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how can you be apart of an online community like this and have that view point of mp3s. this entire site is based on music that people get off the web. i mean its unTAish. not everyone can get the promo releases of every tune that comes out and clearly with all the kids in these forums...i mean they would have to save up their allowance for a year to buy one batch of records. its not like we are all djs here that play at clubs..then that might be a problem, but still you suck man.

DjMaytag is nothing but a filthy 10 dollar whore...
WHo the fuck he is telling us whats good and whats bad...i am soooo fucking tired of reading this thread,..Maytag do us all a favor and get the fuck out of TA.....we dont need RIAA kiss asses in TA..

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Originally posted by Vesa BTW, who the fuck are you to publically question my morality in front of the whole TA community?

I could have sworn you brought it up first, not me.

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Originally posted by Vesa Wasn't this thread initially meant for dreaming about which tracks would be nice if released? Dreaming isn't wrong. I haven't seen any unreleased track (meaning the musical piece, not the name of the track) posted here, and you may be the only one who ever expected such a thing might happen here.

I've seen several posts talking about, how someone has it a certain track and they say for an individual to PM them. Odd are they are sharing the files.

I also informed someone that I could get them the tracks they were looking for, but they politely declined stating that they didn't want to pay for it, but would rather acquire the track for free.

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Originally posted by Vesa Besides, I'm completely against DJ mixes or mixed compilations as a way of preserving trance heritage. They put the tracks in a context which is not what the producer intended. Imagine if the only copy of a M.I.K.E. production was preserved as part of a DJ Jean set. Would a later scholar or music enthusiast draw the right kind of conclusions?

So DJ Jean's interpretation isn't valid as an art form? It sounds like you're completely disregarding the importance of the DJ to trance history?

AFAIK, producers WANT DJ's to mix their tunes so the become more well known. I've never heard of a producer tell a DJ not to mix his songs in a certain way, and I've never heard a producer cringe at the idea of a well known DJ playing their tune...

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Originally posted by Vesa I really meant Dancegrooves, Allstars and Rockhouse, which act as shops with direct links to distributors.

Um, and my shop isn't? That's what record stores do, they buy from distributors or in some cases the labels directly. What's the difference between my shop and Dancegrooves?

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Originally posted by Vesa So you are not against mp3 sharing if there's a charge? If someone buys a little-known vinyl, rips it, and distributes it to say five persons, doesn't the cost of vinyl pay for subscription?

I would have no problem if there was a charge, if the system was set up to distribute the money back to the artists, just like as if someone was buying a CD or record at a store.

I'm also not against non-commercial liveset sharing either, fee or not. I don't understannd how the context DJ's put the music can be overlooked since it's almost impossible to find any tunes that aren't mixed. When was the last time you went to a club and heard a DJ play individual songs without mixing? (Scott Bond's show in Colorodo doesn't count...) Since trance is largely BASED upon the context that the DJ puts different songs into, you alomst would think it'd be MORE important to find songs that were mixed!

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Originally posted by Vesa I've worked at the university, so I act based on reason, not based on justifications. You now have an opportunity to convince me by numerical facts and good arguments that the losses arising from a historical trance mp3 archive outweigh the gains.

If it was a pay-for-use system or based on a subscription (both at a reasonable fee) where the money would go back to the artists and labels, then I'd have absolutley ZERO problem with a trance archive.

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Originally posted by uwmadtrance This is getting fucking ridiculous. Comparing stealing cars and downloading mp3s? FFS.

It takes a drastic analogy to get it thru some ppl's heads that what they're doing is just as illegal.

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Originally posted by uwmadtrance So I spend my hard-earned money on school and rent and food. Apparently I should not be afforded the right to listen to trance music (or any music for that matter) because I cannot afford to support the artists.

So you you resort to stealing when you can't afford other things in life?

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Originally posted by uwmadtrance I can only afford Ramen and Mac N' Cheese, and sometimes when I'm lucky, I can eat an extra value meal at McDonalds or order a pizza. When I can afford it, I make trips to see DJs throughout the midwest. My priorities are obviously quite out of line. I'm a criminal.

