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Originally posted by Dean Millson fixed

seems pretty right to me mate...

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Originally posted by davidvonhauser I totally agree. I think that's exactly what needs to happen to revitalise a scene. Instead of 'pushing it' on the popular culture who will just think "nah trance is dead house is the cool thing now", or even worse won't even notice that the music is different, it needs to be brought back into an underground context. Although you're also right in that if there isnt any producers, it's just not going to happen. I have faith though.

fvck yeah!!! i agree.

bumped a month and a half later, just to say "i agree"?

sorry, is there a law against that?

...i agree wholeheartedly.

Last night I went to Lalaland, Hobart's only regular gay (the crowd, and sometimes the music too) trance night. Tristan (Ghostface, whatever happened to him??) started off with some softer proggy stuff, then Ian went on to play cheesy handbag house. The place filled up and the dance floor was packed. Then Liv (kittn) came on to do her big room room trance and the dance floor was only about half full for the duration of her set. Maybe all the drunkards were past it and had to go home?

Anyway, the moral to this story: People don't dance to trance. Not here in Hobart at least, the closest thing we even get to trance is BeXta banging it out a couple times a year.


Twas also v.funny seeing pkc screwing his face up and shaking his head prior to 2am..

most people would say that names like armin van buuren, marco v, tiesto, paul van dyk etc are big because of massive tunes they've made and their production history. i think we just need someone here to make a tune that goes big, maybe has a bit of appeal to everyone and start off from there. we all have great local djs there is no doubt, but it seems like australian trance producers don't seem to be that well known, once that happens i think the scene might get a bit of a kick.

to a degree phil that may be right, but talk to any dutch ta and they will say even holland doesnt have that many trance nights anymore, i think its a decline everywhere not just melbourne

yeah i know what you mean, i think im referring more to having our own trance superstar in a way, maybe that would help. im not sure i know what i am saying. do you?

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Originally posted by Philby yeah i know what you mean, i think im referring more to having our own trance superstar in a way, maybe that would help. im not sure i know what i am saying. do you?

We've had some and they've faded away.
Peewee Ferris
maybe not trance but Anthony Pappa isn't heard of as much as he used to

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Originally posted by narcism to a degree phil that may be right, but talk to any dutch ta and they will say even holland doesnt have that many trance nights anymore, i think its a decline everywhere not just melbourne

I wonder how they shuffle in clogs?

i've been saying this for how long?

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Originally posted by Philby most people would say that names like armin van buuren, marco v, tiesto, paul van dyk etc are big because of massive tunes they've made and their production history. i think we just need someone here to make a tune that goes big, maybe has a bit of appeal to everyone and start off from there. we all have great local djs there is no doubt, but it seems like australian trance producers don't seem to be that well known, once that happens i think the scene might get a bit of a kick.

Marsh is on the money with his new track!! played it at the rooftop party! went off!!

like christopher lawrence meets alphazone

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Originally posted by charlee I wonder how they shuffle in clogs?

i'll let u know in 3 months

just joined the discussion now.

you guys are saying trance is dead in melbourne?

dunno about that. i see lots of trance records being played and people dancing to them, all over the place. maybe not alphazone flashback for eight hours with a 1500 megawatt full colour laser and glowsticks in every punters back pocket, but lets not be melodramatic - there's still plenty of good trance being made and being played.

^ I think i agree there.

Like yeah it isnt the standard club music of choice in melbourne (that goes to house and will stay that way until we have a strong enough group of dj's/producers/promoters to match smilie/coarse/padula/van/gough etc. it looks like its on the way tho') - but compared to prog, breaks, d and b etc. trance is actually going orrite now.

Look at the next coupla weeks - lots of choice - you got martin roth (at a monthly night where u get trance), kayu v albert, d-nox (were there'll be some absolutely wikkid trance i have no doubt), jan johnson, earthcore in the park, pvd, some obsession related nights coming up - and i been hearing about a few more regular trance nights in the pipelineZ - we just had two tribes and a few others, its not too bad anymore - it used to be a lot worse let me tell joo



-so yeah scott 4 months from the original post its looking a lil' bit betterrer

(shame most of the ta punters and dj's will be well into prog when trance reaches a new heights here over the coming year or so - well thats my guess )

I cant be assed checking if Ive replied to this thread...

