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Originally posted by Slylee yea after i posted that i figured that's what she meant. isn't fast turtle a she?

Women invented that awkward feeling you get when you show a woman your penis that you'd spent an entire night dressing up as Sandra Day O'Connor and present a penis monologue with it regarding women's rights and all she does is grimace a bit.

Fast Turtle is a male-to-female transsexual, if I remember correctly.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Fast Turtle is a male-to-female transsexual, if I remember correctly.

The question is would you hit it ?

I dunno, I've never contemplated having sex with a transsexual. It seems to me that if I knew about the person's transsexuality I would feel kind of "weird" about doing it, even if she happened to look very good (I have no idea what Fast Turtle looks like).

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Originally posted by Slylee yea after i posted that i figured that's what she meant. isn't fast turtle a she?

I've been a regular here for like 6 months. Don't ask me

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Fast Turtle is a male-to-female transsexual, if I remember correctly.

seriously??

Yes. I thought I remembered having read that somewhere in here before.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I dunno, I've never contemplated having sex with a transsexual. It seems to me that if I knew about the person's transsexuality I would feel kind of "weird" about doing it, even if she happened to look very good (I have no idea what Fast Turtle looks like).

dude ... the answer should be "FUCK NO!" and not "i dunno, i've never contemplated it"

Would you rather have sex with a hot pocket ?

Eh, I'm not so "creeped out" about transsexuality in the way that a lot of people seem to be. It's just one of the more extreme versions of the (seemingly universal) human desire to change one's body in a way that one finds satisfying. Still, in the case of sexual interaction with a person, I would (being straight) find the thought that the person used to have a penis kind of "unsettling."

i think most societies have incorporated some form of repression of women's sexuality into their societies. with islam it is (in some cases) female circumcision/exision or wearing a headscarf or having to be escorted by a male to avoid being stoned, raped or harrassed. with christianity it is original sin, and the perpetual image of the virgin/temptress. there is no inbetween. i think as women, we hold the key to sustaining human life, and men were/are afraid enough of that to think to hold women back, to treat them like objects, to demean their existence, when in reality, without women, they wouldn't be here! i know you can turn that around and say women need men too, but honestly, we only need you for about 30 minutes, then it's all on us. did you know i think it's switzerland that only just granted women the right to vote in the 70s?! can you believe that?

Yea but what if you met a �girl� and fell in love with her and who she is as a person, and on top of that, she was gorgeous and then you found out she used to be a guy and went through all the surgeries?

To me, it shouldn�t matter because you fell in love with who they are, not what they are. But I mean, I can see where guys would get all weirded out at first, but really, it shouldn�t matter.

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Originally posted by Slylee Yea but what if you met a �girl� and fell in love with her and who she is as a person, and on top of that, she was gorgeous and then you found out she used to be a guy and went through all the surgeries?

It probably wouldn't matter much to me if I learned about it that late in the game. Here, as in many areas, timing may be key...

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Originally posted by prolikewhoa i think most societies have incorporated some form of repression of women's sexuality into their societies. with islam it is (in some cases) female circumcision/exision or wearing a headscarf or having to be escorted by a male to avoid being stoned, raped or harrassed. with christianity it is original sin, and the perpetual image of the virgin/temptress. there is no inbetween. i think as women, we hold the key to sustaining human life, and men were/are afraid enough of that to think to hold women back, to treat them like objects, to demean their existence, when in reality, without women, they wouldn't be here! i know you can turn that around and say women need men too, but honestly, we only need you for about 30 minutes, then it's all on us. did you know i think it's switzerland that only just granted women the right to vote in the 70s?! can you believe that?

I think you're oversimplifying the need for security and the longing for a life partner waaayyyyyy too much. Just like most men need a woman, I very much doubt that most women only need men for 30secs. Tehnically yes but without the opposite sex I don't think that emotionally you would hold up. Let's not say things that for the majority of people are not true

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Originally posted by Slylee seriously??

yes oddly

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Originally posted by Orbax what no i didnt you blocked me

I never blocked you. I wonder if you were on my old MSN name and I never added you to the new one.