Yup, and there's a cell for ya at the Dane County Jail! LOL

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Originally posted by DJMaytag Well, it sounds like you're either exaggerating or getting screwed, one of the two. Most of the Trancemaster comps only cost me $19.99+tax at my local shop (the one I now work at.)

Well, give me more info about your record store . Let me know the prices for Gatecrasher Wet , and Ibiza Euhporia. Thats a pretty cheap priced for an import, but Im guessing you are selling it USED ! ?

And well, theres no point on keeping on discussing this issue with you, you got your opinion, and I got my opinion. mp3 is not at all illegal, if it was, then there shouldnt be any softwares making this posible, including all the biggest corps. ( windows, real, so on .. ) .
But whatever, maybe your record store is in lack of demand, which could be the possible response for you to come up with all this, and you probably make your living selling records, and playing them. But, its only you .. but, I respect your opinion. One thing, you wont change nobodys way of thinking.

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Originally posted by DJMaytag Well, it sounds like you're either exaggerating or getting screwed, one of the two. Most of the Trancemaster comps only cost me $19.99+tax at my local shop (the one I now work at.)

Well, give me more info about your record store . Let me know the prices for Gatecrasher Wet , and Ibiza Euhporia. Thats a pretty cheap priced for an import, but Im guessing you are selling it USED ! ?

And well, theres no point on keeping on discussing this issue with you, you got your opinion, and I got my opinion. mp3 is not at all illegal, if it was, then there shouldnt be any softwares making this posible, including all the biggest corps. ( windows, real, so on .. ) .
But whatever, maybe your record store is in lack of demand, which could be the possible response for you to come up with all this, and you probably make your living selling records, and playing them. But, its only you .. but, I respect your opinion. One thing, you wont change nobodys way of thinking.

lynsey moore - capture me (john 00 fleming mix) ----> fuckin amazing vocal remix that appeared on oakey essential mix in '99 in january

two trax i want

i really really want:

kosheen - catch (ferry corsten remix)
n trance - set u free (flip n fill remix)

please please PM me if you have them!

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Originally posted by DJMaytag So you you resort to stealing when you can't afford other things in life?

Yes, I steal everything that I can't afford.

Your statements reflect the sentiments that anybody who cannot afford to purchase a vinyl or CD of a particular artist should be denied the right to listen to that artist. That's a wonderful philosophy if you want an already small trance community to dwindle to even smaller numbers. But I suppose maybe that's what you want, only the elitists with the income to purchase all of their music should be allowed in the trance scene.

Back on topic... (and don't flame me - I'm utterly impervious to that rubbish):

I'm sure there are others who've posted here, but I'm totally GAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGING for a full rip of Hydra - Affinity.

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Originally posted by DJMaytag It takes a drastic analogy to get it thru some ppl's heads that what they're doing is just as illegal.

no there's a difference, and you know it, and making an analogy of that type is fucking retarded. It may be illegal, but your not gonna get jail time for it (well not anywhere but the US ). Mp3's are fucking great, they give people the ability to listen to what they think is good, not what the record companies tell them is good. I bet you sympathised with Britney Spears when she did that advert to say she was getting ripped off by people downloading her music. Face it your not gonna get any sympathy here, now you've had your perks, cock off
*shares some Mp3's*

Considering the price of trance CD's here in Canada and the fact that I'm not gonna sell my soul or my computer just to get some (most good imports go from 40 bucks all the way up to 90 bucks, when normal cds go for around 20 dollars or less here,usually around 17,18) then yes i will keep downloading mp3s and not you or anyone can say anything to make me do otherwise.

you know what fuck maytag...

somemore tunes that i want are (see my sig) and also this beauty...

Marillion - Face 1004 (Mark Mitchell Mix)

why is marillion shit so hard to find??? AAARRRHHHHH!!!!

