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so just because you have never heard of him before he's no good?

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Originally posted by Fuertez so just because you have never heard of him before he's no good?

Uh....Yea

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH edit What's so special about this guy anyways? I'll be honest with you that I've never heard of him before.

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FIBA Assist Magazine Sep/Oct 2006

read that link to issue of the magazine I added above. See how his team, with less talent managed to beat powerhouse Tel Aviv simply with x's and o's. This is why so many people are impressed with him. He's detail oriented, understands the game on the level of a popovic [I refuse to put the 'h' on his name, he's a slav, goddammit!!], sloan, riley, of jackson.

Read about his achievements, it'll take you like 5 mins just to get through them. For someone never to have coached in the NBA, he's pretty much done everything else.

Guys like this will never be assistant coaches simply because they can't 'coddle' their players like the NBA too often does. Sam himself had to learn that on-the-job, and the coaches I mentioned above often times don't.

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Originally posted by Sly_Guy read that link to issue of the magazine I added above. See how his team, with less talent managed to beat powerhouse Tel Aviv simply with x's and o's. This is why so many people are impressed with him. He's detail oriented, understands the game on the level of a popovic [I refuse to put the 'h' on his name, he's a slav, goddammit!!], sloan, riley, of jackson. Read about his achievements, it'll take you like 5 mins just to get through them. For someone never to have coached in the NBA, he's pretty much done everything else. Guys like this will never be assistant coaches simply because they can't 'coddle' their players like the NBA too often does. Sam himself had to learn that on-the-job, and the coaches I mentioned above often times don't.

Sick. Needed some reading material for the subway

I can't take it anymore. Blow this team up already. B-R-U-T-A-L. Trade Bosh too.

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Originally posted by SuperJimbo I can't take it anymore. Blow this team up already. B-R-U-T-A-L. Trade Bosh too.

How is that different from any other season?

Almost every season, the Raps fans come out, and say, this year will be great for the following reasons: 1, 2, 3....

And every season, the raps fail to deliver. The raps fans are starting to gain the mentality of leafs fans. Stop hoping, predicting, hyping, and just watch the games! If they do well, they do well. Maple Leaf Sports clearly does not know how to build a championship winning team, when competing against the US teams.

ugh. honestly. put some fucking effort into the games....this is just pathetic. they aren't even competing.

The single worst part about watching Raptors ball, and what turns me off from watching, has nothing to with the actual game, it is the commenting. The guys they get for the raps, just suck balls.

There is no steady build of urgency in their voices, and they go crazy over the smallest plays. Typical Canadian commentators, trying to fill the void of US broadcasting.

I wish Marv Albert could call every game.

Where has Chris Bosh gone? He looks like he could care less anymore...he's essentially been non-existent these last 4-5 games.

This is what I think about when I see games like these:

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Originally posted by slingshot Where has Chris Bosh gone? He looks like he could care less anymore...he's essentially been non-existent these last 4-5 games.

And after he said, he was going after the MVP. I think the loss of Sam had a big effect on him. I think he realises that he just won't be able to fight for real results in Toronto.

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Originally posted by Orko Typical Canadian commentators, trying to fill the void of US broadcasting.

Matt Devlin and Jack Armstrong are American, dumbass,

http://www.nba.com/raptors/news/dev...ase_070908.html

http://www.speakers.ca/armstrong_jack.aspx


Listen to any other team's commentators. These guys are just as good.

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Originally posted by SuperJimbo ... Listen to any other team's commentators. These guys are 10x better.

fixed.

with a couple of exceptions (and their names escape me right now), I find Jack to be head and shoulders above most other commentators.

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Originally posted by SuperJimbo Matt Devlin and Jack Armstrong are American, dumbass, http://www.nba.com/raptors/news/dev...ase_070908.html http://www.speakers.ca/armstrong_jack.aspx Listen to any other team's commentators. These guys are just as good.

Well I stand corrected.

I still don't enjoy what they do.

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Originally posted by MarkT I find Jack to be head and shoulders above most other commentators.

+1

Andrea Bargnani was the biggest mistake ever. He has no value now. I bet you couldn't even trade his ass for a 2nd round draft pick.

We could've had Brandon Roy instead

Hubie Brown was one of the guys I was thinking about. There's one in Boston or L.A...fuk, I can't remember.

I think Bosh is frustrated with sometimes being the only guy on the court busting his ass on every play. I don't know if the change to Triano is *that* big of a deal...but I do think he's challenging the rest of the team to step up with a "if you guys don't try, why the fuck should I" demeanour and maybe challenging the GM to make something happen too.

if that's true, it sure worked last night, lol. Kapono was stellar, Jermaine played with a chip on his shoulder, Moon showed flashes of what he brought to the team last year, and Jose's double double + setting the franchise record for consecutive FT = forgetting about TJ (and his 4 points) for a while.

Let's see if they carry that energy forward against Jersey and smack down Carter this time :\

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Originally posted by MarkT Hubie Brown was one of the guys I was thinking about. There's one in Boston or L.A...fuk, I can't remember. I think Bosh is frustrated with sometimes being the only guy on the court busting his ass on every play. I don't know if the change to Triano is *that* big of a deal...but I do think he's challenging the rest of the team to step up with a "if you guys don't try, why the fuck should I" demeanour and maybe challenging the GM to make something happen too. if that's true, it sure worked last night, lol. Kapono was stellar, Jermaine played with a chip on his shoulder, Moon showed flashes of what he brought to the team last year, and Jose's double double + setting the franchise record for consecutive FT = forgetting about TJ (and his 4 points) for a while. Let's see if they carry that energy forward against Jersey and smack down Carter this time :\

+1

I actually enjoyed watching last night's game. Finally Kapono is doing what he's getting paid to do. And the rise of Joey Graham! We better beat the nets after that embarassing lost few weeks ago.

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH We could've had Brandon Roy instead

it hurts so much to look back at draft boards. At least Bargnani has a chance to develop (former #1 picks like Bogut and Kwame Brown are just now starting to adjust and payoff).

but yeah...Roy or Rudy Gay would have been nice :\

Vince Carter...0 for 13 and -32 on the night as the Raps smoke the Nets.

omg, that was fun to watch, haha.

they won, but with big gaps in important areas of the game.

The plugged the paint, but they're still giving up the outside. Still getting out rebounded. And the switches are aweful, JO cannot be left on any point guard. Any team with good shooters and ball movement is gonna kill us.

perimeter D is still a major issue. a LOT of open looks were given up with the Nets just having a terrible shooting night.

It was nice to see the Raps driving to the basket instead of settling for shit shots...and Kapono is playing with an energy that is awesome. His pull up three is something to watch...smooooth. Calderon's D was MUCH improved this game too.

hopefully this win at least motivates the team after some tough loses. Raps still need to make a move if this lineup doesn't gel. Bosh and JO are still not on the same page. They should be owning the boards!

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Originally posted by MarkT but yeah...Roy or Rudy Gay would have been nice :\

weak weak draft when gay/roy are the best picks


i wonder how the draft with lebron/carmelo/wade/bosh will rank after their careers are said and done. might be even comparable to the 84 draft which had Hakeem/MJ/Barkley/Stockton

Saw this today...

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_a...able_via_trade/

I wonder if the Raps can somehow swing a trade to get Thomas for next to nothing...maybe a pick from next years draft and one of their swingmen? For some reason I think he'd fit in well here coming off the bench. He has that athleticism that the team so desperately needs.

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