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Posted by zoric on Jun-17-2006 21:21:

quote:
Originally posted by luisjb82
Dude you must not know your football at all, pardon me but what you're saying makes absolutely no sense... what part of Pirlo's ankle could have broken haven't you understood?, geeez I played football and I know what I'm saying because I was on both ends, doing those type of tackles and also receiving them.

Discretion you say, take another look at the play and notice Pirlo's balance was on 1 leg, the one Mastroeni tackled... lol serious man, what are you on?



Posted by Sinus on Jun-17-2006 21:22:

quote:
Originally posted by LittleGoku
However, it was hilarious how those italians were flopping left and right the entire game.


Well, I guess you've never watched any Italy games before. They're well known around the football world for their dying swan antics.

That and the occasional elbow.


Posted by CranberryJuice on Jun-17-2006 21:22:

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Originally posted by NYCTrancefan
What do you think, they fell as soon as they got touched, some were fouls but after the Czech game the U.S. actually tried to mark instead of letting guys walk to the net and have open space like Rocisky did to tee off. Much more heart in this game, too bad the Uruguayan ref was a jackass and that goes beyond the red cards. A good ref is one you never even have to talk about after the game.



i feel some frustration in your voice calvin


Posted by LittleGoku on Jun-17-2006 21:23:

quote:
Originally posted by NYCTrancefan
No patriotism here, I follow world football and know the U.S. game is not of world class caliber,


lol. Italy mentioned in a newspaper that they didn't recognize any of the American players on the US team except for Reyna. A worldclass team was not able to sink the US today with a 10-9 favor on the field. They obviously played with one today and today gained my respect.


Posted by LuNaSeA on Jun-17-2006 21:23:

first of all, what's up with the immaturity in this thread?! gawd.. and why am i not surprised it was started by a fanboy

anyway, disappointing match from the azzurri,. really was expecting a lot more.. americans got lucky with that autogoal and then really fought with all they've got..very good try by the US.

pope tackling from behind was completely stupid and obv. unnecessary. he really should have known better and the ref was correct on the red card calls IMO.. and then, in the 2nd half, the ref just completely missed such obvious calls, it was ridiculous! such inconsistency, he completely overlooked rly obvious calls such as shirt pulling from US (automatic yellow card) and the handball italy did.

what amazed me was italy's possession over most of the 2nd yet was unable to rock any decent shots.. crap game but i was happy to see the americans fight with all they had with 2 men down- if anyone was given that scenario of US with 2 men down and italy with 1, they would have called it a USA suicide mission but boy, with a lil luck and a lot of effort they really held up. not only was the autogoal luck but also the fact that the ref was handing out cards like confetti so italy was taking out players in fear of losing them to more yellow (and hence, red) cards so that's why totti and the like were taken out- cant risk them being suspended for the CR game next week (also contributing to why they werent doing so well).

good work usa, try harder italy..

side note: i dont think the US is fast enough for Ghana.


Posted by smallSHEEP on Jun-17-2006 21:24:

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Originally posted by NYCTrancefan
No patriotism here, I follow world football and know the U.S. game is not of world class caliber, that is obvious to anyone though. I just hate to see a ref have so much influence in a games outcome in the World Cup, especially when issues existed about him before he even took the field in prior questionable refereeing.


IMO the only thing questionable about the ref was when he deliberately stopped handing out free kicks and cards in the second half in a desparate attempt to balance out the match and get some free flowing football. There were so many bad tackles that game.

edit : yes I watched the Ghana game today and they were amazing, ripped the czechs appart. The deciders in this round are going to be fun.


Posted by NYCTrancefan on Jun-17-2006 21:25:

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Originally posted by CranberryJuice
i feel some frustration in your voice calvin


You know it, I watch the Serie A but never knew Italians flopped like a fish out of water when touched. At any rate the U.S. isn't advancing Marie, I'm rooting for Ghana to advance but I would be more worried about France.


Posted by LittleGoku on Jun-17-2006 21:26:

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Originally posted by LuNaSeA


side note: i dont think the US is fast enough for Ghana.


Interesting point, both reyna and Oguchi Onyewu will not be playing in the third game. US loses a good defender in onyewu but look for beasley and eddie johnson to be running and gunning in the final game as starting positions.


Posted by CranberryJuice on Jun-17-2006 21:26:

quote:
Originally posted by NYCTrancefan
You know it, I watch the Serie A but never knew Italians flopped like a fish out of water when touched. At any rate the U.S. isn't advancing Marie, I'm rooting for Ghana to advance but I would be more worried about France.



my secret wish is that france will arrive to quarter at least ....everybody has the right to dream right

do u seriously think u guys gonna beat ghana?im not sure AT ALL !


Posted by luisjb82 on Jun-17-2006 21:27:

quote:
Originally posted by LittleGoku
lol. Italy mentioned in a newspaper that they didn't recognize any of the American players on the US team except for Reyna. A worldclass team was not able to sink the US today with a 10-9 favor on the field. They obviously played with one today and today gained my respect.


Yes, USA really played a tough game today proving they are in fact one of the most physical teams in the WC... Someone also said mentioned something about being laughed at for saying this was the group of death. I can only agree with you on that one as well, I'm not surprised by how close this group is, because I knew the americans were no cake... I'm shocked at group C though because both the argentinian and dutch really made it look easy


Posted by zoric on Jun-17-2006 21:27:

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Originally posted by LittleGoku
Interesting point, both reyna and Oguchi Onyewu will not be playing in the third game. US loses a good defender in onyewu but look for beasley and eddie johnson to be running and gunning in the final game as starting positions.


Ghana is playing without Asamoah Gyan (Man of the Match today) and Muntari. Both goalscorers today..


