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Originally posted by fayraree Italy just got pwned.

+1

malek is right. Italy should have been knocked out in the round of 16, were it not for that dive.


but fahad... is that you with the horn in this video?
i knew u were supporting italy all along!

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Originally posted by m2j but fahad... is that you with the horn in this video?

Holy shit, that's my long lost brother, Fahabio!!!!! MINCHIA, BRO!!!

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Originally posted by malek Italy played Australia (which they cheated their way thru with a rare delicacy called diving), Ukraine (big big powerhouse) and with their toughest game was against Germany (Germany controlling the game while italy wasting time and cutting the tempo with fake injuries and dives), nonetheless a victory deserved for the Azzuri. France kicked Spain, Portugal and lets not forget the champions and favorites Brazil with clear and decisive victories. And on the finals, what do we witness, France owning Italy, completely, not even close. And the decisive actions come at the PKs, where the "best goalie" named Buffon, not a single time jumped in the right direction to try and stop the ball. Total fluke world cup win for Italy. If France won in this total fluke fashion, it would have been somehow deserved because they kicked out 3 major teams in Spain, Portugal and the big favorites Brazil. But Italy's win is simply just a win, and thats why we only hear about Zidane and the disgrace called Materazzi and not Italy's celebration and win which I might be affraid only the Italians are following and giving them any importance (while trying to forget the major match fixing and scandals that are currently happening there). I just hope you itlians come back down on earth and wake up a bit...

LOL, FUCKING EH!

Malek laid that shit out proppa! HELLzYeah

LOL

fidel castro vs. Zizou

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Originally posted by malek Italy played Australia (which they cheated their way thru with a rare delicacy called diving), Ukraine (big big powerhouse) and with their toughest game was against Germany (Germany controlling the game while italy wasting time and cutting the tempo with fake injuries and dives), nonetheless a victory deserved for the Azzuri. France kicked Spain, Portugal and lets not forget the champions and favorites Brazil with clear and decisive victories. And on the finals, what do we witness, France owning Italy, completely, not even close. And the decisive actions come at the PKs, where the "best goalie" named Buffon, not a single time jumped in the right direction to try and stop the ball. Total fluke world cup win for Italy. If France won in this total fluke fashion, it would have been somehow deserved because they kicked out 3 major teams in Spain, Portugal and the big favorites Brazil. But Italy's win is simply just a win, and thats why we only hear about Zidane and the disgrace called Materazzi and not Italy's celebration and win which I might be affraid only the Italians are following and giving them any importance (while trying to forget the major match fixing and scandals that are currently happening there). I just hope you itlians come back down on earth and wake up a bit...

Italy played Australia (which they cheated their way thru with a rare delicacy called diving)
- incorrect, Grosso made a forward run, passed 3 Aussies, had a clean break and only a shot on goal less than 10 feet from goal and he was tripped IN THE BOX.

- not even going to comment on the Ukraine game, as it was Shevchenko and the Ukrainian coach who commented on the ultimate strength of the Italian team

(Germany controlling the game while italy wasting time and cutting the tempo with fake injuries and dives), nonetheless a victory deserved for the Azzuri.

- It is well understood that the Italians held teh balance of control in teh germany game, Italy had far better chances and Lehman was beat twice in the final minutes only to be saved by his most effective defender, the post.


France kicked Spain, Portugal and lets not forget the champions and favorites Brazil with clear and decisive victories.
- this one is an especially poor example.... Italy beats France, France barely beats Portugal, Germany destroys Portugal, Italy beats Germany - think of the food chain here....

And on the finals, what do we witness, France owning Italy, completely, not even close. And the decisive actions come at the PKs, where the "best goalie" named Buffon, not a single time jumped in the right direction to try and stop the ball. Total fluke world cup win for Italy.
- I agree the second half was controlled, dominated if you will by the French. When you say owned do you take into consideration that France was handed a poorly called penalty kick, an esspecially powerful call which could have ended Italy's chances....and when they scored really what does France have to prove...all of a sudden the owness is on Italy to score in regulation time to force a tie. A feat they did....how does that not earn a place in your explanation of a world cup final that we all watched. Not to mention a second header goal that was disallowed, was ofside but only marginally - thus proving that Italy was still on the offensive.
As for Buffon, too bad you are too clouded by your hate for Italy, Buffon is a talent, one which kept Italy's chances for victory alive when he made a very impressive stop in a game almost void of his presence....MOst fans of Buffon were likely shocked by his poor PK skills, however again why is teh burden of proof on the Italian to be better when Barthez was equally as unimpressive.


