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Posted by stamper on Apr-08-2003 14:42:

CD Protection?

Apparently nowadays, many new cd's are "protected" so that they are not able to be copied. Is there anyway around this or are there any programs that still burn cd's regardless of the protection??

Posted by Geed on Apr-08-2003 16:01:

ya I still managed to rip a copy protected cd with a
program i got, cd copy pro, I think its called....
well it rips them but you get those cracks and pops and skips in the song.... Ya thats when you haveto turn on the error corection all the way and walla it is clear and nice.
by the way I boycot those cd I will not buy a cd with cd protection on it. I think everyone shuld do that, and send those greedy record companies to hell, cause its not the artists who make most of the money on the albums its the record companies....
and so they decided they arent making enough fucking money and pulled this shit out. makes me mad. wll I still have vinyl.
oh and by the way its even agains some law of ownership I think that you can put it on youc comp, Mp3 players and so forth....
but those fat payed bitches probably have good lawyers and found a way areun it.

Posted by RenderedDream on Apr-08-2003 18:41:

i managed to rip a cd with winxp + dvd player + cooledit2.0 i think
in win2k it even didn't read the audio
it's weird..
i even went to cdmediaworldbut couldn't find anything worth
anyone has info please say so

Posted by icedale on Apr-08-2003 23:35:

hm, One of the copy protected cds ,required that you have some codec so you can listen to it. Which was included in the cd. so I installed the codec so the programms can recognise the tracks on the cd and ripped them with audiocatalyst. The tracks were okay apart from one single track(out of the 22!)that had some clicks and pops inside as if it was a badly encoded mp3.
Atb - Dedicated is supposed to be copy protected,but I had no problem playing it in Media Player, ripping it(with audiocatalyst again I think)and burning it on a cd.
You might be able to copy audio cds with Clone CD too.

cheers

Posted by drizzt81 on Apr-09-2003 00:03:

Re: CD Protection?

quote:
Originally posted by mr_stamper
Apparently nowadays, many new cd's are "protected" so that they are not able to be copied. Is there anyway around this or are there any programs that still burn cd's regardless of the protection??

do not buy it. Set the signal, that you are not willing to pay for a DEFECTIVE product.

I mean, do you buy cars that you KNOW are not working the way they should? nope.. so just employ the same reasoning here.

Posted by jonnycarcinogen on Apr-09-2003 04:32:

Re: Re: CD Protection?

quote:
Originally posted by drizzt81
do not buy it. Set the signal, that you are not willing to pay for a DEFECTIVE product.

I mean, do you buy cars that you KNOW are not working the way they should? nope.. so just employ the same reasoning here.

I agree, screw those fucking record companies and their stupid scam. We all know lots of people burn cds for free rather than pay but there are also the ones (like me) who d/l to sample an artist and then go out and buy the cd if they like it. I did hear however, that those cds will play fine with a well-placed marker line on the cd surface; don't know where exactly it goes though.

Posted by tranceman78 on Apr-09-2003 04:44:

you should always use protection

Posted by drizzt81 on Apr-09-2003 04:51:

Re: Re: Re: CD Protection?

quote:
Originally posted by jonnycarcinogen
I agree, screw those fucking record companies and their stupid scam. We all know lots of people burn cds for free rather than pay but there are also the ones (like me) who d/l to sample an artist and then go out and buy the cd if they like it. I did hear however, that those cds will play fine with a well-placed marker line on the cd surface; don't know where exactly it goes though.

I will NOT purchase a defective CD. Simple. I have e-mailed record companies about this, and told them flat out "I am sorry, i really would like to purchase a copy of , but i have realized that it is a defective product, as indicated by the copy-protection label on the case. I hope that in the future you will allow me to purchase working products, so that i can continue to support artists, that I like"

anyway, a google search should find you the info on where to place that mark. I read about it in a german magazine as well.

and lastly: i am buy more vinyl recently, just because that makes a lot more sense to me. I get what i pay for.

Posted by jonnycarcinogen on Apr-09-2003 08:14:

I never would have thought of it like that, but I haven't really put as much thought into the issue as you apparently have. I wouldn't even know what the warning label looks like to be honest. I'm not sure whether this is just being put on cds being released currently or if it's eventually going to be put on old ones too. The last few times I've bought cds I've gotten ones that are a few years old or more and haven't run across anything yet.

Posted by Fandom on Apr-09-2003 08:22:

ok..i've got the solution,but what drizzt's saying makes the most sense of it.
Maybe someday i'll get some technics too and be able to spin some vinyl(my old turntable isnt up for it!)
so, try www.cdfreaks.com ,look in the forums there(do a search on audio protection) and hopefully u'll be able to break those friggin protected cd's(tough to make mp3's out of them though).
the programs are clonce cd(newest version) + clonyxxl or alcohol 120%.
See for yourself there,great site btw.

Posted by jon on Apr-09-2003 08:30:

whats there to stop you running a line from the line out of a audio cd player to the line in of a comp, then making a mp3 of that......

so long as the cd works in the audio player this "advanced" protection is useless!

Posted by drizzt81 on Apr-09-2003 15:42:

quote:
Originally posted by jonsimmonds
whats there to stop you running a line from the line out of a audio cd player to the line in of a comp, then making a mp3 of that......

so long as the cd works in the audio player this "advanced" protection is useless!

but then u only get a low-quality analog copy..

Posted by jon on Apr-09-2003 16:06:

depends on the quality of cd player and cabling i suppose, the weakest like is probabley the soundcard

Posted by drizzt81 on Apr-09-2003 17:15:

quote:
Originally posted by jonsimmonds
depends on the quality of cd player and cabling i suppose, the weakest like is probabley the soundcard

analog copies are inherently inferior to digital ones. The problem is that for CD's you are doing a D/A conversion, sending the signal across a lossy transmission line and then doing a D/A conversion again. all of these will diminuish the quality.

Posted by Fandom on Apr-09-2003 19:07:

Yeah,its like converting an already ripped mp3 into different qualities several times..its gonna sound baad.Well,maybe not that bad in computer speakers but dont try it on hi-end systems/headphones.
but u can try..and see if it works for you.

Posted by Nell on Apr-09-2003 21:14:

well ive got a few and i use the digital out from the player into my sound card and record a wav using some proggy like sound forge. finalyl i encode it using db poweramp with the lame codec