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The problem with the american government

In my opinion there are certain key problems with the united states.
Supposed freedom.... In my opinion one should be allowed to do whatever he or she wants as long as it has no effect on others. This is not the case in the US, instead we are subjected to a rather christian breed of morals

Most importantly is the fact that US politics is controlled by the rich. For instance, one can see this quite clearly if you look at the level of spending that goes into electoral campaigns. Politics are a rich mans game and because of this the interests of the rich are the drive behind most of the governments polices.

Am i the only American that wishes for a government that truly works for the good of the people?

im ready to get flamed
btw despite living overseas i am an american so this is not some kind of american bashing

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Most importantly is the fact that US politics is controlled by the rich.

This goes for almost (if not every) country in the world mate. :/

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Supposed freedom.... In my opinion one should be allowed to do whatever he or she wants as long as it has no effect on others

Haha, I'd like that. Would be great if the system worked like that. *puff*

- Well, I think that the way the representaives in the US government don't represent the people, since like 98% are whites and males, there, they don't represent the different ethnics groups, so they aren't able to understand them. The whites will end up been the minority, but, the representaives are all whites.. so I think that should change gradually. Also, more then half the senates are millionairs. And yes, they are majority rich and such. I think that governments in every country, their liders are rich somehow, depending on who supports them, the companies and stuff, they are influenced by it.

I agree

exactly! and i blame this for most of the problems in the world today. cant really see the rich relinquishing power any time soon and thats why im red to the bone

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Originally posted by robstar This goes for almost (if not every) country in the world mate. :/

Not Canada, where campaign finance reform is a paradigm of success. Of course, I'm sure the rich still have some say, but not quite as much. Bravo on that universal health care, friends up north.

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Originally posted by LiquidX - Well, I think that the way the representaives in the US government don't represent the people, since like 98% are whites and males, there, they don't represent the different ethnics groups, so they aren't able to understand them. The whites will end up been the minority, but, the representaives are all whites.. so I think that should change gradually. Also, more then half the senates are millionairs. And yes, they are majority rich and such. I think that governments in every country, their liders are rich somehow, depending on who supports them, the companies and stuff, they are influenced by it.

Hmmmm....Condoleeza Rice and Colin Powell are black, and they are in two of the Bush administration's most powerfull positions. I can't think of any other significant politicians in Canada or Europe that are of minority.

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Originally posted by drewfactor Hmmmm....Condoleeza Rice and Colin Powell are black, and they are in two of the Bush administration's most powerfull positions. I can't think of any other significant politicians in Canada or Europe that are of minority.

I know, Im talking about the percentage they belong to, and Im basically referring to the representatives of the people, such as the House of Representaives and Senate. The jobs of Condoleeza Rice and Colin Powell is other then representing the people. Even so, they belong to the very low percentage of ethnic representatives.

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Originally posted by LiquidX - Well, I think that the way the representaives in the US government don't represent the people, since like 98% are whites and males, there, they don't represent the different ethnics groups, so they aren't able to understand them. The whites will end up been the minority, but, the representaives are all whites.. so I think that should change gradually. Also, more then half the senates are millionairs. And yes, they are majority rich and such. I think that governments in every country, their liders are rich somehow, depending on who supports them, the companies and stuff, they are influenced by it.

There are 121 members of the House of Representative who are women or minority. Out of a total of 435 members that constitutes a little over 27% of congress. So to correct your statistic, only 73% are white and males . When looking into the population according to the 2000 census, whites constitute 75.1% of the population so maybe congress isn't as underrepresented as most think. Actually the most underrepresented group in congress is oddly enough asian-americans.

how about religious proportions in the congress

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Originally posted by drewfactor Hmmmm....Condoleeza Rice and Colin Powell are black, and they are in two of the Bush administration's most powerfull positions. I can't think of any other significant politicians in Canada or Europe that are of minority.

in the US minorities means black. In Canada it means French. The current Prime minister is French and important ministers are held by French.

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Originally posted by ahlamalek how about religious proportions in the congress

We live in a secular society, religion has no place in government

ROFL

tell that to your president

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Originally posted by ahlamalek in the US minorities means black. In Canada it means French. The current Prime minister is French and important ministers are held by French.

BTW, you're just a little too proud of having letters after your name...

Outside of the major metropolitan centres, it's whitey-white. That struck me as strange the last time I went shopping at my in-laws who live up North. I was planning moving to the country when I 'get old' (over 30) but how can I expose my children to Canada's multicultural mosaic?

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Originally posted by ahlamalek ROFL tell that to your president

What the president lacks in, the constitution more than compensates for, and I have confidence that the supreme court will make the right decisions. They're even challenging the pledge of allegiance to remove the part where it says "one nation, under God". So yes we strive for a secular government.

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Originally posted by Wurm BTW, you're just a little too proud of having letters after your name...

?? they're there only for one purpose... for some one in particular.

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Outside of the major metropolitan centres, it's whitey-white. That struck me as strange the last time I went shopping at my in-laws who live up North. I was planning moving to the country when I 'get old' (over 30) but how can I expose my children to Canada's multicultural mosaic?

but whats your point? its like that all over Canada. Minorities don't live in rural areas... Canada is not a melting pot, everyone is encouraged to keep his/her cultur. How do you want to keep your cultur if you're the only indian/chinese/spanish/arabic/etc in a small village?

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Originally posted by occrider There are 121 members of the House of Representative who are women or minority. Out of a total of 435 members that constitutes a little over 27% of congress. So to correct your statistic, only 73% are white and males . When looking into the population according to the 2000 census, whites constitute 75.1% of the population so maybe congress isn't as underrepresented as most think. Actually the most underrepresented group in congress is oddly enough asian-americans.

I was also basing on the Senate. Are you sure that only 73% are white males?!?!

And the white population according to the 2000 census is 71.8% to be exact.
I was just going over this on my government class, I remember seen that the whites in the Seante are up in the 90's%. We went over religious means, womans, and so on. Im quite sure that the House and Seante are constructed of around 90% or more. If I could get my hands on that chart I'll come back.

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Originally posted by LiquidX I was also basing on the Senate. Are you sure that only 73% are white males?!?! And the white population according to the 2000 census is 71.8% to be exact. I was just going over this on my government class, I remember seen that the whites in the Seante are up in the 90's%. We went over religious means, womans, and so on. Im quite sure that the House and Seante are constructed of around 90% or more. If I could get my hands on that chart I'll come back.

I'll post links to where I got my data later ... I have to find them again, but for now I have to do my taxes

WOOHOO!!!!! $900 back in TAXES!!!! There is NOTHING wrong with the US government!!!!

Except the bastards tried to take more than they deserved ....

hahah talking about tax returns I got 10.13$ from the Federal govt and 10.13$ from the Provincial govt. Minus the 20$ I paid to the accountant to do my paperwork, a net return of 26 cents!!!

I think I'll call the BMW dealership now

P.S. Shit I forgot I paid postage too...

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Originally posted by ahlamalek but whats your point? its like that all over Canada. Minorities don't live in rural areas... Canada is not a melting pot, everyone is encouraged to keep his/her cultur. How do you want to keep your cultur if you're the only indian/chinese/spanish/arabic/etc in a small village?

Just illustrating the point to those unfamiliar with Canada. In my trips to America, I have been startled at the amount of poor rural minorities (which are really world majority people.)

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