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Michael Moore's reaction to the Oscars

I think he is going to have a profound influence on the American people in the coming years. I think that this influence is going to be positive.

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April 7, 2003 My Oscar "Backlash": "Stupid White Men" Back At #1, "Bowling" Breaks New Records Dear friends, It appears that the Bush administration will have succeeded in colonizing Iraq sometime in the next few days. This is a blunder of such magnitude -- and we will pay for it for years to come. It was not worth the life of one single American kid in uniform, let alone the thousands of Iraqis who have died, and my condolences and prayers go out to all of them. So, where are all those weapons of mass destruction that were the pretense for this war? Ha! There is so much to say about all this, but I will save it for later. What I am most concerned about right now is that all of you -- the majority of Americans who did not support this war in the first place -- not go silent or be intimidated by what will be touted as some great military victory. Now, more than ever, the voices of peace and truth must be heard. I have received a lot of mail from people who are feeling a profound sense of despair and believe that their voices have been drowned out by the drums and bombs of false patriotism. Some are afraid of retaliation at work or at school or in their neighborhoods because they have been vocal proponents of peace. They have been told over and over that it is not "appropriate" to protest once the country is at war, and that your only duty now is to "support the troops." Can I share with you what it's been like for me since I used my time on the Oscar stage two weeks ago to speak out against Bush and this war? I hope that, in reading what I'm about to tell you, you'll feel a bit more emboldened to make your voice heard in whatever way or forum that is open to you. When "Bowling for Columbine" was announced as the Oscar winner for Best Documentary at the Academy Awards, the audience rose to its feet. It was a great moment, one that I will always cherish. They were standing and cheering for a film that says we Americans are a uniquely violent people, using our massive stash of guns to kill each other and to use them against many countries around the world. They were applauding a film that shows George W. Bush using fictitious fears to frighten the public into giving him whatever he wants. And they were honoring a film that states the following: The first Gulf War was an attempt to reinstall the dictator of Kuwait; Saddam Hussein was armed with weapons from the United States; and the American government is responsible for the deaths of a half-million children in Iraq over the past decade through its sanctions and bombing. That was the movie they were cheering, that was the movie they voted for, and so I decided that is what I should acknowledge in my speech. And, thus, I said the following from the Oscar stage: "On behalf of our producers Kathleen Glynn and Michael Donovan (from Canada), I would like to thank the Academy for this award. I have invited the other Documentary nominees on stage with me. They are here in solidarity because we like non-fiction. We like non-fiction because we live in fictitious times. We live in a time where fictitious election results give us a fictitious president. We are now fighting a war for fictitious reasons. Whether it's the fiction of duct tape or the fictitious 'Orange Alerts,' we are against this war, Mr. Bush. Shame on you, Mr. Bush, shame on you. And, whenever you've got the Pope and the Dixie Chicks against you, your time is up." Halfway through my remarks, some in the audience started to cheer. That immediately set off a group of people in the balcony who started to boo. Then those supporting my remarks started to shout down the booers. The L. A. Times reported that the director of the show started screaming at the orchestra "Music! Music!" in order to cut me off, so the band dutifully struck up a tune and my time was up. (For more on why I said what I said, you can read the op-ed I wrote for the L.A. Times, plus other reaction from around the country at my website) The next day -- and in the two weeks since -- the right-wing pundits and radio shock jocks have been calling for my head. So, has all this ruckus hurt me? Have they succeeded in "silencing" me? Well, take a look at my Oscar "backlash": -- On the day after I criticized Bush and the war at the Academy Awards, attendance