Does it matter that currentlyTrance isnt considered the 'number one' genre choice in Melbourne? Does it matter if the majority of people enjoy house over trance? Does that mean that Trance is shithouse? Ofcourse not... Popularity means fuck all mangz.

Or is it the fact that when you tell people you listen to Trance that people look at you with disgust / n00blahness... What this threads about is the need for making Trance "cool" again. In Melbourne Trance was "cool" b/w 1990 till about 1997... We had one of THE best Trance scenes in the WORLD. But like with everything that gets played all the time, people get sick of it and move onto other genres or subgenres... That means people move onto house / prog / techno etc... So what if they do. As long as the Trance parties are still around and the producers are writing their music..... Thats all that matterz mangz

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we all have great local djs there is no doubt, but it seems like australian trance producers don't seem to be that well known, once that happens i think the scene might get a bit of a kick.

We have some decent producers too *cawwwwf*

^ I know what you're saying and I agree with you for the most part. But I think the thread starters and people contributing are mainly guys who run their own nights and aren't extremely happy with the enthusiasm from punters at this stage.. That's my view anyway.

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Originally posted by Aesthetic ^ I know what you're saying and I agree with you for the most part. But I think the thread starters and people contributing are mainly guys who run their own nights and aren't extremely happy with the enthusiasm from punters at this stage.. That's my view anyway.

I cant comment for others but not from my end dave. When i started this thread things were looking really grim. I'm glad to see they've picked up a little and it looks like they are getting back on track.

Two Tribes was a prime reason as to why we need to ask what the fvck is going on.

Vodaphone arena was packed, loving armin and about 10% actually knew it was trance.

Dave from room680 was telling me his thursday night handbag house promoters who swear against trance went to the house room, then the trance room and stayed there the whole night; apparently they love trance now.

I guess i want to know why on earth they love the music at two tribes, then dont go out all year round when the very same tracks are being played in our club nights.

I think it has to do with image tbh. Its not "uncool" to love trance at Vodaphone, it is to enjoy it week to week.

There are alot of events coming up over march/april which is cool but what sort of numbers do u think will be at most of those?

PVD will sell a couple of thousand tickets, yet the same music at kyau vs albert or martin roth will achieve completely different numbers.

Im not saying the scene here is shit or anything of the sort, it's just inconsistent. If the numbers that enjoy trance at TT went out every cpl of weeks and had a trance/prog night as a preference we could have 3 or 4 good weekly nights. More exposure for dj's, more exposure for producers, more money to invest back into the scene and help put us back on the map.

I understand what youre saying scotty, but its a continuing argument as to why trance is not as big as it was. i blame politics. the bullshit and fuckheads involved who sit back and bicker about "the scene" and how bloody jaded they are because of it need to get a reality check and go back to grass-roots and realise where and when they had fun and how that happened and how they can find that sort of thing on a regular basis. but only if they want to. and trying to turn them into a seeker as such is the hardest part. Look outside the square, as there are a million people just like us looking for exactly the same thing. The rooftop for example. a truckload of people listening to all types of genres having the time of thier lives.

The crowds that we are all looking for are made up of randoms. and randoms become friends when you take the next step and go out meeting new people.

If youre having fun and the punters are having fun then people will realise that whatever the hell they are listening to is fun, doesnt have to be broken down into genres, just good music played at the right times and with change and something different to add a little edge.

People will go out if they know it will be fun.

so i say fuck politics! bring on the fun!

/End of rant/

I don't necessarily think politics has anything to do with the trance scene.. the dj scene however is a different story..

The downfall of the scene is due to the rise of meth and ice use...

ben you are 110% correct i reckon.

most people like a good party, the music is much less important to most people than the vibe and the crew and the atmosphere and the entire weekend experience.

its our job to take the music as seriously as we can as DJs, but only so that we can deliver the proper party experience to the masses in a language that we enjoy (ie our preferred genres).

I can assure you that rooftop would have rocked just as hard, exact same crowd, to almost any genre if the DJ was competent. PVD one hour, steve lawler the next, yoji biomehanika the third, same people would dance sweat kiss laugh and yell through a superb night.

to paraphrase bill clinton, 'its the party, stupid.'

All will be revealed when I open my Hooters bar!

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Originally posted by charlee All will be revealed when I open my Hooters bar!

you have no idea how much self-control i am exercising behind my keyboard here charlee...

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