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Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Apr-05-2013 04:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
So its trite feminist nonsense to suggest that women be more self confident and not conform to a what is still in most parts of the world a male centric and male dominated description of attractiveness?


Nah, it’s probably more a patronising and patriarchal assumption that women are unable to make their own decisions outside this supposed “male description” of attractiveness, or that they do so because of what men want or think. you know who love tits just as much as men? Women. Which you would know, if you actually knew any.

quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Ok, you can call me an idiot all you want, but I will call you a misogynist all I want. Doesn't matter if either is true or false, because this is just a stupid forum, where nothing really will matter either way.


Nothing says “misogynist” like a belief in self-determination. Cretin.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Apr-05-2013 04:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Lews
Every time I remember this, I find it extremely odd. You're a strange bloke.


i won't deny the "strange" part, but what do you mean exactly? it was one area of political thought i hadn't done much on by the time honours rocked around, and i figured some of the more ridiculous stuff would keep me motivated during the long winter of reading and writing.

it was kinda like nou spouting shit on TA. it just keeps you coming back


Posted by Lews on Apr-05-2013 04:47:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
i won't deny the "strange" part, but what do you mean exactly? it was one area of political thought i hadn't done much on by the time honours rocked around, and i figured some of the more ridiculous stuff would keep me motivated during the long winter of reading and writing.

it was kinda like nou spouting shit on TA. it just keeps you coming back


Yeah, I understand that rationale. I wrote an extremely long term paper about political theory and asteroid defense last quarter, because I had to write something and thought a ridiculous thing would keep me motivated lol

I think it's just odd because normally you just post things like cunt this, greedy jew that, and then you can start quoting all this feminist literature at the drop of a hat. You just don't come across in your day-to-day writing like most of the other "academic" people around here, and I find it amusing

No offense intended, of course.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Apr-05-2013 04:51:

Nah its all good, was just curious

Asteroid defence? Lololol!


Posted by Lews on Apr-05-2013 04:54:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
Asteroid defence? Lololol!


Right?

It turned out awfully


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Apr-05-2013 05:29:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
Nah, it’s probably more a patronising and patriarchal assumption that women are unable to make their own decisions outside this supposed “male description” of attractiveness, or that they do so because of what men want or think. you know who love tits just as much as men? Women. Which you would know, if you actually knew any.



Nothing says “misogynist” like a belief in self-determination. Cretin.



This is a pointless argument because its solely based on personal opinion, neither of us being female to boot.

I know girls like breasts, they like having them, I get the power dynamic in gender politics and I know that a view of attractiveness is defined obviously by the ability to draw a mate. The great thing about the human species though is that attractiveness is extremely subjective and varying.

What I am arguing is that if a person has to go so far as to get surgery solely to enhance one of these features then its going too far, and at that point they are doing a disservice to themselves because they are foregoing the fact that there are people out there that might enjoy their breast size (or whatever attribute they may be enhancing) as it is and instead are trying to conform to what they conceive as a social norm that is actually outside the curve of normal attractiveness.

But again, this is pointless. Gender politics is entirely ambiguous for the most part because it is so entirely subjective that personal opinion, personal comfort, and differing cultural expectations make everyone have a varying idea of what is "right".

You are not right, I am not right, all we can do is offer opinions on it, and like I said, neither of us are female so yea, we are both being patriarchal right now.


Posted by Lews on Apr-05-2013 05:36:

Oh, dear.


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Apr-05-2013 05:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Lews
Oh, dear.



Instead of saying shit that has no relevance you could inject your own opinion into the conversation Lews. Or are you afraid that what you might say may not be "right" also and you'd get jumped on as well?

*edit*

Fully expecting the easy way out and you just saying you agree with PKC or something.


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Apr-05-2013 05:45:

PKC instead of calling me a twat or something or just saying I am wrong, show me some empirical evidence to back up your position, which should be easy for you since this is apparently your field.