Who exactly determined Brazil to be teh favourites, their overly offensive soccer is easily figured out, defensive solid man to man marking beats that bRazil style...Brazil was only a favourite to brazialians and Nike ad execs. They were dull, inimpressive and ultimatley no match for a team who barely squeeked by the first round; the French.

Match fixing and scandals....what exactly does that have to do with the world cup, if you are sugessting that Italy fixed this game, say it, leaving that statement to innuendo is tactless and petty. If you are not they why point it out, either way skill prevailed.

Of the people below, there were a large amount who were not Italian, and wanted to enjoy the celebration of the end of the world cup which favoured Italy. Too bad you wish to lay a Black mark upon this event, this victory means something to alot of people. Your armchair attempts to diffuse that excitement is seen as desparate especially with your love for the German team...they lost to the World Cup winners that should be something to hold higher than what you are doing to destroy the win....for the record I beleive 100% that German, like Italy would have beaten France...France had a good game in the final, but they were not meant to win.

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Originally posted by 7-4-7 Italy played Australia (which they cheated their way thru with a rare delicacy called diving) - incorrect, Grosso made a forward run, passed 3 Aussies, had a clean break and only a shot on goal less than 10 feet from goal and he was tripped IN THE BOX.

10 feet or not, the goalie and the defender were right there and could (and prob. would) have easily blocked his attempt at a goal.

the matter of the fact is the Aussie player should not have been in the way unless he was able to get a cleaner slide tackle, but when Grosso saw his chances at a goal were slim he seemed to CHOOSE to trip and take advantage of the situation. Technically, you can consider it a foul... but when a player does something like that I consider it a dive.

And what bothers me most is the fact that a soon as he hears the whistle, him and his team mates begin to celebrate and the italian players crouch down to congradulate him on his performance.

malek is bitter........

OMFG TRANCE that's the funniest shit ever I can't stop laughing!!!!

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Originally posted by TheNeonAlien malek is bitter........

i'm bitter that the finals of the biggest world tournament ended with a scandal and the victory of a team who just squeezed in because they're better at cinema than football

Pfft, Malek, the French penalty goal resulted because of a dive. So STFU.

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Originally posted by m2j 10 feet or not, the goalie and the defender were right there and could (and prob. would) have easily blocked his attempt at a goal. the matter of the fact is the Aussie player should not have been in the way unless he was able to get a cleaner slide tackle, but when Grosso saw his chances at a goal were slim he seemed to CHOOSE to trip and take advantage of the situation. Technically, you can consider it a foul... but when a player does something like that I consider it a dive. And what bothers me most is the fact that a soon as he hears the whistle, him and his team mates begin to celebrate and the italian players crouch down to congradulate him on his performance.

I saw Grosso's chances as much better than you describe them, and after having watched him score now twice since that game I am sure we can agree, he is a threat from 10 feet away.

I dunno if you played soccer, BUT, when your team is in the 'desparate" minutes of a game that determines whether you go on in a tournament and your team gets a penalty kick....YOU ARE VERY HAPPY, and you don't hide it (unless you are teh designated PK taker, and you are scared and nervous) but on teh whole you are very happy. OF course they would congratulate his performance, he is a defender who managed to run the entire length of teh field, with the ball, get around three guys, get fouled, get a penalty kick....and then WIN THE GAME.

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Originally posted by malek i'm bitter that the finals of the biggest world tournament ended with a scandal and the victory of a team who just squeezed in because they're better at cinema than football

AT least you can admit your bitterness, most won't. Squeezed maybe, but who, if they won, would not have been considered "squeezed"?

The only team who comfortably handled all of their games was Germany, and they lost in a great game. France, Italy, England, SPain, POtugal, BRazil - all had their moments, but weren't always dominating.


Cinema - tiring really everytime I hear this, Portugal and Germany by far more obvious, more pathetic, in their diving than any other team. SInce we are on the topic - Ballack, BRUTAL, seems like all he did was try to get calls....

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Originally posted by 7-4-7 Cinema - tiring really everytime I hear this, Portugal and Germany by far more obvious, more pathetic, in their diving than any other team. SInce we are on the topic - Ballack, BRUTAL, seems like all he did was try to get calls....

Did you know that every italian soccer player took diving lessons before joining their national team

Shots on Target: Italy 1 - France 5
Shots off target : Italy 2 - France 8

in total 3 shots by Italy and 13 by France I'd say Italy got lucky
plus no game is a good game that goes into Penalty Shots

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Originally posted by djeso Did you know that every italian soccer player took diving lessons before joining their national team Shots on Target: Italy 1 - France 5 Shots off target : Italy 2 - France 8 in total 3 shots by Italy and 13 by France I'd say Italy got lucky plus no game is a good game that goes into Penalty Shots

A truly solid addition to this conversation!...weak

3 shots, 2 goals one taken away, as a ratio that is....ITALY WON!.

