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Posted by pvd420 on Oct-17-2004 18:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Mike Vicious
yankees whoopin ass...as usual, it'd be nice to have another team win tho


it would. every year its the same story. yankees spending butt loads of money to get anyone they want and not worrying about having to make the playoffs or get to the world series pretty much. in my eyes this looks more like a buisness and less like a sport. i am sure yankee fans will disagree but for the rest of us that like the game of baseball and teams other than the yankees, this just gets annoying year after year.

at this point i dont expect much out of the mets every year since their management is such a mess, but it would be nice to see a league where the difference between the teams that spend the most money and those that dont isnt over a hundred million dollars. i mean c'mon, you could pay pretty much an entire team of players with that. sigh...if there only was a salary cap. and yes i know that boston spent a lot of money this past year too. i am not agreeing with what they did either.

someone made a point about fox being very anti yankees a few days ago. i think that it is pretty much everyone outside of this huge yankee fan base that is sick and tired of this dynasty and is ready for this to come to an end. when this will happen i have no idea. maybe when stienbrenner relinquishes control of the team or something. what i wouldnt give for the 80's to be back again where yankee fans would appreciate just making the playoffs and not expect it every year.

as for this series, boston has been flat out dominated in just about every aspect of the game. curse or whatever, something has to change and i am glad that i dont live up in new england. god this must be depressing for them.


Posted by AY STAR on Oct-17-2004 19:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Shamez214
First of all, everyone knows and should be able to admit that the Red Sox are not this bad. We all know that. But they have been playing shitty and the Yankees have been playing good and that's why the results have been so lopsided.

But the main reason I am replying is for the Manny Ramirez bad baserunning comment. If you're talking about trying to go from 1st to 3rd in the first inning off of Ortiz' hit... I think that was the best baserunning I've seen all series from either team. The Sox haven't been scoring runs all series, they have to try and make things happen in that case. And what was he out by? An inch? He was so close to making it. If he had been safe, it would've been hailed as 'great baserunning' by the announcers, but because he was out, it was bad baserunning.


ok i understand they were tryin to make somthin out and even if he was safe it was still dumb as soon as manny rounded second sheffield had the ball and manny is no track star he should have realized that the tieing run is commin to the plate
if he would have been safe at 3rd or was on second if the next hitter got a base hit he was gonna score either way
theres no way ortiz was gonna score from 1st on a base hit hes slowwer then manny


Posted by trunks1022 on Oct-17-2004 21:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Shamez214
First of all, everyone knows and should be able to admit that the Red Sox are not this bad. We all know that. But they have been playing shitty and the Yankees have been playing good and that's why the results have been so lopsided.

But the main reason I am replying is for the Manny Ramirez bad baserunning comment. If you're talking about trying to go from 1st to 3rd in the first inning off of Ortiz' hit... I think that was the best baserunning I've seen all series from either team. The Sox haven't been scoring runs all series, they have to try and make things happen in that case. And what was he out by? An inch? He was so close to making it. If he had been safe, it would've been hailed as 'great baserunning' by the announcers, but because he was out, it was bad baserunning.


with two outs, down 3 runs? no i don't think u go for third on that one regardless. a hit from the next batter SHOULD have scored manny easily (and i never knew manny had wheels, seems he's got a rocket pack on this series). yeah the announcers, we've already established are dumb shit, and i don't pay attention to them much anyway. you never ever make the third out at third base. i think baseball players are taught that at an early age. give sheffield credit for coming up firing in right field. maybe i should watch the game by muting fox, and listening to jon miller/joe morgan on espn radio


Posted by Member of X on Oct-18-2004 00:01:

quote:
Originally posted by pvd420

someone made a point about fox being very anti yankees a few days ago. i think that it is pretty much everyone outside of this huge yankee fan base that is sick and tired of this dynasty and is ready for this to come to an end.


It's hard for me to say since I've been a Yankee fan since I was 8 (1984) and now expect the World Series every year. I remember in 1996 and how great that win was, easily the best of them all since they weren't expecting it then.

But I know the other side with the Chicago Bulls, Dallas Cowboys, and even the Pats now. I hated the Bulls so freaking much and would root for everybody against them. I still respected them but hated them. The Yankees though is different with the huge salary difference. I have no argument for that because it's true. Except that money alone doesn't buy championships - Marlins, Angels, Diamondbacks. It just covers up a lot of mistakes. Jose Contreres blows and you spent 32 million... who cares.. just wait for the next guy and try again.

It would be nice if the Yankees had more homegrown talent like they did back in 96'.

The only hope you have is that the Yankees farm system remains shitty and they can't go get Randy Johnson like they couldn't this year and it eventually catches up to them. I don't think a bunch of free agents is gonna work all the time. Take out Jeter, Bernie, Posada, Rivera and .... it wouldn't add up I think.

Still for this series, the Red Sox have no excuse for their extremely horrible pitching/defense/baserunning.


