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Either way, someone has to pay to feed and house all of those fucks, so no one wins.

Two guys in their late-teens were also sentenced to four years in jail, for attempting to organise riots on Facebook.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Yeah, but the LA Riots were managed by the fact that so many Asian shopkeepers were well-armed.

The sad fact I know for myself when it comes to heavily armed home defence in an insurrection/destabilised country, is that it really only goes so far. Eventually you will run out of ammo and if you've shot enough of them in the process they'll be very much angrier and eventually find their own guns.

In LA they had marines and army go in, which is what the English probably should have done sooner as a deterrent to anyone else mucking around.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Now combine this with the sense of entitlement that Yoof now have, and instead of working your way up from the bottom, they'll just sit on the dole, in a council flat, flexing weed to pay their mobile phone bills. They're too complacent to work a minimum wage job, and in fairness why should they? It's somewhat a poverty trap.

I know of people who sell skunk to their mates and mates of mates and earn more than I do. It is so dry around here that they can get away with giving pretty weak 8ths out and still have people coming back, spend a grand on weed and you can literally triple it in a couple of weeks, tax free, in cash.

These people are utter dick heads obviously but they are in their late teens/early 20's and have more disposable cash than just about anyone. And literally they don't do any work. Bag the shit up as required, drop it off. As you say, why the fuck would they go work in a supermarket and lose 25% of a minimum wage job doing shitty work 8 hours a day?

How long it will be before someone fucks them over or they get nicked is anyone's guess, perhaps even there is an outside chance it get's legalized and sold via pharmacies or off licences and these guys have no business model anymore.

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Originally posted by Lilith I think the US set the standard for riots after the LA ones in 1992 that went for 6 days and killed 50 odd people if I remember way back when, a lot of the same root causes for them as well. *Coloured minority abused by cops *Large amount of poor as beans young people with no future *Rioters turn on migrant owned businesses *Eventually inertia just flows into looting for no reason

Being a Brit in LA, a lot of people chatting to me about the Riots, likend the london riots to what happened in LA.

The difference is with LA though:

-there was (and still is, albeit somewhat calmed these days) a massive race divide, which the UK does not have (or at least to anywhere near the same degree)
- Cops were filmed beating the shit out of a black guy for a prolonged period, and obviously enjoyed it, regardless of the fact he was on crack or a drug dealer.
- poverty in certain areas was rock bottom, which no social infrastructure to support them (like in the UK).
- As you said, there had been a new generation of migrants who owned businesses while the "natives" saw a divide and decrease in wealth, at least in the poorer areas.

In the UK, there's not these problems, and it wasn't the poor attacking the rich, or one race lashing out at another. It was just opportunism and viral mob mentality.

@LP7 - I know what you mean, I had mates who made a small fortune every week and just wasted it on designer jeans and trainers, or souping up their shit cars. There's no incentive to get a proper job because if you don't work your housing benefit gets paid, you get dole and can still flex the green to live large.

A lot of girls I went to school with literally popped out babies to become a single mum just to get a council flat. We were having education orientation towards the end of school and one girl in my class said to me "I ain't going uni, that's more school and it costs money, so I'm going to have a kid and get a house".

I'm glad they're hammering down on the looters. It fucked people's livelihoods and wrecked their own communities.The police were pussies though. The Army should have been called to regulate that early on.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN A lot of girls I went to school with literally popped out babies to become a single mum just to get a council flat. We were having education orientation towards the end of school and one girl in my class said to me "I ain't going uni, that's more school and it costs money, so I'm going to have a kid and get a house".

Sad

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Originally posted by Zharen Sad

but true. Until they stop rewarding these idiots with free housing, free everything they'll keep on doing it. I read one story the other day of an idiot who had her kid doing provocative modelling at 12, and now at 15 is pregnant. Her mum is overjoyed "because they'll get a bigger council house"

Ok Ian I have a question.

Is "council housing" like the projects over here? Special housing for people on welfare etc?

sorta yeah. Each local council has an allocation that people can apply for etc but there are people who wait ages because they're gazumped by the 'needs' of others, generally girls popping out kids cos they know what they get for it.

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Originally posted by Ian generally girls popping out kids cos they know what they get for it.

unofficially known as Breed For The Dole

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Originally posted by DJ RANN In the UK, there's not these problems, and it wasn't the poor attacking the rich, or one race lashing out at another.

Probably not the same level of desperation due to a lack of social security in the US, but I don't really think the problems are endemic to those areas. When I lived in the UK there are fairly large swathes of deep seated racism akin to the US that haven't been entirely flogged out of the brains of the ignorant, despite 25 or so years of "politically correct" education.
Well meaning as it may be, I think it only encourages the british mentality to behave exactly the opposite of what the government says to amuse themselves

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A lot of girls I went to school with literally popped out babies to become a single mum just to get a council flat. We were having education orientation towards the end of school and one girl in my class said to me "I ain't going uni, that's more school and it costs money, so I'm going to have a kid and get a house".

You'll find this kind of behaviour across the whole economic spectrum, at a private high school I met birds that reckoned they'd snag a bloke for much the same reasons... its just they aimed for a better house + car if they laid the right one.
But no one was sticking a gun to a blokes head to shag some minger out for his money (or create a tax burden on the rest of us) and these mental amoebas dont actually reproduce with binary fission!
Nope, some where along the line there's some deadbeat who couldn't keep his dick in his pants or use a franger.

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Originally posted by Lilith franger.

Haven't heard that word since I was in high school

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Originally posted by Sushipunk Haven't heard that word since I was in high school

Since it hasn't featured in your vocabulary... you've been riding bareback since high school?

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Originally posted by Lilith Since it hasn't featured in your vocabulary... you've been riding bareback since high school?

Hardly Just haven't used the word since then! In most of my travels around the UK, everyone just called it a "johnny". My friends got weirded out when I'd call it that (like, who the fuck is "Johnny"?)

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Originally posted by Sushipunk Hardly Just haven't used the word since then! In most of my travels around the UK, everyone just called it a "johnny". My friends got weirded out when I'd call it that (like, who the fuck is "Johnny"?)

Haha, my mate at some shitty shop sold some kids condoms as a substitute for water bombs. "Johnny Bombs" he called them, and said you only get 3 but they are powerful.

Classic.

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