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Posted by Joss Weatherby on May-30-2012 07:30:

replicating an infinite reference collimator's optical trickery is harder than it sounds...


Posted by Meat187 on May-30-2012 07:35:

Stop stroking your nerd-penis, Nou.


Posted by Lira on May-30-2012 07:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
replicating an infinite reference collimator's optical trickery is harder than it sounds...

It doesn't sound that easy either, if it makes you feel any better


Posted by Meat187 on May-30-2012 07:44:

I might regret asking, but:

Nou, you are again referring to that ArmA mod you're working on, right? Do you also have a proper job programming? Or are you still in education?


Posted by Lira on May-30-2012 08:01:

I'm pretty sure it's a tool that tricks collies into mating forever with some infinite reference witchcraft. And by IR witchcraft, I mean doggy porn thingy.

I guess.


Posted by Joss Weatherby on May-30-2012 08:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Meat187
I might regret asking, but:

Nou, you are again referring to that ArmA mod you're working on, right? Do you also have a proper job programming? Or are you still in education?



This is Arma related, but not part of my main project, just for fun (doing extremely accurate artillery battery simulation, basically you can learn how to use indirect fire with my system).

My main project and what I hope to end up making money on (but really has cost me way more money so far) is related to radio simulation. Accurately simulating radio devices used by military forces, accessories (like fill devices, GPS units, etc), and their interactions with the environment (real time radio signal loss modeling in a 3D environment).

I was going to school then I stopped to work on this over a year ago, but my business partner kinda went off the deep end (his mom died and he hasn't really been the same since) and things are going slower than I had hoped. I am considering going back to school, probably this fall.

I also have a couple other business ventures that I am considering, but those would require significant capital investment to get started and I can't be arsed to do that right now (and the economy isn't in a place where I think it'd pan out well at the moment).

But yea, living at home sucks, on barely any money, so I gotta figure out what I need to do here pretty soon.


Posted by Joss Weatherby on May-30-2012 08:42:

Arghh fuck this, I can get either the rotational or the lateral translation of the optical point to work, but not both at the same time.

I'm going to bed.


Posted by Mattsanity. on May-30-2012 13:09:



Best comeback ever at 4:00. Australia stand up!


Posted by Meat187 on May-30-2012 18:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
This is Arma related, but not part of my main project, just for fun (doing extremely accurate artillery battery simulation, basically you can learn how to use indirect fire with my system).

My main project and what I hope to end up making money on (but really has cost me way more money so far) is related to radio simulation. Accurately simulating radio devices used by military forces, accessories (like fill devices, GPS units, etc), and their interactions with the environment (real time radio signal loss modeling in a 3D environment).

I was going to school then I stopped to work on this over a year ago, but my business partner kinda went off the deep end (his mom died and he hasn't really been the same since) and things are going slower than I had hoped. I am considering going back to school, probably this fall.

I also have a couple other business ventures that I am considering, but those would require significant capital investment to get started and I can't be arsed to do that right now (and the economy isn't in a place where I think it'd pan out well at the moment).

But yea, living at home sucks, on barely any money, so I gotta figure out what I need to do here pretty soon.


I see. So unfortunately you confirmed what I suspected: You're doing work on a professional level without getting paid for it. I asked because with that radio simulation stuff you started to sound like some of my friends who are communication engineers.
I don't know if it's the lack of some degree / formal education that's holding you back and I won't dish out smart-ass advice here but you should turn this hobby into a job.
And business ventures doesn't sound like the right idea considering you say you live on barely any money.


Posted by Mattsanity. on May-30-2012 21:48:

I can't believe some loser shot Big L.


Posted by EddieZilker on May-30-2012 22:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Mattsanity.
I can't believe some loser shot Big L.



Posted by itsamemario on May-30-2012 23:14:

i think you just broke my mind.


Posted by Sushipunk on May-30-2012 23:22:

Proper LOL'd at this



Posted by EddieZilker on May-30-2012 23:23:

He was shot in a doorway, regarded by close-quarter-battle operators as a fatal funnel.


Posted by Joss Weatherby on May-31-2012 00:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Meat187
I see. So unfortunately you confirmed what I suspected: You're doing work on a professional level without getting paid for it. I asked because with that radio simulation stuff you started to sound like some of my friends who are communication engineers.
I don't know if it's the lack of some degree / formal education that's holding you back and I won't dish out smart-ass advice here but you should turn this hobby into a job.
And business ventures doesn't sound like the right idea considering you say you live on barely any money.



It is a job, but just not one that pays. Nothing is holding me back, in fact I turned down a senior position at the company that produces the platform for which I write this software for because I'd have to give up working on it (because it competes with one of their official partners).

We have a company, and we have a distribution contract for the software, its just not done yet, or in a state that I'd consider good enough for professional use (its been released as a consumer grade product though for Arma2 for almost 2 years now though, just youtube "Arma ACRE" and there are hundreds of videos explaining how to use it or showing it being used in game).

