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Posted by AustralianGQ on Dec-06-2007 01:55:

im so stupid...


here i am wasting my time tryna defend myself and for what? absolutely nothing...lol....

i know that all of u dont really think im racist, ur just being a bunch of shit disturbers who wanna get a reaction out of me. i actually laughed when i thought about it, b/c here i am wasting my time arguing over nothing, over stupid things. so i relaly have no desire to argue or defend myself anymore, its all just alil silly to so, knowing ur just tryna get a reaction.

oh silllllly me


Posted by FunkyCrew on Dec-06-2007 02:15:

quote:
Originally posted by AustralianGQ
im so stupid...


here i am wasting my time tryna defend myself and for what? absolutely nothing...lol....

i know that all of u dont really think im racist, ur just being a bunch of shit disturbers who wanna get a reaction out of me. i actually laughed when i thought about it, b/c here i am wasting my time arguing over nothing, over stupid things. so i relaly have no desire to argue or defend myself anymore, its all just alil silly to so, knowing ur just tryna get a reaction.

oh silllllly me


yeah yeah, whatever makes you sleep better at night


Posted by AustralianGQ on Dec-06-2007 02:42:

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
yeah yeah, whatever makes you sleep better at night



that thought would actually keep me up at night


Posted by jon jon on Dec-06-2007 03:11:

quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
A teacher in grade five told me to stop acting like a clown. I cried and I said that he shouldn't call people clowns, it's offensive, and he said I didn't call you a clown, I said you were acting like a clown. But seriously, who acts like a clown, A FUCKING CLOWN does.


hahh diss


Posted by bas on Dec-06-2007 03:22:

quote:
Originally posted by AustralianGQ
im so stupid...

Yes.


Posted by FunkyCrew on Dec-06-2007 03:39:

quote:
Originally posted by bas
Yes.


lol! thanks for isolating the key phrase


Posted by Krypton on Dec-06-2007 03:48:

Miltin Friedman said it best. You can't have both welfare and immigration. Choose one and you'll have to limit the other. If a country has an extensive tax payer funded welfare program, then they have to limit immigration and will have problems like the America. If welfare is kept under strict control, then immigration would actually help by increasing the productivity of country with more workers, and more talent.

Austrian School of Economics...


Posted by soupastah on Dec-06-2007 03:52:

quote:
Originally posted by AustralianGQ
canada is no longer canada, when i walk down the street and see no white ppl, just blacks and indians and asians...


People can think SO differently. I mean when I'm walking around an area that is completely different from me i get excited. I've live in plenty of foreign countries and visited in many others. And the one thing i loved the most was being 'exotic'. no lie, white boys go to Italy, or pakistan, or china. You become exotic, and again no lie being different or 'exotic' all of a sudden GAURANTEES you get laid. I loved living in Pakistan, and visiting Italy, when they hear you're canadian all off a sudden you're the hottest shit in town. In stead of feeling threatened, take advantage of it! I hate walking around here and being 'normal'. look at it this way, you're in a room full of blonde hollywood double d's all smoking, and you have only one lucy lu, or one beautiful persian eyed olive skined beauty queen.... who stands out? the xotic. you need some perspective. fuck blending in dude. I WISH i were in an area again where you could be considered 'different' from the rest


Posted by soupastah on Dec-06-2007 03:53:

for the record I don't find lucy lu hot but, I think the majority of guys do? It was just an example


Posted by Spacey Orange on Dec-06-2007 04:22:

hai


Posted by zoogla on Dec-06-2007 05:27:

quote:
Originally posted by AustralianGQ
no i dont, infact i dont have facebook. i have no friends so i choose not to use it at all.

Awww *tear*
quote:
Originally posted by AustralianGQ
ur just being a bunch of shit disturbers who wanna get a reaction out of me.

Honestly, I was not trying to get a reaction; I was just reacting to your comments as you presented them. You were pretty aggressive in your tone and didn't provide much context for your statements so most of us arrived at the same conclusion. The only people who didn't were mind-numbingly pedantic.
quote:
Originally posted by Spacey Orange
hai

hay thar! lol whenever I see your avvy I always think, "*polite chuckle*" LOL!!!


