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Originally posted by Lira It doesn't!? Then what would you say if a really passive aggressive person (for example) learned to deal with her frustrations and became a more understanding (and direct) person?

But those are learned behaviours to begin with. I'm talking about the elements of our personalities that are innate - and I do believe there is a side to all of us that is unlearned.

I would definitely agree that one can "change" in the sense that they can unlearn undesirable behaviours (which is exactly what I said in the first place). But again, I don't think that changes their elementary personality.

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Originally posted by Lira If you think maturity is all about stressing the right parts of our behaviour (that's what I get from what you're saying now), and this doesn't count as changing, fine; but, what does, then? If you think people don't change, then surely you can think of a(n impossible) way people can change, right?

No, I don't think people change, lol. They modify their behaviours, but they don't inherently change.

you know, i must say that i was surprised at how well jenny and i liked each other/got along.

i never in a million years would have thought i would love that chick as much as i do.

I don't mean to get all gay on you, but I really like you.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Big Tits McJew

ps whats with all of this philosophy shit, more cancer!

I think Sara retired. She moved back to Poland with Ania.

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Originally posted by Renzo I think Sara retired. She moved back to Poland with Ania.

pic related

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Originally posted by jennypie But those are learned behaviours to begin with. I'm talking about the elements of our personalities that are innate - and I do believe there is a side to all of us that is unlearned. I would definitely agree that one can "change" in the sense that they can unlearn undesirable behaviours (which is exactly what I said in the first place). But again, I don't think that changes their elementary personality.

... which is? Just give me one elementary/innate trait, so to speak, I want to understand what you're trying to get at.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard That's just a change of behaviour though... has the real person actually changed?

If our behaviour is a part of us, and it changed, have we not changed along with it?

So you think that all we are as people is a sum of learned behaviours? That's pretty boring.

it is possible for behaviour to be an act of necessity. (ie work, responsibilities and such). At the core i think it is possible to act different but still not have changed a bit.

ps this thread sucks now stop it.

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Originally posted by jennypie So you think that all we are as people is a sum of learned behaviours? That's pretty boring.

That and genetics have far more evidence than you hippy astrology 'inner self' crap.

And what does genetics do but predetermine who we are and how we'll act?

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mental illness, addictive traits are said to be influenced by gentics, so although i don't subscribe to hal's theory it isn't completely wrong.

I didn't say it was wrong.

"Blood will out."

Point is, modern psychology largely considers people to be a composite of both their inherited behaviours as well as their learned ones. I don't think there's anything else to it.

actually..jenny. back in the day my dad was a raging pothead/lunatic and would punch holes in the wall and stuff and if you ever met my dad now, you would be like no fucking way. he is the most straight laced, successful, clean-cut ex military type. completely refined and intelligent, funny, etc.... thankfully i never saw that side of him i only know about it because my mom told me and that's why they divorced when i was 2. apparently he went to counselling for a couple of years and went to college after the army and got a great career and traveled, etc...

he's a completely different guy now.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Point is, modern psychology largely considers people to be a composite of both their inherited behaviours as well as their learned ones. I don't think there's anything else to it.

I get that. I don't know why you think I'm arguing otherwise.

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Originally posted by jennypie So you think that all we are as people is a sum of learned behaviours? That's pretty boring.

No, and I'd agree with you, that'd indeed be very boring indeed

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Originally posted by Slylee actually..jenny. back in the day my dad was a raging pothead/lunatic and would punch holes in the wall and stuff and if you ever met my dad now, you would be like no fucking way. he is the most straight laced, successful, clean-cut ex military type. completely refined and intelligent, funny, etc.... thankfully i never saw that side of him i only know about it because my mom told me and that's why they divorced when i was 2. apparently he went to counselling for a couple of years and went to college after the army and got a great career and traveled, etc... he's a completely different guy now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_restructuring

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Originally posted by Lira No, and I'd agree with you, that'd indeed be very boring indeed

Well ffs, stop being such a dick then.





































See what I did there??

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Originally posted by Lira If our behaviour is a part of us, and it changed, have we not changed along with it?

That argument relies on one accepting that behaviour is PART of us as opposed to an outward display intended to illicit a desired response from other people. I believe the latter to be true, which is why our behaviour is so often different depending on the company we are keeping at any given moment.

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Originally posted by jennypie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_restructuring

what do you mean? my dad's thearpy worked?

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Originally posted by jennypie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_restructuring

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andropause

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