teenagers in the 90's. and this shit is played out in clubs. the fuck.




also, one of things that boggled me with this thread is this. i thought the idea was to post the opinion at hand just because it's no point to start an arguement for the fuck of it. obviously, that wasn't the case. but then again i know from my own history as a selfproclaimed knowitall & fuckwit, i would probably be harder on anyone saying "what are you talking about, this shit is great". i would also probably go straight to ad hominem after the first retort.

Marcel Dettman's productions suck.

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Originally posted by Chimney Marcel Dettman's productions suck.

Stylistically I don't like everything he's done but his sound design just sounds SO fucking good when played loud, incredibly clear, simple and punchy. I think he might have the best technical production in techno when it comes to club tracks. I very rarely pull the 'you'll have to hear it in the club!' card but a Dettmann track only fully makes sense when you've heard it on a system. With most tracks I don't really change my mind after hearing them on a system but with a Dettmann track it's like night and day.

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