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Originally posted by RichieV maybe you should ask for your own sub forum. Although in your defence, you are really the only thing that is keeping me here so long this time. I usually pop in and out for a week every few months. ok my last attempt and then i give up "Higher latency will have a better audio quality no matter what the setup" this is wrong, it is illogical and if it was something a psychiatrist had previous knowledge in , he would start probing you for schizophrenia because you are displaying some overt symptoms.

Do you have a test that shows a correlation between higher latency and audio quality deterioration.

I suppose a CPU going just fast enough to render the audio perfectly, will also cause quality deterioration if the CPU was faster?

The only thing you have going for your argument is that lower latency makes the sound come out faster. I don't recall any algorithms where 'Speed = Quality'. Infact, in general, the longer something is allowed to process a thing, in general the higher the quality.

If anything, your argument proves that going above what is needed is redundant. Which is absolutely equal to "it doesn't matter what it is once it is passed a certain threshold"

Debating with you guys is funny because your logic is just BOOM, BLAM, KERPOW, SHERSPLAT, ALL OVER THE PLACE!!! :P

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Originally posted by cronodevir Do you have a test that shows a correlation between higher latency and audio quality deterioration. I suppose a CPU going just fast enough to render the audio perfectly, will also cause quality deterioration if the CPU was faster? The only thing you have going for your argument is that lower latency makes the sound come out faster. I don't recall any algorithms where 'Speed = Quality'. Infact, in general, the longer something is allowed to process a thing, in general the higher the quality. If anything, your argument proves that going above what is needed is redundant. Which is absolutely equal to "it doesn't matter what it is once it is passed a certain threshold" ] :P

remember 5 posts ago when i mentioned that audio quality and latency have absolutely nothing to do with each other? Please just reread that one more time. Now reread the post you just made and feel free to edit.

I'm not sure you really understand what i'm arguing. Instead of stating it again, perhaps you could tell me what you think i'm arguing and maybe we could take it from there.

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Originally posted by RichieV remember 5 posts ago when i mentioned that audio quality and latency have absolutely nothing to do with each other? Please just reread that one more time. Now reread the post you just made and feel free to edit.

He is above facts and truths, they dont matter to him.

He could probably argue that the second world war did not exist since you have not been there to witness it. etc etc etc

it is more the resoning he uses i find so god damn facinating. Like if you were to meet a real life KKK member and actually get the chance to listen to him speak. To hear someone say such silly things and the resoning behind them in such a civil manner.

I can't turn away. I'm convinced he has some sort of lesion in whatever part of the brain deals with logic and reasoning.

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Originally posted by RichieV it is more the resoning he uses i find so god damn facinating. Like if you were to meet a real life KKK member and actually get the chance to listen to him speak. To hear someone say such silly things and the resoning behind them in such a civil manner. I can't turn away. I'm convinced he has some sort of lesion in whatever part of the brain deals with logic and reasoning.

Yeah i agree about that.

I guess it could be something in the lines of If you really believe it strongly enough it becomes reality

Come on chrono. come on. latency isn't that difficult to understand.

Toasting in an epic bread.

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Originally posted by RichieV audio quality and latency have absolutely nothing to do with each other

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Originally posted by RichieV high latency has a benifit because you have a soundcard that can't handle lower latencies.

If going from 0 latency to 512, and removing clicks and pops isn't "better audio quality"...then what is it? And in terms of audio quality, how does going from 512-2048 lower it again?

Let me summarize what you guys said or implied:

1. Low latency has 0 effect on quality.

2. High latency has 0 effect on quality.

3. Low latency causes bad quality on low end sound cards.

4. High latency increases the quality on low end sound cards.

5. Higher than needed latency reduces quality on any card.

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I have to be honest, Ive never seen such an organized group of people out of touch with logic.

Like Diginut who believes specifically bouncing to wav is faster than hitting one freeze button. It confounds the mind!

I feel like a Calicoat Cat meeting and group of Siamese Cats for the first time and everyone is like "wtf?" Understanding you guys points is actually intriguing now. It seems like your not just trolling.

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Originally posted by cronodevir If going from 0 latency to 512, and removing clicks and pops isn't "better audio quality"...then what is it? And in terms of audio quality, how does going from 512-2048 lower it again? Let me summarize what you guys said or implied: 1. Low latency has 0 effect on quality. 2. High latency has 0 effect on quality. 3. Low latency causes bad quality on low end sound cards. 4. High latency increases the quality on low end sound cards. 5. Higher than needed latency reduces quality on any card. ---- I have to be honest, Ive never seen such an organized group of people out of touch with logic. Like Diginut who believes specifically bouncing to wav is faster than hitting one freeze button. It confounds the mind! I feel like a Calicoat Cat meeting and group of Siamese Cats for the first time and everyone is like "wtf?" Understanding you guys points is actually intriguing now. It seems like your not just trolling.

Fail

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I think Cronodevir might be right after all.

I did an test where i tested both 512 and 2048 latency settings on the soundcard.

The difference was huge, check the samples.

2048 sample

512 sample

Shiiit!

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Originally posted by cronodevir Like Diginut who believes specifically bouncing to wav is faster than hitting one freeze button. It confounds the mind!

He is probably talking about offline processing, different than bouncing.

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Originally posted by Subtle I think Cronodevir might be right after all. I did an test where i tested both 512 and 2048 latency settings on the soundcard. The difference was huge, check the samples. 2048 sample 512 sample Shiiit!

lol

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Originally posted by Subtle I think Cronodevir might be right after all. I did an test where i tested both 512 and 2048 latency settings on the soundcard. The difference was huge, check the samples. 2048 sample 512 sample Shiiit!

Who is talking about wav or mp3 renders?

I had a p4 D 3.0Ghz too, upgraded to a quad core 9450 and never looked back, I still max it out but can actually finish tracks now by doing abit of audio bouncing, I do like the look of those dedicated FX cards that come with dedicated reverbs like the dreamverb, �500 + though :/

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