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Did someone already say because it has no soul?

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Originally posted by Allied Nations Did someone already say because it has no soul?

Whether any track has a soul or not depends on how much care and passion they put in it. Genre nor the instruments matter in my opinion.

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Originally posted by Dark Apostle Whether any track has a soul or not depends on how much care and passion they put in it. Genre nor the instruments matter in my opinion.

Oh I mean Soul genre wise and black music in general. There is nothing black about trance - doesnt mean black people wont like it or make it (usually does though) but there is no black music in trance music really.

*insert "that's racist" .gif here*

Re: Why is trance dominated by white people?

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Originally posted by Jimmy Why is trance dominated by white people? The DJ's are white. The producers are white. The listening audience are white. Why?

I think everyone is taking this topic in wrong direction. I think it is a vicious cycle that has more to do with accessibility and conformity rather than being defined by a racial construct.

Firstly, we start with who makes the music for the EDM. What do you need to make it? Electronic equipment--that historically was quite expensive and only since the advent of computer generated music has it gotten cheaper--as well as the free time to make it.

So then why are producers & DJs white? Because most of the non-white population is concentrated in developing countries where the access to, the money and the time to make electronic music is not as easy as compared to more developed countries. I do not think that Pro Tools would really work well someplace that does not have basic electricity.

So now we have music made from predominately white producers and is therefore considered "white" music (a broad generalization but true). Then we have non-white people listening to EDM music that are told to conform to their culture and listen to "their" music. And I am speaking from experience, because a lot of my Indian friends wondered why I listen to EDM instead of rap or Indian music (because that is the music they listened to it, I even got crap from my 'rents). It's like trying to explain the world is round when everyone thinks it's flat.

Now this is a broad generalization and there are people and places that break this premise. But I think the peer pressure to conform as well the inability to produce electronic music is why, generally speaking, this genre tends to be dominated by white producers and DJs.

As to the listening audience I think it is also dependent on the availability of EDM music in the area and the demographics of your area. I would think that EDM parties abroad in Japan, India, or China would not be dominated by white people.

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Originally posted by AnGeLicK So then why are producers & DJs white? Because most of the non-white population is concentrated in developing countries where the access to, the money and the time to make electronic music is not as easy as compared to more developed countries. I do not think that Pro Tools would really work well someplace that does not have basic electricity.

lol

I did my internship at an record label / record store. My primary work was for the record label but sometimes I helped out in the record store.
We sold EDM vinyl from trance to techno to club to hardstyl. With about 90% accuracy you could tell which style people wanted to buy. You could see if somebody wanted popular electro house or black hole/ armada trance. Ofcourse no black people for trance.

Could it be because it is big in many Nordic / european countries????

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Originally posted by SteveMKIIDub Could it be because it is big in many Nordic / european countries????

hit the spot there

Who the fuck cares.

EoT.

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Originally posted by Allied Nations Oh I mean Soul genre wise and black music in general. There is nothing black about trance - doesnt mean black people wont like it or make it (usually does though) but there is no black music in trance music really.

Good to know that Gangsta rap and Crunk n' B has Soul in it...

Dunno why people keep insisting on it, but in my opinion there is no "black" or "white" music. Music is music. One likes it or one doesn't and i hardly think that the pigmentation of your skin has any influence on it

A combination of conformity, exposure/availability and peer-presure on the other has probably has.

No wrong of course

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Originally posted by r5a Who the fuck cares. EoT.

sme people do. I'm one of them. Very interesting topic imo

Asians like-a-da trance

Aso Aso

Like I said previously in this thread, im 100% black and I basically only listen to EDM. It used to be just Trance (which I still listen to alot), but I discovered many other genres like breaks, dnb, ambient, etc. I do think it has alot to do with exposure through people and friends. If my friend hadn't of introduced me some 6 or so years ago, im not so sure I would be listening to it today. I don't solely listen to EDM though, as I do enjoy jazz as well as some classical pieces. When I was younger, 13 and earlier, all I used to listen to was rap or hip-hop because thats what I believed I was "supposed" to listen to. I saw this music as having been developed specifically for "my culture", and so did the rest of the world up until the late 90's.

Overall I think its just the relation people want to have with their music. I find that the majority of people I know who normally listen to rap or hip-hop do so beacuse the music makes them feel tougher, or like their some kind of invincible badass, and for some people thats what they might need to feel better about themselves. Or they might just adhere to the hip-hop/rap culture simply because it has become so embedded into youth society that they have no choice but to listen to it. Even as a nineteen year old, I find myself cringing at the sound of that music because of how dull and boring it sounds compared to EDM, jazz, or classical. Its basically just a looped beat(and when I say looped, I mean EXACT same sound throughout the entire track), bad vocalists, and even worse lyrics. I just can't understand whats going on in the minds of rap artists when they are making some of these songs.

I dunno, there are rap acts like The Roots that have actual musicians and don't go on and on about "bitches and guns." Those kinds seem to be the exception, though, and not very popular...

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I dunno, there are rap acts like The Roots that have actual musicians and don't go on and on about "bitches and guns." Those kinds seem to be the exception, though, and not very popular...

Yea, I do enjoy listening to artists like this though. Its just a very small percentage of the crap out there.

why is trance addict dominated by dumb people?

because cheese goes best with crackers

lol

hey dumb people are people too. Don't hate us because we are beautiful.

im sexy too

I didn't read the thread (6 pages, come on) but...

Does it have funk? No.
Does it have soul? No.
Does it have groove? Essentially no.

There you have it; White music. Nothing wrong with that, it's just the way it is.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Yay for making a racial issue out of everything.

amen

i was thinking about this today and believe it can be explained much simpler: most people, most of the time, will like what music is around them most when they are developing their preferences.

with respect to trance, i believe that white europeans created early electronic music, which later influenced other european electronic musicians, which in turn influenced even more european musicians which produced the music that many now call trance. that is all.

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