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1200s vs PDT-6000

lookin at buying Gemini PDT-6000 soon just wondering if they are as good as technics because they have a better wow & flutter (pdt6000=.01 1200s=.02 if i remember right) then technics, the torque is also higher it is 3.0 kg/cm and they have a bunch of other features (that will probably never be used)the price looks awesome for all you get ($300 @ pssl.com)
check them out below and go to page 6 for specifications http://www.geminidj.com/manuals/english/11PDT6000e.pdf

correct me if i am wrong but i was under the impression that wow & Flutter was how much the record strays from a certain pitch or speed while spinning

Alot of ppl are gonna hate me for saying this... but yes, technics is loosing its standard in TT's... And they're gonna hate me even more when i say that the gemini is indeed better(but it is true, more features, and higher torque)...

wow i am extremely impressed i didn't expect someone to just come out a say that! thanks for being honest though

hey man whatever floats ur boat....i would still get technics 1200 forever.........

Simple test: Knock on the turntables gently (as if knocking on a door).

If it rings hollow, don't buy it. If it clunks, it may be okay (i.e. very solid Technics).

I too was skeptical about the "Technics or death" type feelings that many DJs expressed here, but THEY ARE WORTH EVERY SINGLE PENNY!

listen man there is no doubt in my mind if i had the money i would buy technics but i do think that people in my situation (sorry bout the speellin i am drunk a fuck) need to have an econmically sound solution and i truly believe that the pdt 600 or even the pt2100 are a sounds solution.. technics if i could afford thats what i would be spinning on but i can't and i like to be creative so i am gonna go for the pdt6000 that out perform the technics.oh and by the way i am almost positive that the pdt6000 are not a plastic frame because they way 36 pounds. fuyck man i'll finsh theis tomorro.peacve out!
-Dj Tasper

Well I'm gonna purchase an new tt one of these days, and I prefer the PTD-6000 over the Technics. I've heard nothing but positive thins about it. It's at least as good as the technics, but waaaay cheaper and with alot more features.

We all need to keep in mind that the technics are a little bit dated... I mean, they were designed in the '70ies... Back then, some of us were still liquid!

for me, its technics for accuracy and lastability.

Well, I have no idea really, but going on everything I've read + having a quick go on them, I am definitely getting Technics

Reason: I want something thats gonna last a whole career if I get good enough to spin out and earn some moolah With Technics you have that guarantee, with Gemini, you don't... as far as I know, Gemini have mainly made low end tables before, correct me if I'm wrong.

I choose Technics solely on the fact that 90% of clubs use Technics. The day they change to Turntable X, is the day I switch too.

is it just me or is everyone's reason for buying technics decks "from what I've read, everyone says get technics"

my preference is technics based on reliability. they are proven to stand the test of time, the gemini isnt.

with that being said, the next thing you have to look for is $$. nobody has said a bad thing about the gemini's (other than they are uncertain how long they will last) and if cost is a major factor, i would say go for those.

when i got my setup, i got...
2 - black Technics 1200 MKII
2 - black individual turntable flight cases
2 - Ortophon Night Club headshells + needles
3 - Sony MDRV700
1 - Pioneer djm500

for $1600, brand new

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Originally posted by Tiger777 We all need to keep in mind that the technics are a little bit dated... I mean, they were designed in the '70ies... Back then, some of us were still liquid!

LMFAO - well put

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Originally posted by Tiger777 We all need to keep in mind that the technics are a little bit dated... I mean, they were designed in the '70ies... Back then, some of us were still liquid!

thats the point - they actually last that long. reliability.

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Originally posted by sektile thats the point - they actually last that long. reliability.

they dont last that long.. that's just when they were designed

I have heard many stories of people that needed to get their 1200's repaired, so I don't believe the reliablility thing. And I have not heard of any huge reliability issues with other brands of tt's either.

Those gemini's look good, I would consider buying later on.

they are by far the most solidly built deck on the market.

Things like reverse play +/- 50 pitch, and all that shite are just gimics. i had the vestax pdx 2000 or what ever they were called and to tell you the truth they felt like playing with toys. I can see that the gemini and numark ones are built in a similar way.

Plus the fact technics keep there value for a lot longer if you ever consider selling them.

i'll agree that alot of the features on the pdt-6000 may not get used alot or at all but if you think about it, who the hell uses special fx in every single song? it would get old and boring. these so called "gimics" are just to spice up your mix whenever you're feelin creative.

"Super high torque direct drive motor assures you of fast starts every time
Torque and brake sensitivity adjustment
BPM/pitch displays
Reverse platter lock
Digital output and a wide pitch control range (+/-4%, 8%, 16% or 35%) for total music control
A slipmat, headshell and removable dustcover are included"

i would hardly consider these gimics and when did it become a sin to get more for less because thats pretty much what it is coming to. the common argument is technics are the best they last forever or everyone uses them. so what, these turntables just came out (less then a year old i beleive) how can you judge them so quickly, give them a chance.

i honestly believe that if gemini raised the price on these turntables to whatever 1200s are selling for then they would get more respect because thats how alot of people work. "gemini makes cheaper products so they must be crap" F-ck That!

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Originally posted by DjTasper i'll agree that alot of the features on the pdt-6000 may not get used alot or at all but if you think about it, who the hell uses special fx in every single song? it would get old and boring. these so called "gimics" are just to spice up your mix whenever you're feelin creative. "Super high torque direct drive motor assures you of fast starts every time Torque and brake sensitivity adjustment BPM/pitch displays Reverse platter lock Digital output and a wide pitch control range (+/-4%, 8%, 16% or 35%) for total music control A slipmat, headshell and removable dustcover are included" i would hardly consider these gimics and when did it become a sin to get more for less because thats pretty much what it is coming to. the common argument is technics are the best they last forever or everyone uses them. so what, these turntables just came out (less then a year old i beleive) how can you judge them so quickly, give them a chance. i honestly believe that if gemini raised the price on these turntables to whatever 1200s are selling for then they would get more respect because thats how alot of people work. "gemini makes cheaper products so they must be crap" F-ck That!

Digital Output doesn't really mean much to me, good luck finding a SPDIF DJ mixer.

To other posters - I decided to follow the advice of every single person that I talked to, all of them DJs. After buying Technics, I now agree 100%, and feel totally confident to recommend them.

the pitch on the technics is dead on accurate, but that doesnt stop me from buying other turntables.

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