Posted by Lews on Apr-05-2013 05:46:

It was both wincing and my own opinion. It was me wincing at the logic of your argument.

quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
What I am arguing is that if a person has to go so far as to get surgery solely to enhance one of these features then its going too far, and at that point they are doing a disservice to themselves because they are foregoing the fact that there are people out there that might enjoy their breast size (or whatever attribute they may be enhancing) as it is and instead are trying to conform to what they conceive as a social norm that is actually outside the curve of normal attractiveness.


So women shouldn't do things to make normal men like them, because normal men already like them.

That's the gist of your argument, and it's patronizing and patriarchal and made me wince.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Apr-05-2013 05:50:

dont trust him, cliff. lews rhymes with jews. coincidence? i think not.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Apr-05-2013 05:52:

Guys...we're talking about fake titties... why so deep??


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Apr-05-2013 05:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Lews
So women shouldn't do things to make normal men like them, because normal men already like them.

That's the gist of your argument, and it's patronizing and patriarchal and made me wince.


What?

I am saying that there is a projected image that the bigger the breasts the more attractive a girl is, which is false. That is not representative of society as a whole and so when a girl thinks "I need bigger tits to be attractive" they are being fooled by a stereotype that is not true.

In fact, studies have show (this being the most recent of them) that sexist men tend to like bigger breasts.

What I am saying is dont cut yourself open and shove saline sacks in your chest just because you think more men will like you or find you more attractive if you have bolted on tits.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Apr-05-2013 05:59:

ok now im getting mad. Shut the fuck up. We're talkin titties. be a fuckin man for once and pop a boner.


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Apr-05-2013 06:00:

I could honestly care less about tits. I like asses. Flat white asses.

Actually I'd probably describe myself as an asshole type of guy.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Apr-05-2013 06:03:

both gender's have asses....

just sayin nou.


Posted by Lews on Apr-05-2013 06:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
What?

I am saying that there is a projected image that the bigger the breasts the more attractive a girl is, which is false. That is not representative of society as a whole and so when a girl thinks "I need bigger tits to be attractive" they are being fooled by a stereotype that is not true.

In fact, studies have show (this being the most recent of them) that sexist men tend to like bigger breasts.

What I am saying is dont cut yourself open and shove saline sacks in your chest just because you think more men will like you or find you more attractive if you have bolted on tits.


The logic of your argument dictates that women should do what men like.

You are saying that women shouldn't increase the size of their breasts to make themselves attractive to men because it is not true that men find larger breasts attractive and because men who do find larger breasts attractive are sexists.


Posted by Lira on Apr-05-2013 06:51:

Breasts are like snowflakes: They're all awesome... and really cool.


Posted by Dykes_on_Jay on Apr-05-2013 13:30:

I got stood up today. That has honestly never happened before. Better drink my own piss and take Viagra.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Apr-05-2013 15:52:

only one way to handle this like a man. Go outside her house and throw things at her window while clutching on to a huge bottle of cheap wine.


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Apr-05-2013 16:24:

Two nights ago there was a very drunk man across the street in the park doing Celtic dancing while holding a fifth of something and singing a very out of tune song about his father.


Posted by Lira on Apr-05-2013 19:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Dykes_on_Jay
I got stood up today. That has honestly never happened before. Better drink my own piss and take Viagra.

I've had that happen a long long time ago. I can't say I understand why people do it: If you don't want to go out with a guy, just say it. If you do, go.


Posted by Lagrangian on Apr-05-2013 20:13:

It's a marathon, not a sprint. The fight goes on, Dykes-on-Jay.


Posted by BTG on Apr-06-2013 01:13:

My sister is on the 2nd page of Reddit today...without my help.

missed out on some sweet as karma.


Posted by Dykes_on_Jay on Apr-06-2013 08:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
I've had that happen a long long time ago. I can't say I understand why people do it: If you don't want to go out with a guy, just say it. If you do, go.



On the bright side, with what i saved on buying dinner, I had a good time paying 4 Chinese prostitutes to re-act Bloodsport in it's entirety in my living room. Couldn't find the Blu Ray here...the hookers are actually cheaper.


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