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Posted by InfiniteSquare on Dec-05-2002 05:55:

lol, that is hilarious


Posted by Boss-Dyk on Dec-05-2002 06:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Euphorica@AUS
Bedrock:
JACKASS


I say the same...


Posted by matt_a on Dec-05-2002 06:11:

quote:
Originally posted by VaNFeCto

WTF GLOBAL UNDERGROUND ARE U FUCKING KIDDING ME?! WHENS THE LAST TIME THESE PEOPLE EVER MADE A GOOD CD, ILL TELL U WHEN DEEP DISH, AND OAKEYS OF COURSE OTHER THAN THAT THIS LABEL IS PURE CRAP.


Tenaglia SUX
STEVE LAWLER SUX
LEE BURRIDGE SUX I MEAN DAMN EVERYTIME I THINK ABOUT U PROG ASS HOLES DISSING EPIC I JUST SIT AND THINK, DO U PEOPLE NOT KNOW WAT U LISTEN TO? I MEAN HOW MUCH SOUL AND EMOTION IS HONESTLY POURED IN TO THOSE SORRY ASS BEATS AND DRONING RIFFS. THE MUSIC IS MADE FOR UP TIGHT ASS WADS WHO ARE AFRAID TO DANCE AND DONT WANNA LOOK STUPID AT CLUBS. FOR GOD SAKES U LISTEN TO BEDROCK THAT RIGHT THERE SUMS IT UP FOR URE MUSIC CREDIBILITY.


Bring it on bitch!


Na man, I used to be like you, hated GU and prog and that"boring" shit. But now I fricken love it! I duno maybe it's time cause I know many people that have moved on to Prog from Trance.
I don't really care what you think of it.

However I also love the epic stuff and just awsome trance, that is what I spin. But come on how much prog have you actually heard?
Have you heard Steve Lawler's Lights Out. That CD is fucking awsome!

One thing I have to agree on I'd rather hear trance in a club than Prog but when just sitting listening to enjoy the music I think I'd rather listen to prog (unless its a set like PvDs!)

But please don't be too close minded. Just remember this cause one day you might like it.


Posted by VaNFeCto on Dec-05-2002 06:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Trancey Ash
Bring it on bitch!


Na man, I used to be like you, hated GU and prog and that"boring" shit. But now I fricken love it! I duno maybe it's time cause I know many people that have moved on to Prog from Trance.
I don't really care what you think of it.

However I also love the epic stuff and just awsome trance, that is what I spin. But come on how much prog have you actually heard?
Have you heard Steve Lawler's Lights Out. That CD is fucking awsome!

One thing I have to agree on I'd rather hear trance in a club than Prog but when just sitting listening to enjoy the music I think I'd rather listen to prog (unless its a set like PvDs!)

But please don't be too close minded. Just remember this cause one day you might like it.


dude never, man ive listend to those cds i speak from my own experience i actually listened to tenaglia and and ive listened to lights out ive listened to GU, THAS how i know which ones suck and which ones dont. I like some prog i like James Holden, I like G& D, i like deep dish, i love charlie may, so im not just someone who disses somehthing with out at least trying it. I would never be close minded like that. Also that quote was only half of wat my original post, i stated in the begining that this wasnt a prog bashing post, but i did have to speak on some of the stuff they were saying is better than PvD. so no hard feelings against prog at all.


Posted by tiesto14 on Dec-05-2002 06:27:

quote:
Originally posted by a-aplz
So true. But say if Tiesto mixed that, he would be 'the worst dj ever and a huge sellout' But since PvD did it its ok.



soooooooo TRUE.......everyone would talk mad shit about Tiesto this and Tieto that.....


Posted by tiesto14 on Dec-05-2002 06:32:

quote:
Originally posted by speedracer_mec
ALSO.....wut a way to end 2002


clash between prog and trance....


HONESTLY i love progressive...but i cant forget trance cuz trance is beautiful and has always been there for me.





um ISN'T Porgressive TRANCE????


why is everyone acting like progressive is NOT trance?...IT IS TRANCE...just a sub-genre of trance...same way epic aka uplifting, tech, or hard are all forms of TRANCE..

So someone please tell e when PROGRESSIVE became it's OWN genre???

because as far as i know it never did...unless HARD,EPIC,TECH,GOA etc etc ALL have now become their OWN genres.

IT IS progessive TRANCE


Posted by tiesto14 on Dec-05-2002 06:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Bedrock
I think StarFag should be removed of his moderator status

he gets far too emotional



no chance f0x is one of the BEST mods we have IMO.


Posted by tiesto14 on Dec-05-2002 06:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper is boring, and yes some trance is boring... Both genres are stuck with their fair share of cookie-cutter producers attempting to relive the glory of past successes.





AGAIN...when did Prog become it's OWN genre?...


Posted by escee on Dec-05-2002 06:39:

Tiesto14, Starfox gets much to emotional banning bedrock for an anti pvd thread? weak.

and

How can you say progressive is a sub genre of trance? It sounds totally different to trance. I think progressive is lumped together with trance because people are afraid of stepping out into a new genre. Just because tiesto has start spinning more progressive stuff, doesnt turn progressive into trance.


Posted by tiesto14 on Dec-05-2002 06:48:

quote:
Originally posted by escee

How can you say progressive is a sub genre of trance? It sounds totally different to trance. I think progressive is lumped together with trance because people are afraid of stepping out into a new genre. Just because tiesto has start spinning more progressive stuff, doesnt turn progressive into trance.



i never once mentioned anything about Tiesto making prog a subgenre of trance...not once...not sure where u pulled that from.

but then if Prog is not a subgenre of trance then neither can Goa/Psy, Acid, Hard, Tech or any of the other subgenres....