Posted by LuNaSeA on Jun-17-2006 21:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Sinus
Well, I guess you've never watched any Italy games before. They're well known around the football world for their dying swan antics.

That and the occasional elbow.



lol @ swan tactics.. so true!

and that elbow was done on purpose, that ******.. i felt terrible for mcbride.


Posted by zoric on Jun-17-2006 21:28:

quote:
Originally posted by LuNaSeA
lol @ swan tactics.. so true!

and that elbow was done on purpose, that ******.. i felt terrible for mcbride.


You're not alone about that one, but I'm very happy that he kept on playing and almost scored the deciding goal. Very strong will from him and thumbs up for him


Posted by LittleGoku on Jun-17-2006 21:28:

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Originally posted by luisjb82
Yes, USA really played a tough game today proving they are in fact one of the most physical teams in the WC... Someone also said mentioned something about being laughed at for saying this was the group of death. I can only agree with you on that one as well, I'm not surprised by how close this group is, because I knew the americans were no cake... I'm shocked at group C though because both the argentinian and dutch really made it look easy


I also see Czech Republic and Italy going all out because second place gets a golden ticket to face brazil in the next round (if brazil fulfills) LOL


Posted by NYCTrancefan on Jun-17-2006 21:29:

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Originally posted by CranberryJuice

do u seriously think u guys gonna beat ghana?im not sure AT ALL !


I was rooting more for the U.S. in that I am here in the U.S. and would like to see the game grow to a higher level, as for beating Ghana I doubt it, they are missing two players I believe but the may just need Essien in that game when you consider the U.S. is too slow to counter. I was practically shouting profanity at my HDTV telling them to counter faster instead it was like watching paint dry.


Posted by LittleGoku on Jun-17-2006 21:31:

quote:
Originally posted by zoric
Ghana is playing without Asamoah Gyan (Man of the Match today) and Muntari. Both goalscorers today..

WOW!?? you're kidding me?

I missed the first half of the Ghana matchup....wow im totally surprised now and eagerly wait the final game!

The US didn't really lose goal scorers for the next game but did lose some defenders and the team captain


Posted by zoric on Jun-17-2006 21:32:

quote:
Originally posted by LittleGoku
WOW!?? you're kidding me?

I missed the first half of the Ghana matchup....wow im totally surprised now and eagerly wait the final game!

The US didn't really lose goal scorers for the next game but did lose some defenders and the team captain


Yes, both are suspended. Gyan for a stupid move by the referee, such a shame he's suspended, shouldn't been.


Posted by LuNaSeA on Jun-17-2006 21:37:

the best defense US has against ghana will be casey keller. i think he's one of the best goalkeepers around. ghana's proclivity for impulsive firebomb shots from 30-40 yards away will be absolutely unstoppable by US defenders.


Posted by loconet on Jun-17-2006 21:39:

lol, I can't believe the number of people complaining about US's first red card. It was a good call by the ref, It was 100% a red card.

I was personally rootin for the US, the game the italians played was shameful.


Posted by happyface on Jun-17-2006 21:41:

The US came into this game with a whole different attitude.I liked their aggressiveness and only if they would've played a little smarter they could've actually won this game. They still have hope even if its a little but this group is still up for grabs and so is the second spot for the next round.

If the US is to blame someone it should be Pope,he failed to mark his man on Italy's gol who eventually was the player to score and put los Tanos ahead and then commiting a hard foul in the begining of the 2nd half leaving his team with 9 players.

The ref was right on the money with his bookings.The one that had a horrible day was the far linesman.Making ridiculous calls when players were perfectly onside, lifting his flag on calling offsides wtf what game was he watching?Late in the game an italian forward was offsides and he let the play continue in where Itlay was close to score their second gol and close the deal on the US chances of going into the next round.

Italy beat Ghana,the Czechs beat the US,Ghana beats the Czechs,Italy can't beat the US, very interesting to see what the outcome of the last and final games of this group will be.This is more like the group of death then Group C.


Posted by mellow_head on Jun-17-2006 21:42:

The decisions of the ref were right (exlusions). Overall, the game was ruined with the 3 red cards. 1 - 1 is a fair outcome for all.


Posted by LuNaSeA on Jun-17-2006 21:42:

holy shit i just realized i'm wearing yellow and green!!!!!!!!!

omg no wonder why italy sucked!


Posted by malek on Jun-17-2006 21:43:

all the italian flags have disappeared from my neighbourhood... hahahahaha


Posted by luisjb82 on Jun-17-2006 21:46:

hey malek, why do you always make fun of the rest of the teams? lol seriously...


Posted by NYCTrancefan on Jun-17-2006 21:48:

quote:
Originally posted by happyface
The US came into this game with a whole different attitude.I liked their aggressiveness and only if they would've played a little smarter they could've actually won this game. They still have hope even if its a little but this group is still up for grabs and so is the second spot for the next round.

If the US is to blame someone it should be Pope,he failed to mark his man on Italy's gol who eventually was the player to score and put los Tanos ahead and then commiting a hard foul in the begining of the 2nd half leaving his team with 9 players.

Italy beat Ghana,the Czechs beat the US,Ghana beats the Czechs,Italy can't beat the US, very interesting to see what the outcome of the last and final games of this group will be.This is more like the group of death then Group C.


If the Ivory Coast was in this group they might have won all two games so far given the way they played Argentina and the Netherlands. I think Italy and the Czechs might end a draw if Koller and/or Baros doesn't come back for the Czechs, Ghana will beat the U.S. too much pace. I'm rooting for them to move on given their play in the two games. This game made me really hate Italian football, stay on your feet and play like men, they're a talented side but too much prettyboys who roll over when touched, the Czechs looked lost without Koller. The Ghanians are in the best form right now and should advance if the Italians and Czechs don't give it all and end up tied, I hope so their rewards would be Brazil.


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