at "Bowling for Columbine" in theaters around the country went up 110% (source: Daily Variety/BoxOfficeMojo.com). The following weekend, the box office gross was up a whopping 73% (Variety). It is now the longest-running consecutive commercial release in America, 26 weeks in a row and still thriving. The number of theaters showing the film since the Oscars has INCREASED, and it has now bested the previous box office record for a documentary by nearly 300%. -- Yesterday (April 6), "Stupid White Men" shot back to #1 on the New York Times bestseller list. This is my book's 50th week on the list, 8 of them at number one, and this marks its fourth return to the top position, something that virtually never happens. -- In the week after the Oscars, my website was getting 10-20 million hits A DAY (one day we even got more hits than the White House!). The mail has been overwhelmingly positive and supportive (and the hate mail has been hilarious!). -- In the two days following the Oscars, more people pre-ordered the video for "Bowling for Columbine" on Amazon.com than the video for the Oscar winner for Best Picture, "Chicago." -- In the past week, I have obtained funding for my next documentary, and I have been offered a slot back on television to do an updated version of "TV Nation"/ "The Awful Truth." I tell you all of this because I want to counteract a message that is told to us all the time -- that, if you take a chance to speak out politically, you will live to regret it. It will hurt you in some way, usually financially. You could lose your job. Others may not hire you. You will lose friends. And on and on and on. Take the Dixie Chicks. I'm sure you've all heard by now that, because their lead singer mentioned how she was ashamed that Bush was from her home state of Texas, their record sales have "plummeted" and country stations are boycotting their music. The truth is that their sales are NOT down. This week, after all the attacks, their album is still at #1 on the Billboard country charts and, according to Entertainment Weekly, on the pop charts during all the brouhaha, they ROSE from #6 to #4. In the New York Times, Frank Rich reports that he tried to find a ticket to ANY of the Dixie Chicks' upcoming concerts but he couldn't because they were all sold out. (To read Rich's column from yesterday's Times, "Bowling for Kennebunkport," go here. He does a pretty good job of laying it all out and talks about my next film and the impact it could potentially have.) Their song, "Travelin' Soldier" (a beautiful anti-war ballad) was the most requested song on the internet last week. They have not been hurt at all -- but that is not what the media would have you believe. Why is that? Because there is nothing more important now than to keep the voices of dissent -- and those who would dare to ask a question -- SILENT. And what better way than to try and take a few well-known entertainers down with a pack of lies so that the average Joe or Jane gets the message loud and clear: "Wow, if they would do that to the Dixie Chicks or Michael Moore, what would they do to little ol' me?" In other words, shut the f--- up. And that, my friends, is the real point of this film that I just got an Oscar for -- how those in charge use FEAR to manipulate the public into doing whatever they are told. Well, the good news -- if there can be any good news this week -- is that not only have neither I nor others been silenced, we have been joined by millions of Americans who think the same way we do. Don't let the false patriots intimidate you by setting the agenda or the terms of the debate. Don't be defeated by polls that show 70% of the public in favor of the war. Remember that these Americans being polled are the same Americans whose kids (or neighbor's kids) have been sent over to Iraq. They are scared for the troops and they are being cowed into supporting a war they did not want -- and they want even less to see their friends, family, and neighbors come home dead. Everyone supports the troops returning home alive and all of us need to reach out and let their families know that. Unfortunately, Bush and Co. are not through yet. This invasion and conquest will encourage them to do it again elsewhere. The real purpose of this war was to say to the rest of the world, "Don't Mess with Texas - If You Got What We Want, We're Coming to Get It!" This is not the time for the majority of us who believe in a peaceful America to be quiet. Make your voices heard. Despite what they have pulled off, it is still our country. Yours, Michael Moore

