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Posted by urban_legend on Mar-13-2009 14:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
The police cant legally search you unless you are under arrest

Sure they can, only if they have probable cause though.

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard that's not accurate... what they need is reasonable and probable grounds, which exiting an establishment that has a reputation for drug use is not.

+1

I hear the cops are saying that they are seeing these individuals do drugs in the club and that's why they are searching outside. I say push back on the cops and challenge them on that.

My dad used to be a cop and thought me alot of ways to get out of being searched and what my rights are, it has def helped me in the past.

Posted by Nicolas Oliver on Mar-13-2009 14:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
The police cant legally search you unless you are under arrest

Not exactly; it's more complicated than this.

Posted by Jayx1 on Mar-13-2009 14:41:

I hope they win this. Im not a fan of Comfort Zone but i have been a first hand eyewitness at the harrassment that the police inflicted at peak time at Republik. By the way, ALL charges were dropped in that case.

There is definately harassment going on and clubs are targeted. Anyone who doesnt see that is blind. A victory for comfort zone is in effect a victory for everyone who works and parties in any club in toronto, especially adam vaughans ward.

Its about time somebody stands up to these undemocratic douches

Posted by love_child on Mar-13-2009 15:14:

quote:
Originally posted by urban_legend
Sure they can, only if they have probable cause though.

+1

I hear the cops are saying that they are seeing these individuals do drugs in the club and that's why they are searching outside. I say push back on the cops and challenge them on that.

My dad used to be a cop and thought me alot of ways to get out of being searched and what my rights are, it has def helped me in the past.

Well it would be nice if you could share some of those things with us

Posted by love_child on Mar-13-2009 15:16:

quote:
Originally posted by phlog
wtf is a drugsand

hahaha

he said drugs "and"

Posted by Abercrombie on Mar-13-2009 15:23:

quote:
Originally posted by urban_legend

My dad used to be a cop and thought me alot of ways to get out of being searched and what my rights are, it has def helped me in the past.

yes, do share!

Posted by urban_legend on Mar-13-2009 16:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
yes, do share!

Well for instance.

I was doin some shroomies, makin some noise outside and my roomie, who was the landlord at the time was upstairs sleeping. Well a cop pulled up and jumped out of his car and rushed towards our house where I was walking up onto the porch. I met him down at the side walk and confronted him to what the problem was, he had mentioned people complained about the noise ( I was across the street at the community centre playing around laughing my ass off).

He asked to come into the house and I said no, he said he wanted to talk to the landlord on the phone, I told him I would go get him that he was upstairs. Now, because I left him at the sidewalk and he had no probable cause to come up to the house since the noise came from the streets. I went to get my landlord and when I had come back down he was now on my porch, uninvited and he found a pipe.

I told him that he had no right to come up on our porch and that the pipe was illegally searched for, myself and my landlord, whos dad happens to be a Ontario court judge basicaslly told this cop that he had no right to be on our property, he tucked his tail between his legs, said that he didnt want to have to come back, stopped shouting and whimpered back into his cop car and drove away.

AND I was on shroomies the whole time. Crazy. I did notice that cops were parked more and more by the house in the community centre across the street watching our house, but whatever.

I have more but maybe leave that for another day.

My dad said cops will trick you into letting them search and as long as you agree in any way it's your own fault and is legal.

If they don't have probable cause they can't do shit.

Posted by Nicolas Oliver on Mar-13-2009 16:32:

quote:
Originally posted by urban_legend
My dad said cops will trick you into letting them search and as long as you agree in any way it's your own fault and is legal.

Definitely. Police will say things like "You don't mind if we take a quick look around [e.g. your car] do you?" and if you agree you have effectively given your consent to be searched.