Posted by Jayx1 on Dec-11-2007 18:36:

I dont care where people come from, what they look like, what language they speak, what clothes they wear etc etc. But what i do ask is that they respect canada when they arrive. This means that they have to do more to bend to our way of life then we do for theirs. They chose to come here and with coming here comes many many changes that need to be made in certain ways of life.

I cant fathom why anyone would come to canada for example, and demand that we change christmas customs. Whats even more baffling is that we actually listen to them.

The worst part still is that its only a small number of immigrants that paint a bad name for the majority. Yet we still have to bow down to the pressure. Thats the part of immigration that pisses a lot of people off. Sadly it usually ends up coming out in ignorant and sometimes racist generalizations.

Btw im all for bringing new ideas and ways of life into our country. BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHER PRE-EXISTING IDEAS AND WAYS OF LIFE as it tends to be today.


Posted by lopi on Dec-11-2007 19:03:

*disclaimer* I don't have the time to go through the whole thread to make sure someone didn't already say the exact same thing but...

quote:
Originally posted by AustralianGQ
oh god forbid i use "ur" instead of your...who cares.


quote:
Originally posted by AustralianGQ
blow shit out of porportion!



quote:
Originally posted by AustralianGQ
bottem line is


quote:
Originally posted by AustralianGQ
thnx but i finished highschool at 16 and graduated and im going to college next year...did you finish at 16? nah i didnt think so....



I'm not saying you didn't graduate, what I am saying is that you should have stayed the extra year to learn how to spell.

Just a thought.


Posted by zoogla on Dec-11-2007 19:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
Btw im all for bringing new ideas and ways of life into our country. BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHER PRE-EXISTING IDEAS AND WAYS OF LIFE as it tends to be today.

I totally agree, given that the existing ideas and ways are life are still demanded by the majority. Values and priorities in a country are constantly changing and evolving, and as long as the majority of the representatives in the legislative/judicial/executive branches of municipal/provincial/federal bodies agree with said new ideas, then I say get rid of the old ones!

Even when it seems the will of the minority is followed, it eventually goes through the test of the majority, so I don't have a problem with change (if that means no Christmas tree or what not). Of course, I have my own opinion as you do, which will be represented when I vote, sign a petition, or attend a demonstration so I am comfortable that my voice will be heard and the appropriate decision will be made in this wonderfully organized democracy that we live in!

That's all theory, of course, but I truly believe it is effectively applied in our country.


Posted by The Highroller on Dec-11-2007 19:29:

quote:
Originally posted by lopi
*disclaimer* I don't have the time to go through the whole thread to make sure someone didn't already say the exact same thing but...


I'm not saying you didn't graduate, what I am saying is that you should have stayed the extra year to learn how to spell.

Just a thought.


lol

uhhh, maybe you should have.


Posted by LKD on Dec-11-2007 20:34:

quote:
Originally posted by The Highroller
lol

uhhh, maybe you should have.



yea...shes totelee blowned it out off proporshan now


Posted by Spam on Dec-11-2007 21:08:

quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
A teacher in grade five told me to stop acting like a clown. I cried and I said that he shouldn't call people clowns, it's offensive, and he said I didn't call you a clown, I said you were acting like a clown. But seriously, who acts like a clown, A FUCKING CLOWN does. I hated him ever since. So yes, who sounds like an idiot, AN IDIOT.

An


Clowns don't act like clowns... They are clowns, they have no choice.

You are a girl. If you say something 'manly' and someone tells you to stop acting like a male. They didn't call you a male, you are a girl acting like a male. If you said something girly, and they told you to stop acting like a girl, it would make no sense, you are a girl, you have no choice. (and don't start on the whole feminist "Well I actually DO have a choice because I am Powerful Woman, and if I want to be a male, I can damn-well be a male!" I'm just illustrating a point)

By telling you to stop acting like a clown, your teacher was implying that, in fact, you are NOT a clown, and thus, should stop pretending to be one.

If Bozo the Clown were in your grade 5 class, and was creating a disturbance, there's not a whole lot your teacher could have said to him, except to calm down and remember that the whole class isn't filled with clowns.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Dec-11-2007 21:19:

It's a simile. The teacher should have said so.