Bowling for Columbine is my best 10$ investment in Cinema

Cool, I'm getting like 5 copies of that movie just to lend to friends when it comes out! Best movie of the millenium so far!

The dumbass still thinks that most of America was against the war despite polls before the war showing the majority of Americans were FOR the war and durign the war when the majority of Americans were still FOR the war.

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Originally posted by occrider The dumbass still thinks that most of America was against the war despite polls before the war showing the majority of Americans were FOR the war and durign the war when the majority of Americans were still FOR the war.

Actually, the majority of Americans were against unilateral war, and wanted to act through the UN. That was according to pre-war polls. It was actually an overwhelming majority.

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Originally posted by cougar23 Actually, the majority of Americans were against unilateral war, and wanted to act through the UN. That was according to pre-war polls. It was actually an overwhelming majority.

My source is gallup ... what's yours?

Here are all the gallup polls:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/specialR...es/sr030224.asp

you can either pay $95 to subscribe or you can do a search for past posts that I made with respects to this topic where I actually cut and paste the poll results.

Which gallup poll? I see one on their site that has support for the war at 72%. The interesting part of this is that 70.74% who responded with a political viewpoint said "conservative." That's a little bit biased, then, isn't it? If you have a link to a real one, please show me.

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Originally posted by cougar23 Which gallup poll? I see one on their site that has support for the war at 72%. The interesting part of this is that 70.74% who responded with a political viewpoint said "conservative." That's a little bit biased, then, isn't it? If you have a link to a real one, please show me.

Sorry dude I'm quite lazy Anyway I don't have much time to responed now but if you do a search for gallup polls and look up my name, I posted a lot of poll results that showed that the majority of America was for the war ... even before the war started.

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Originally posted by occrider Sorry dude I'm quite lazy Anyway I don't have much time to responed now but if you do a search for gallup polls and look up my name, I posted a lot of poll results that showed that the majority of America was for the war ... even before the war started.

Mmm not majority was for war before war, that changed just weeks before war.

Nope before the war started the majority was FOR the war. If you have statistics to contradict me than by all means please post them.

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Originally posted by occrider My source is gallup ... what's yours?

My source was TIME, CNN, AOL, and NBC.

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Originally posted by occrider Nope before the war started the majority was FOR the war. If you have statistics to contradict me than by all means please post them.

I will look for the statistics. And by the way, those statistics that you have come since March 22nd, IM referring to the graphic thing, if theres something else in there that you were referring to, I'd be happy to know. I know that the majority was against the war, and when Bush came on TV that one night, when he adressed the nation, I remember that the support tours him for a war, rose, but there was still a majority against it. As time went by, and getting closer to war, the Americans accepted it even more. This was all before March 22nd though..

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I found this on AOL, here it shows it's 50-50.

What you told us in recent polls

Results Updated 5:00 PM ET February 11, 2003
76%..... Feel the evidence against Iraq presented by Colin Powell was convincing
49%..... Rate their level of support for war on Iraq as strong*
65%..... Fear that war with Iraq would prompt terrorism
54%..... Pick the WTC design by Daniel Libeskind over the THINK plans
61%..... Would prefer a different WTC design over the two finalists
40%..... Tag Osama as a bigger threat than Saddam or Kim Jong Il*
81%..... Agree that Saddam is working with al-Qaida
69%..... Think the recent biography of Michael Jackson treated him fairly
42%..... Describe Michael Jackson as disturbing*
58%..... Say that 'Joe Millionaire' is the best reality TV show
74%..... Want Evan to choose Zora on 'Joe Millionaire'
59%..... Still pick Ryan as the man for 'The Bachelorette'

*the highest percentage in the poll

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Originally posted by LiquidX I will look for the statistics. And by the way, those statistics that you have come since March 22nd, IM referring to the graphic thing, if theres something else in there that you were referring to, I'd be happy to know. I know that the majority was against the war, and when Bush came on TV that one night, when he adressed the nation, I remember that the support tours him for a war, rose, but there was still a majority against it. As time went by, and getting closer to war, the Americans accepted it even more. This was all before March 22nd though.. *EDIT* I found this on AOL, here it shows it's 50-50. What you told us in recent polls Results Updated 5:00 PM ET February 11, 2003 76%..... Feel the evidence against Iraq presented by Colin Powell was convincing 49%..... Rate their level of support for war on Iraq as strong* 65%..... Fear that war with Iraq would prompt terrorism 54%..... Pick the WTC design by Daniel Libeskind over the THINK plans 61%..... Would prefer a different WTC design over the two finalists 40%..... Tag Osama as a bigger threat than Saddam or Kim Jong Il* 81%..... Agree that Saddam is working with al-Qaida 69%..... Think the recent biography of Michael Jackson treated him fairly 42%..... Describe Michael Jackson as disturbing* 58%..... Say that 'Joe Millionaire' is the best reality TV show 74%..... Want Evan to choose Zora on 'Joe Millionaire' 59%..... Still pick Ryan as the man for 'The Bachelorette' *the highest percentage in the poll