For the past 7 years that i have been listening to trance, progressive was always a form of TRANCE......


Posted by arturob on Dec-05-2002 06:58:

quote:
Originally posted by escee
Tiesto14, Starfox gets much to emotional banning bedrock for an anti pvd thread? weak.
.


that was not my reason. If I would have banned him for that, then MANY TAs would`ve been gone also don`t you think? plz think a little bit more before you post. Generalizing is not good.

and btw, if you don`t know what your friend did on the AU forum, check it out, which I know you did since you both are friends ;p


and now,

no more flames or the 5 days suspension will be enforced.



many greetings,

f0x


Posted by Pio on Dec-05-2002 07:01:

this thread should seriously be closed. it's an open invitation for flaming and nothing constructive is being discussed.


Posted by Bedrock on Dec-05-2002 07:22:

Tiesto14:

the 14 stands for you're age I'm guessing coz u need some more schooling.

there's progressive trance and progressive house, both are entirely different genres and have entirely different roots and beginnings.

Prog Trance takes its roots from Trance & Psy Trance, the majority of today's trance is progressive since its using different sounds etc to that of the mid-nineties. Progressive house takes its roots from epic and acid house. Producers such as James Holden & Sasha produce progressive house.

recognise.


Posted by PatMcGroin on Dec-05-2002 07:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Starfox




many greetings,

f0x



HAHAHAHAAHAHAH ARTURO I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!


Posted by trancedfarmer on Dec-05-2002 07:37:

So much hate... oh wellz!

personally i find some people to be overly critical of music... why hate the artist for trying to produce intriguing music... Besides, Paul van Dyk has some really good stuff out there... I just dont understand why someone would post a thread simply aiming to degrade someone and their work--- oh wellz...


Posted by speedracer_mec on Dec-05-2002 08:27:

hehe lets allllll take a deepbreath...


Now lets rethink all this.....we all knew this topic (prog vs. trance) were to explode before years end....but lets discuss this peacefully....


i mean i seen alot of TAs get converted to "prog elitist"

hell i myself am sooo deep into prog right now...but Not letting go of the real trance(quality)....in fact i was in a state of prog..early this fall..but now in winters time im into the trance mood.



BASICALLY its this: If ur dissin trance and u hail progressive..THEN U LACK AN OPENMIND!...u tell people who listen to trance..oh yeah u lack openmindness..ur missin prog..I get all giggly listenin to sasha.etc

I LISTEN TO SASHa...holden...pappa....the whole krew(except digweed)..
and yet i still have the mind to pump up tunes like
Natural Born Grooves - Kickback (TDR Remix).mp3
cosmic gate-truth(fc remix)

im not saying im better than anyone else but please dont come into this thread and take sides and flame without knowing wtf.

btw swamper..im not bashin neither...
dont forget ur roots....


Posted by breakdown on Dec-05-2002 10:44:

lol
commercialism... whoever said that obviously doesn't know what it means.. it sure as hell doesn't mean releasing to one of the least expected places on the world... ONLY


Posted by Philby on Dec-05-2002 11:44:

vanfecto i love your sig?

hey if people want to keep flaming each other and bag music then sure leave the thread open, thats what it was for

i like some progressive, i just like more trance! sometimes i bag it but if i am then its not serious and because the topic came up already in the thread that im bagging it in if that makes sense hehe

and exactly how much of the commercial soundtrack have you heard bedrock? none? ah right then.


Posted by netw3rkd on Dec-05-2002 12:13:


Now, we all have different tastes in electronic music. Epic trance, progressive house (which is #1), progressive trance and so on. So no more flaming!! The end.


Posted by xtr3m on Dec-05-2002 12:38:

Love Poundin' Sensation

P.L.U.R...


Posted by DennisF on Dec-05-2002 13:12:

Re: Paul Van Dyk Sucks Hey

quote:
Originally posted by Bedrock
He is a disgrace to trance.

in all honesty this guy makes absolute shit. I haven't heard a good production from him since 'Words'. How has this weiner become so popular? He's underground trance's answer to Dj Sammy & Scooter.

Did you see that specialised cd of his for Latin America? what a commercial cheeze monger! Who does he think he is? Judge Jules or something? He is an absolute DISGRACE!

/end rant


ok everybody can have his same opinion about pauls tracks he plays, but if somebody say that he is a bad dj, the one has no clue about music cause paul has one of the best dj skills !!!


Posted by rock_roll18 on Dec-05-2002 13:17:

WERD

this argument is to no consequence


Posted by robstar on Dec-05-2002 13:52:

Pvd is an awsome(!) Dj but not one of the top producers.
So I kinda get ur point.
But still he has made just as much IMO as Oakie has for the trance scene!

LaterZ:!


Posted by robstar on Dec-05-2002 13:56:

HappyHappy

quote:
Tenaglia SUX


Now, that was uncalled for!
Saying that is like spitting on Jesus!


Posted by oDrori on Dec-05-2002 13:59:

quote:
Originally posted by InfiniteSquare
i agree there are some that really truly like him and have liked him for a while - but these jews that copy - they are fucking scuzzbuckets


Would you care to elaborate on the 2nd part of your reply?!?!


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