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I'd be surprised if Ford DIDN'T rename Jag, Ford is much more of a global brand than Jaguar.
I think Da Matta is on his way back to CART or IRL
Apparently there is a new team that may enter for 2005, Max Mosley was saying that during press conferences earlier in the year when he was talking cost containment.
I'd like to see Nick Heidfeld in a better team, I think he is probably the most under rated driver in the field (it was Fisi until he got signed to Renault). He should compete against DC for the seats at BAR and Jaguar/Ford, he has age on his side.
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Back on topic of Jacques Villeneuve. I've got to say that it would be in BAR's and JV's best interest if they rejoined. JV is an aggressive driver and he needs an aggressive and reliable car in order to rival Ferrari, and with advancements made by BAR this season, it would've been really fun to watch the 2004 with JV/JB duo. The only thing that would prevent such a mirracle is of course Dave Richards who has done absolutely nothing positive for BAR during his tenure. He has pushed JV away, and now JB as well!! It's time Dave Richards had been sacked! The ONLY positive thing he had done was to bring in Geoff Willis for the 2004 season and Geoff is the only reason why such an advancement had been done on the 006 BAR car. The 005 version was a disaster prior to Geoff's coming to BAR.
DAVE RICHARDS HAS GO TO GO! BRING BACK VILLENEUVE!!!
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*phew*

GO BAR GO!!!!
Not sure if posted already:
Jaguar confirms they are leaving Formula One at end of season.
"Jaguar to Leave Formula 1 Racing" from Formula1.com
"Jaguar's presence in Formula One has been a valuable marketing and brand awareness platform particularly outside our main markets of the US and the UK,� said Joe Greenwell, chairman of Jaguar Cars. �However it was our collective view that it is time for Jaguar Cars to focus 100% on our core business.
�After a thorough review over many months Ford Motor Company has decided it can no longer make a compelling business case for any of its brands to compete in Formula One.
�Having reached this decision our focus has turned to securing the best future for our Formula One businesses and our employees in these businesses going forward. We are therefore putting our Formula One businesses up for sale.�
Ford Vice-President Richard Parry-Jones, the man in charge of Jaguar�s Formula One operations, told news agency Reuters that a number of potential buyers had already expressed interest.
Jaguar came into the sport in 2000 after taking over the Stewart team. Since then they have seen only limited success and currently lie seventh in the 2004 constructors� championship standings.
The sale of Cosworth could also have a major impact on the Minardi and Jordan teams, both of whom are powered by the company�s engines. Minardi recently announced a deal to continue use of their V10s for the 2005 season.
Interesting, I must admit I am surprised, I thought Ford would stay in, at most renaming the team to Ford.
bleh, that means there is yet another 2 cars less, how much is the pack now? 20? 18? it's becoming too few..
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| Originally posted by paranoik0 bleh, that means there is yet another 2 cars less, how much is the pack now? 20? 18? it's becoming too few.. |
there is a new team coming to F1 next season, though it hasn't yet been announced which...
anyways, all focus no is on Shanghai...
i say again
GO BAR GO!!!!!!
I heard some speculations that Lotus will re-enter F1
Speculation is at the moment Jaguar will be replaced by Arden Motorsport (a Formula 3 or 3000 team, I can't remember which) or some other group (who I can't believe I have forgotten, someone fairly large).
Rumour also has it if JB is released from BAR, Coulthard has the seat, deal done apparently. If JB is not released, who knows?
Bugger, I can't believe I forgot who the new team may be, any Aussies who saw RPM today can you help me out?
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| Originally posted by Timothy I heard some speculations that Lotus will re-enter F1 |
looks like Bernie wants to have the big teams running three cars 
GO BAR? GO RENAULT!!!
Also I havent gotten the full story on this is Trulli done for Renault now and is Jaques going to race for them these finale 3 races?? Sort of how Sato did for BAR last year I think?
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| Originally posted by Trance Nutter Speculation is at the moment Jaguar will be replaced by Arden Motorsport (a Formula 3 or 3000 team, I can't remember which) or some other group (who I can't believe I have forgotten, someone fairly large). Rumour also has it if JB is released from BAR, Coulthard has the seat, deal done apparently. If JB is not released, who knows? |
Go Jacques GO!