Well this is the gallup poll results that I posted a while ago:

It would be a good article except for the fact that this guy's information is innaccurate. He should have checked the latest Gallup polls for his data:

Overall, 66% of Americans approve of Bush's decision to go to war unless Saddam Hussein leaves Iraq within 48 hours, while 30% disapprove.

By a similar margin, 68% to 28%, Americans also say that the United States has done all it can do to solve the crisis with Iraq diplomatically.

A quick reaction poll by CNN/USA Today and Gallup finds more than 2-to-1 support for that ultimatum.

One fault I find in your source is that the poll labels the support for the IRaqi war is STRONG as opposed to support in general.

I remember reading a poll around late February that put support for the war at 30 some percent. It said that the overwhelming majority of Americans thought we shoudn't go to war unilateraly, and stick with the UN plan. And I found it in many reputable publications, too. Does anyone remember which one I'm talking about? I wish i could find it now, but knowing the Bush administration, they probably ordered the media to shred all evidence of that poll.

let's go back to our original topic please


Michael Moore is my idole , i love this guy and i admire how he got the balls to stand up and prove how much america is full of dumb people and gun admirers , keep it up mister Moore and you're welcome to live in Canada anytime

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Originally posted by fastmp3 let's go back to our original topic please Michael Moore is my idole , i love this guy and i admire how he got the balls to stand up and prove how much america is full of dumb people and gun admirers , keep it up mister Moore and you're welcome to live in Canada anytime

this fat fuck is plainly just a joker. for goodness's sakes, stop bitching you fat fuc|
(message directed at that greasy, fat fuck moore)

>JM<

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Originally posted by JM this fat fuck is plainly just a joker. for goodness's sakes, stop bitching you fat ******, get the fuck off your ass and do something constructive with your life (lose some weight; also a healthy reminder) instead of coming out with ignorant statements. (message directed at that greasy, fat fuck moore) >JM<

werd...this dumbshit is so disillusional it's not even funny...and to the one who said this moron
was gonna have a "positive" influence on us...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
it'll be the end of america if that ever happens

Moore is less.

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Originally posted by JM this fat fuck is plainly just a joker. for goodness's sakes, stop bitching you fat fuc| (message directed at that greasy, fat fuck moore) >JM<

Boy, it takes a whole lot of IQ to come up with the keen observations you just made. Maybe if you stopped cursing so much, you'd attract more girls, and finally get to have sex. Then you wouldn't be so frustrated about people being fat!

Get a fucking life, man.

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Originally posted by TuanAnh213 it'll be the end of america if that ever happens

Thats exactly the positive influence

JM and Tuan are plain dumbs , they're judging the guy cuz he's fat , well i say why don't you steal your uncle's gun and shoot him ?

michael moore is so gay, and FAT. He think he's got the power to do shit.....gosh i hate people like that. I wanna bitch-slap that son of a bitch.

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Originally posted by deejay2002 michael moore is so gay, and FAT. He think he's got the power to do shit.....gosh i hate people like that. I wanna bitch-slap that son of a bitch.

He does have the power to do shit. A lot of people connect with him, and know what he's talking about. His book is a bestseller. "Bowling for Columbine" is awesome even from a neutral standpoint. You should see it sometime, I'd bet you'd like it.

Lemme ask you something: Is Rush Limbaugh gay and a son of a bitch just because he's fat, too? At least Michael Moore doesn't have his followers call themselves "dittoheads." What a bunch of sheep.

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