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Originally posted by Fast Turtle yes oddly

thats cool.

I seem to have a thing for transexuals.

I was attracted to an older member here who I don't think posts anymore...and then I found out she was a transexual.

Same thing as the only girl I found intriguing in my high school was a transexual too.

EDIT: oh shit youre the same peoples...now dont i look silly. fucking name changes.

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Originally posted by prolikewhoa i think as women, we hold the key to sustaining human life, and men were/are afraid enough of that to think to hold women back

I think this needs a little clarification.

edit: and as far as metaphors go, I'd say that men hold the key...and that women hold the door and the room.

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Originally posted by beats and beeps EDIT: oh shit youre the same peoples...now dont i look silly. fucking name changes.

I should start doing music again..

Why did the woman cross the road?

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Originally posted by Fast Turtle yes oddly

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Originally posted by prolikewhoa i think most societies have incorporated some form of repression of women's sexuality into their societies. with islam it is (in some cases) female circumcision/exision or wearing a headscarf or having to be escorted by a male to avoid being stoned, raped or harrassed. with christianity it is original sin, and the perpetual image of the virgin/temptress. there is no inbetween. i think as women, we hold the key to sustaining human life, and men were/are afraid enough of that to think to hold women back, to treat them like objects, to demean their existence, when in reality, without women, they wouldn't be here! i know you can turn that around and say women need men too, but honestly, we only need you for about 30 minutes, then it's all on us. did you know i think it's switzerland that only just granted women the right to vote in the 70s?! can you believe that?

Female sexuality is one of the most feared things by anti-modernists, because it implies that females can choose their mates and thus that men aren't dominating their relations. It is also, depending on how presented, a tad to the unnatural side, since women are generally pictured as less-desiring (birth control, too, is unnatural, and has changed many things). The consequences relating to sex for women these days are much less than was for previous generations, so it's not surprising that women opt to allow for a little more freedom in their sexual expression. Men also take very harshly to the fear of no longer being necessary.

You hold a feminist viewpoint when it comes to the who needs who argument (this stance is the reason a lot of men hate feminists, and some of the roots of misogyny). Women and men both need each other to solve the inherent problem of loneliness to our existing; from a biological standpoint women need maybe one man per ten women, but how many women all want to settle for one man? Competition among women for men is a very fierce battle, and can be just as animalistic as men competing for women (how many women have you seen flip because another girl was flirting with her man?). Men fight more of the wars and engender more of the competitive nature of humanity than women, and while this has led to all sorts of conflict, it's also a great source of the progress we've made as a species.

If you look at statistics regarding cheating, you can see that almost as many women cheat in relationships as men. Clearly, women get something important from their relations with men.

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Eh, I'm not so "creeped out" about transsexuality in the way that a lot of people seem to be. It's just one of the more extreme versions of the (seemingly universal) human desire to change one's body in a way that one finds satisfying. Still, in the case of sexual interaction with a person, I would (being straight) find the thought that the person used to have a penis kind of "unsettling."

Understandably. I've seen plenty of men and women react very negatively over the years.. Mostly I think it's because it makes people confront what they consider a gender to be, something that normally they'd never think about because they consider things with vaginas women and penises men. There is a profound worry that they might actually be attracted to this other thing, and what that might make them in terms of their sexual orientation.

There's still the problem of people who are born with no specified gender too, due usually to genetic abnormalities or chemical exposure, something that's pretty much been ignored up until recently. Whenever this would happen in the past, they'd usually be assigned some sort of gender and live as that, but it's increasingly becoming an option for such people these days to live as a sort of inbetween.

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Originally posted by Fast Turtle yes oddly

interesting.... pre or post op?

Edit... you really have no obligation to answer this, I'm just curious.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard interesting.... pre or post op? Edit... you really have no obligation to answer this, I'm just curious.

Pre-, though I'm not really living as a transsexual anymore, I'm living as a male again... it's a long story.

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