Posted by RichieRich on Oct-18-2004 00:04:

quote:
Originally posted by pvd420
it would. every year its the same story. yankees spending butt loads of money to get anyone they want and not worrying about having to make the playoffs or get to the world series pretty much. in my eyes this looks more like a buisness and less like a sport. i am sure yankee fans will disagree but for the rest of us that like the game of baseball and teams other than the yankees, this just gets annoying year after year.

at this point i dont expect much out of the mets every year since their management is such a mess, but it would be nice to see a league where the difference between the teams that spend the most money and those that dont isnt over a hundred million dollars. i mean c'mon, you could pay pretty much an entire team of players with that. sigh...if there only was a salary cap. and yes i know that boston spent a lot of money this past year too. i am not agreeing with what they did either.

someone made a point about fox being very anti yankees a few days ago. i think that it is pretty much everyone outside of this huge yankee fan base that is sick and tired of this dynasty and is ready for this to come to an end. when this will happen i have no idea. maybe when stienbrenner relinquishes control of the team or something. what i wouldnt give for the 80's to be back again where yankee fans would appreciate just making the playoffs and not expect it every year.

as for this series, boston has been flat out dominated in just about every aspect of the game. curse or whatever, something has to change and i am glad that i dont live up in new england. god this must be depressing for them.



you are totally missing the fact that the yankees have been built by years and years of success. while i am all in favor of a salary cap, this is the way baseball has been since the beginning of time. george is playing by the rules. go cry elsewhere. maybe we should should start losing on purpose to make all the other teams happy.


Posted by verndogs on Oct-18-2004 00:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Shamez214
First of all, everyone knows and should be able to admit that the Red Sox are not this bad. We all know that. But they have been playing shitty and the Yankees have been playing good and that's why the results have been so lopsided.

But the main reason I am replying is for the Manny Ramirez bad baserunning comment. If you're talking about trying to go from 1st to 3rd in the first inning off of Ortiz' hit... I think that was the best baserunning I've seen all series from either team. The Sox haven't been scoring runs all series, they have to try and make things happen in that case. And what was he out by? An inch? He was so close to making it. If he had been safe, it would've been hailed as 'great baserunning' by the announcers, but because he was out, it was bad baserunning.


It's just bad baseruning. End of story


Posted by DJ_Lord on Oct-18-2004 00:39:

*Hands the broom to the Red Sox fans so they can do some cleaning*

Ha. Can't believe Boston actually thought had a chance. Go Home!


Posted by RichieRich on Oct-18-2004 01:20:

hmmm if only the red sox would have spent that extra 12 million dollars...


Posted by RichieRich on Oct-18-2004 01:24:

i wonder if the red sox and the mets are run by the same people...they sure do make the same mistakes.


Posted by DJ_Lord on Oct-18-2004 02:07:

lol .. so weak..


Posted by trunks1022 on Oct-18-2004 02:20:

just overheard from the fox broadcast...

"bill wakefield"

who da fuck is bill wakefield, timmy?


Posted by RichieRich on Oct-18-2004 02:53:

quote:
Originally posted by trunks1022
just overheard from the fox broadcast...

"bill wakefield"

who da fuck is bill wakefield, timmy?



we love to hate em though dont we. heh


Posted by Vlad on Oct-18-2004 02:57:

Atleast this game is alittle more sane than last night. I started to feel bad when the lead started to become double digits.


Posted by DJ_Lord on Oct-18-2004 04:04:

yea i felt bad too lol hhahaha


Posted by Stassi on Oct-18-2004 04:21:

Woa
that was close
it was a grand catch tho


Posted by partyhopper on Oct-18-2004 04:42:

breakin' the record for longest ALCS game for the second night in a row!


Posted by Vlad on Oct-18-2004 04:50:

Come on Matsui!


Posted by Vlad on Oct-18-2004 04:52:

Bernie HAS to come through!!!


Posted by Vlad on Oct-18-2004 05:24:

GG Boston.


Posted by DiMethGuy on Oct-18-2004 05:25:

BIG PAPI does it again!


Posted by mdamon7278 on Oct-18-2004 05:25:

WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAA BELIEVE PEOPLE BELIEVE!!!


Posted by DiMethGuy on Oct-18-2004 05:26:

quote:
Originally posted by mdamon7278
WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAA BELIEVE PEOPLE BELIEVE!!!


Preach on Brother...I still believe


Posted by Shamez214 on Oct-18-2004 05:39:

Break out the brooms, right guys? Oh... wait... I;m not even going to bother saying what I think will happen, because nothing I've said so far has happened. So I'll just let nature take it's course.


Posted by Mebot on Oct-18-2004 06:16:

It was a hell of a drive coming back to school tonite.

I left my house just after the 3rd inning and listened to the entire game for 4 hours on AM radio!

wow talk about edge of your seat ball game listening. In the 9th i was clenching the steering wheel so hard!

But wow what a game, amazing!


Posted by Vlad on Oct-18-2004 06:27:

Im expecting Pedro to come out big and the Bosox winning game 5. But Game 6 will go to the Yankees - they will regroup and come out big.


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