Villeneuve y va tout gagner
Shanghai GP - Final Qualifying Results taken from F1-live.com
1. 2 BARRICHELLO Ferrari B 1'34"012 208.735 Km/h 3
2. 6 RAIKKONEN McLaren Mercedes M 1'34"178 + 0'00"166 3
3. 9 BUTTON BAR Honda M 1'34"295 + 0'00"283 3
4. 12 MASSA Sauber Petronas B 1'34"759 + 0'00"747 3
5. 4 R.SCHUMACHER Williams BMW M 1'34"891 + 0'00"879 3
6. 8 ALONSO Renault M 1'34"917 + 0'00"905 3
7. 11 FISICHELLA Sauber Petronas B 1'34"951 + 0'00"939 3
8. 17 PANIS Toyota M 1'34"975 + 0'00"963 3
9. 10 SATO BAR Honda M 1'34"993 + 0'00"981 3
10. 5 COULTHARD McLaren Mercedes M 1'35"029 + 0'01"017 3
11. 3 MONTOYA Williams BMW M 1'35"245 + 0'01"233 3
12. 14 WEBBER Jaguar Cosworth M 1'35"286 + 0'01"274 3
13. 7 VILLENEUVE Renault M 1'35"384 + 0'01"372 3
14. 16 ZONTA Toyota M 1'35"410 + 0'01"398 3
15. 18 HEIDFELD Jordan Ford B 1'36"507 + 0'02"495 3
16. 15 KLIEN Jaguar Cosworth M 1'36"535 + 0'02"523 3
17. 19 GLOCK Jordan Ford B 1'37"140 + 0'03"128 3
18. 21 BAUMGARTNER Minardi Cosworth B 1'40"240 + 0'06"228 3
19. 1 M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari B 1'52"100 + 0'18"088 2
20. 20 BRUNI Minardi Cosworth B 1'53"500 + 0'19"488 2
Very interesting grid, MS 19th due to a spin on qualifying lap. This gives a good chance to Button and Raikonnen for 1st place.
interesting grid 
weird circuit btw, that first bend is crazy 
I really like the look of the track actually. It seems to be a return to the flowing tracks that used to exist rather than the stop-go tracks we are used to today.
Interesting race so far. Too bad Schumi went backwards, but I'm sure he will end up in the top 8. Rubens is doing a great job 
Edit: Schumi has a flat tire. Must be his unluckiest weekend ever
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| Originally posted by Trance Nutter I really like the look of the track actually. It seems to be a return to the flowing tracks that used to exist rather than the stop-go tracks we are used to today. |
I think the fact that each corner sequence went from a left hand turn to a right hand turn (or vica versa) made for some really intresting racing, shame the grip on the tramac was so good, aperently after a year or two the tarmac grip should reduce alot so making it slower for the cards incorners (well thats what ITV said (UK TV))
Yeah, the first/middle section of the track had some really good flow, with corners that changed radius and then changes of directions etc, great track. Part of me wishes that the hairpin at the end of the loooooooooooooooooooong straight was tighter though, make it a real 180 turn, maybe narrow down the exit a bit too.
The Australian V8 Supercar championship is going to China to race next year, its gonna be great racing with them (a super competitive series) using that great track.
The race Sunday was pretty good, good battles right through the field, plenty of drama (the bingles at that hairpin). Gotta feel sorry for Christian Klien having to retire while MSC (i think) continued on no probs. Not a bad effort by Villeneuve considering his lack of race time in the past 12 months, but really he probably should have gone a bit better.
Honda is gonna supply BAR with a "Suzuka Special" package (a motor with more revs and a new aero-package), in a bid to score first place on home turf in Japan!!

GO BAR!!!!!!!!
Huge news here:
Jarno Trulli to drive for Toyota in Japan and Brazil.
He will race with Panis in Japan, but for Brazil Panis will step aside, allowing Zonta to race in his home GP. Ryan Briscoe will be third driver for both events.
Its thought giving Trulli the drive will help Toyota jump in front of Jaguar in the constructors championship.
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And if you thought that was big news
THIS IS FARKING HUGE NEWS!!!
Britain is expected to NOT host a Formula 1 GP possibly starting next year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Some sources say they can't afford the fees demanded by FOM, just heard it on our sports news show, they had a snippet with Jackie Stewart saying (paraphrasing) "you can't blame us cos we don't own the license, and we aren't the promotors".
Other sources say that the state of the track and facilities are not up to scratch and is why its being dropped. Bernie has reportedly said that it is a country fair masquerading as an international event. Stirling Moss (paraphrased) - "this would be a big shame for motorsport not only in Britain but worldwide"
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| Originally posted by Trance Nutter Huge news here: Jarno Trulli to drive for Toyota in Japan and Brazil. He will race with Panis in Japan, but for Brazil Panis will step aside, allowing Zonta to race in his home GP. Ryan Briscoe will be third driver for both events. Its thought giving Trulli the drive will help Toyota jump in front of Jaguar in the constructors championship. |
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