Posted by Plump Funk on Dec-11-2007 22:19:

quote:
Originally posted by AustralianGQ

here i am wasting my time tryna defend myself and for what?


lol,
My name is Tryna and i'm here to eat your babies.


Posted by LKD on Dec-11-2007 22:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Plump Funk
lol,
My name is Tryna and i'm here to eat your babies.



haram


Posted by Plump Funk on Dec-11-2007 22:47:

quote:
Originally posted by El K Dee
haram

says who?


Posted by StereoPrincess on Dec-11-2007 23:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Spam
Clowns don't act like clowns... They are clowns, they have no choice.

You are a girl. If you say something 'manly' and someone tells you to stop acting like a male. They didn't call you a male, you are a girl acting like a male. If you said something girly, and they told you to stop acting like a girl, it would make no sense, you are a girl, you have no choice. (and don't start on the whole feminist "Well I actually DO have a choice because I am Powerful Woman, and if I want to be a male, I can damn-well be a male!" I'm just illustrating a point)

By telling you to stop acting like a clown, your teacher was implying that, in fact, you are NOT a clown, and thus, should stop pretending to be one.

If Bozo the Clown were in your grade 5 class, and was creating a disturbance, there's not a whole lot your teacher could have said to him, except to calm down and remember that the whole class isn't filled with clowns.


the fact is that i called him on calling students names and he used fuzzy logic to cover it up. whatever, i say, WHATEVER! i am still damaged as we can tell.


Posted by lopi on Dec-12-2007 02:40:

quote:
Originally posted by The Highroller
lol

uhhh, maybe you should have.


Meh.


Posted by DigiNut on Dec-12-2007 04:03:

quote:
Originally posted by fayraree
I totally agree, given that the existing ideas and ways are life are still demanded by the majority. Values and priorities in a country are constantly changing and evolving, and as long as the majority of the representatives in the legislative/judicial/executive branches of municipal/provincial/federal bodies agree with said new ideas, then I say get rid of the old ones!

This is exactly why most free countries have constitutions - to protect the citizens from the whims of politicians and the lobbyist groups they represent. It doesn't matter how many representatives in any branch of any level of government agree with some idea, if the implementation of said idea is unconstitutional. And if there's legitimate reason to believe that the constitution didn't account for some real-world situation, there is a system for dealing with that and it's called a referendum.

The "test of the majority" is not a legitimate excuse for elected officials to ram through legislation in order appease minority groups. Simply because it doesn't result in a civil war does not prove that the majority agrees with or even accepts the values represented by such politicking; it only highlights their general apathy and ignorance. Remember we live in a country that obsesses over tolerance, so even if we utterly despise a particular idea or way of life, we are told to simply deal with it and move on with our own lives.

Elected officials in a democracy are elected to represent the values and principles of the majority. Their function is not to test the ideological limits of those they claim to represent, nor is it to use those people as guinea pigs for new philosophies and methodologies. That is the polar opposite of a democracy or republic. In a healthy one, the people decide when they are ready to accept new ideas by voting for the candidates who represent those ideas, and anyone who believes that politicians need to pander to special interest groups in order to achieve progress needs to go back to page one of their history books.


Posted by zoogla on Dec-12-2007 12:20:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
This is exactly why most free countries have constitutions - to protect the citizens from the whims of politicians and the lobbyist groups they represent. It doesn't matter how many representatives in any branch of any level of government agree with some idea, if the implementation of said idea is unconstitutional. And if there's legitimate reason to believe that the constitution didn't account for some real-world situation, there is a system for dealing with that and it's called a referendum.

No, dealing with a conflict of a real-world situation with the constitution is not called a referendum, it's called a test of the proportionality principle from the Charter of Rights and Freedoms at the Supreme Court level. That's why I included the federal judicial level in my post, because constitutional rights will be protected at that level. If you're referring to an amendment to the constitution, then yes, a referendum would take place to amend it. Once again, get your facts straight

Response to your other two paragraphs to follow...don't have enough time to refute everything right now!


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