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Originally posted by LiquidX Well, give me more info about your record store . Let me know the prices for Gatecrasher Wet , and Ibiza Euhporia. Thats a pretty cheap priced for an import, but Im guessing you are selling it USED ! ?

Nope, they're new. I stil have the price tag on Trancemaster 26, and it was $21.99. I believe the other ones I got in the series were right in that range.

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Originally posted by LiquidX But whatever, maybe your record store is in lack of demand, which could be the possible response for you to come up with all this, and you probably make your living selling records, and playing them. But, its only you .. but, I respect your opinion. One thing, you wont change nobodys way of thinking.

I don't think it's out of line for me to vent some frustration becuase I'm involved in a business that's hurt by the sharing of mp3 rips... and yes, we don't hardly sell ANY CD's anymore, after having quite a decent selection a few years ago. I think we've had like 3 people come in looking for CD's in the past year, and none asking for any CD in particular (why would they ask, if they knew what they wanted, they could just go online and get it?)

the public suddenly realized that the music industry was producing crappy cd's and they realized that cd companies had ripped them off for yrs (cd price fixing....settled the lawsuit with the DOJ). They don't make cd's like they used to..like I bought gu013 this morning off the net. Global Underground was about quality not quantity...I wish deejays would listen to that theory when they made compilations because their are so many shitty ones.

Well at least we know that we won't be broke, living in our parents basement for our entire lives, spending all our money on CD's because we feel that spreading MP3's is wrong

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Originally posted by DJMaytag I don't think it's out of line for me to vent some frustration becuase I'm involved in a business that's hurt by the sharing of mp3 rips... and yes, we don't hardly sell ANY CD's anymore, after having quite a decent selection a few years ago. I think we've had like 3 people come in looking for CD's in the past year, and none asking for any CD in particular (why would they ask, if they knew what they wanted, they could just go online and get it?)

maybe you dish out shit CD's, the Gatecrasher series sell a lot, both in the UK and the States, because they're better than anything else. Mp3's cut down the amount of crap an artist can get away with releasing, thats why they are good, you want to make people buy your CD, release something worth buying, end of.

so true and it also forces the dj that mixes the series to actually put some effort into it or he/she knows that they won't be mixing that series again.

Don't blame poor sales on MP3's cause ur store is shit. And if MP3's are such a problem then why are music stores still open?

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Originally posted by Vesa it's not possible to have a test run of the most vinyls because almost no vinyl shops have the majority of tracks. And the vinyls are sold out so quickly that if one travels to Germany or Holland next summer, the shops don't have many of the vinyls that came out in the fall of 2002.

Why must you travel there to buy them? Why not just order them online?

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Originally posted by Vesa I didn't say that. But I hope that all tracks are remembered primarily as individual pieces of art, and vinyl rips of excellent quality are good approximations. Still, I hope that live sets of even Eurodance DJs are preserved. They have their own value as well.

How can they be remebered as individual pieces of art when they're ALMOST NEVER PRESENTED AS SUCH?

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Originally posted by Vesa What I initially meant was that stores like Dancegrooves, Allstars and Rockhouse list ALL vinyls of Dutch trance labels. That's the difference. Trying to acquire back order vinyls there gives an excellent view of what vinyls are realistically available, and what would be best to download to save everyone's time and efforts (even Dancegrooves has some back orders, those without the Buy button).

No, they don't, they only list what they've carried or currently carry. So if I posted every single track that was currently available from my distributors, then I would have a more complete selection than 90% of the store and online shops! Not every store like Dancegrooves has things in stock, and doesn't always re-order items that are still available from their distributors.

you done complaining and going on and on?

I think everyone realizes yer pt of view but STOP IT...it's tired and pointless

DJ Maytag is just an uneducated guy so lets just leave him and his opinions alone.

he just goes on and on about it, we got the point. If he really wants to go on and on.....start another thread.

At the moment it would have to be Solar Stone - Solarcoaster (Midway mix)

Vesa, another quality post. I've come to expect nothing less

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