For the military version (for VBS2) we have a lot of stuff that is more complicated than the consumer version, including our own VOIP software since we use Teamspeak3 for the consumer version (which sucks, and I'd like to switch to our own software, but most gaming communities wouldn't take that up).

We were pursuing a round of capital investment during the winter but my business partner who knew most of the people involved in getting us some money to hire a couple more people sorta went AWOL and I haven't taken the time to continue to look into that (spent it developing instead).

It sucks balls not getting paid, but whatever, we don't have too much overhead. The most expensive part is paid for by our distributor, and thats our commercial/developer license for the military version of Arma (VBS2).


Posted by Lira on May-31-2012 01:17:

Nou, wouldn't it be better if you accepted the job and kept coding for a hobby? It's awesome when we can do what we like, but there comes a time we need to do one thing or two we don't like so we can do something awesome later on.

I mean, I hate deadlines, but I need to deal with them in order to keep doing the stuff I love. I've had to take jobs I didn't want because it would slow down my research, but I had to bite the bullet and take them.


Posted by Joss Weatherby on May-31-2012 01:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Nou, wouldn't it be better if you accepted the job and kept coding for a hobby? It's awesome when we can do what we like, but there comes a time we need to do one thing or two we don't like so we can do something awesome later on.

I mean, I hate deadlines, but I need to deal with them in order to keep doing the stuff I love. I've had to take jobs I didn't want because it would slow down my research, but I had to bite the bullet and take them.



Well at that point I had already put a year into the project and I'd be legally obligated NOT to work on it more because it'd be a competing product, so I wasn't too thrilled at the idea of having to throw away all that work. Also from past work experience I know how much it sucks to try and do hobbyist development on the side, especially when its the same thing you are doing at work.

Also the job was in Orlando. Fuck that.


Posted by Lira on May-31-2012 02:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Well at that point I had already put a year into the project and I'd be legally obligated NOT to work on it more because it'd be a competing product, so I wasn't too thrilled at the idea of having to throw away all that work. Also from past work experience I know how much it sucks to try and do hobbyist development on the side, especially when its the same thing you are doing at work.

I see. Still you can try to look on the bright side and...
quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Also the job was in Orlando. Fuck that.

... all right, maybe there's no bright side to this


Posted by Zharen on May-31-2012 02:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
Proper LOL'd at this





Posted by Joss Weatherby on May-31-2012 02:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
I see. Still you can try to look on the bright side and...

... all right, maybe there's no bright side to this


I know 3 other people they contacted for the job and they all turned them down, mainly based on that it was in Florida. Even in this economy no one wants to move there for work!

Actually though I heard they filled the position from within, a guy I know from a Arma community, and another friend of mine took a designer position there (he hates florida too, but really needs the work).

The entire development community for this simulator is very small, everyone knows everyone.


Posted by Moongoose on May-31-2012 07:03:

Theoretical question. If someone (lets say a family member) asks you for help with something and you tell them that the way they are doing it wont work and that theyll make a huge mess of things and suggest another way to solve the problem but they stubbornly refuse to listen and say that they changed their minds that you should go away and that they dont need your help after all and can manage themselves, then after a while they call you back, say that it didnt work and that they made a gigantic mess of it and if you could please come and help clean up the mess, is one still obliged to go and help out or is the "i told you so, clean up your own god damned mess" too rude a thing to say at this point?


Posted by Ian on May-31-2012 07:06:

so close.


Posted by Silky Johnson on May-31-2012 07:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Moongoose
Theoretical question. If someone (lets say a family member) asks you for help with something and you tell them that the way they are doing it wont work and that theyll make a huge mess of things and suggest another way to solve the problem but they stubbornly refuse to listen and say that they changed their minds that you should go away and that they dont need your help after all and can manage themselves, then after a while they call you back, say that it didnt work and that they made a gigantic mess of it and if you could please come and help clean up the mess, is one still obliged to go and help out or is the "i told you so, clean up your own god damned mess" too rude a thing to say at this point?







If there's one thing I learned from the story of The Little Red Hen, it's that you definitely tell people to go fuck themselves when they deserve it.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on May-31-2012 07:43:

walking to work this morning and this cheeky ~7yo girl looks at me and says "you shouldn't smoke". i replied "you shouldn't talk to strangers" as i walked by.

pkc 1
defenceless young child 0

to quote maddox, i am better than your kids.


Posted by Meat187 on May-31-2012 09:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
We have a company, and we have a distribution contract for the software


So basically other people are benefiting from your work but you are not. Sounds like you're getting screwed and love it.
Do whatever you like, but when even Lira (!) tells you to get a proper job something must be wrong.


Oh, and @ smokers: stop defending your disgusting habit and quit already.


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