Clearly FIFA is comfortable with the idea that penalties ARE the way to end a game of two strong teams...

you are kind of all over the place with that one dude, sorry...in the end Italy wins.

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur Pfft, Malek, the French penalty goal resulted because of a dive. So STFU.

wrong.

the only thing the french did throughout the whole tournament that could be considered a dive (although it still wouldve been a call, just not a yellow card) would be that free kick they got against spain when henry was nudged in the chest and held his face.

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Originally posted by RapidFire wrong. the only thing the french did throughout the whole tournament that could be considered a dive (although it still wouldve been a call, just not a yellow card) would be that free kick they got against spain when henry was nudged in the chest and held his face.

...and then there was that gimme in the finals that was a dive that resulted in a PK/goal...but other than that I would actually agree that the French team plays quite clean...except Zidane of course.

Latest Amendment of the FIFA Disciplinary Code May Result to Italy to Give Up World Cup Title



NewswireToday - /newswire/ - Boston, MA, United States, 07/13/2006 - On last 28 March 2006, an Amendment to article 55 of the FIFA Disciplinary added few lines about discrimination. If confirmed of any discrimination, Azzurri player, Marco Materazzi could face serious sanctions. Italy then may be deducted 3 points.



[NewswireTODAY FirstCall] - On last 28 March 2006, an Amendment to article 55 of the FIFA Disciplinary added few lines about discrimination.

The following could cause Italy to loose the title.

Part IV: If any player, association or club official or spectator perpetrates any kind of discriminatory or contemptuous act as described by par. 1 and/or 2 of this article, THREE points will automatically be deducted from the team concerned.

Amendment to article 55 of the FIFA Disciplinary Code
Non discrimination

Part. I:
Anyone who publicly disparages, discriminates against or denigrates someone in a defamator manner on account of race, colour, language, religion or ethnic origin, or perpetrates any other discriminatory and/or contemptuous act, will be subject to match suspension for at least five matches at every level. Furthermore, a stadium ban and a fine of at least CHF 20,000 will be imposed on the perpetrator. If the perpetrator is an official, the fine will be at least CHF 30,000.

Part. II:
If spectators display banners bearing discriminatory slogans, or are guilty of any other discriminatory and/or contemptuous behaviour at a match, the appropriate body will impose a sanction of at least CHF 30,000 on the association or club that the spectators concerned support and force it to play its next official match without spectators. If the spectators cannot be identified as supporters of one or the other association or club, the host association or club will be sanctioned accordingly.

Part. III:
Any spectator who is guilty of any of the offences specified under par. 1 and/or 2 of this article will be banned from entering any stadium for at least two years.

Part. IV:
If any player, association or club official or spectator perpetrates any kind of discriminatory or contemptuous act as described by par. 1 and/or 2 of this article, three
points will automatically be deducted from the team concerned, if identifiable, after the first offence. In the case of a second offence, six points will automatically be deducted, and for a further offence, the team will be relegated. In the case of matches without points, the team concerned, if identifiable, will be disqualified.

Part. V:
The confederations and associations are required to incorporate the provisions of this article in their statutes and to enforce the sanctions stipulated. If any association infringes this article, it will be excluded from international football for two years. Source: FIFA

Zidane is better known for his sportsmanship and dancer-like style with the ball. He is a national hero for the French and a symbol of a young, multicultural France. Born to Algerian immigrants, Zidane grew up playing on concrete in an impoverished neighborhood of Marseille, South of France.

"My act is not forgivable," Zidane said. "But they must also punish the true guilty party, and the guilty party is the one who provokes."

Materazzi has acknowledged he insulted Zidane, without giving specifics. At nearly the same moment Zidane was live on French TV, excerpts from an interview that Materazzi gave were posted on an Italian paper's Website.

i know it'll never happen, but if in some fucked up way it does... hhhahahahaha i would laugh for a month.

people would spontaneously parade with their own flags in the streets!!! hahahahaha

i honestly wish this happens

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Originally posted by 7-4-7 ...and then there was that gimme in the finals that was a dive that resulted in a PK/goal...but other than that I would actually agree that the French team plays quite clean...except Zidane of course.

there was contact there you cant deny that. but even if it wasnt a penalty there was a DEFINITE penalty in the second half on the same player that wasnt called.

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Originally posted by malek i know it'll never happen, but if in some fucked up way it does... hhhahahahaha i would laugh for a month. people would spontaneously parade with their own flags in the streets!!! hahahahaha

that would be so fucked up (and funny) but who would the cup go to?

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Originally posted by RapidFire that would be so fucked up (and funny) but who would the cup go to?

a rematch of the finals between France and Germany

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