Kompulsor - Cassiopeia [w/samples for remixing!]

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Posted by Eugene on Apr-19-2003 23:46:

Kompulsor - Cassiopeia [w/samples for remixing!]

I wrote a new track called "Cassiopeia":
Kompulsor - Cassiopeia.mp3

Please evaluate.

NEW: See below for the source samples, if you want to remix.

Right now it's 6:08 (can be made longer if needed), a bit on the hard side.

thanks

Posted by allstar on Apr-20-2003 00:17:

oooh, that some delicious tunnel trance force style action there!

It's not really my thing, but I can appreciate that as a pretty decent track!

Although, some reverb is needed in places, especially the vocal..
Perhaps some delay also.

I think also, some work on that main lead synth maybe, it sounds a bit flat.

The track has a nice solid feel to it. Good stuff

Posted by TOR on Apr-20-2003 10:45:

not really my style, but it seems like a fairly good track. it's rather empty indeed, but it has potential..

Posted by metricks on Apr-20-2003 10:55:

nice underground!

very party style this track! Casssiopeia goes along the rithms of party style! Nice Work!

Posted by Eugene on Apr-20-2003 22:58:

thanks for the responses so far, guys

The vocal sample wasn't top-quality to begin with (to put it mildly), I did my best with it -- applied some reverb, compression, flanger fx, etc. but it still sounds pretty amateurish..

The main problem I see with the track is that lead-synth sample. It does have reverb, but I think it's slightly off-key, and also when I was changing its pitch to form the melody, the top notes came out way too short -- that's what happens when you try to "warp" a single .WAV sample. If anyone has suggestions on the lead-synth let me know...

And indeed, I've always had this 'empty' thing about my tracks ever since I started producing, filling them up is something I have to work on, but it's not easy... I thought the string pads in the background would do the trick ('cause they make a track "fuller"), but even that didn't help much...

BTW, If someone who likes hardstyle/commercial-style trance (e.g. Pulsedriver, Axel Konrad, Ole van Dansk) would like to collaborate or remix this, I'd be more than happy to provide all the files...

Posted by nic01445 on Apr-21-2003 03:38:

I'll remix! haven't been able to hear it yet, but i have nothing to do. send me teh files!

Posted by DJ Fin on Apr-21-2003 09:39:

email me at [email protected] to let me know how to acquire the files from you for remixing and reworking

I'll be happy to work on it myself and to offer it to other DJs I know in Chicago, IL, USA

Posted by 8Wonders on Apr-21-2003 12:44:

There's a number of ways to give your track depth.

Give each synth its own spectral space, or atleast try to group the synths that sound similar in sound. To accomplish this, you'll have to do it either via stereo enhancers, chorus, flangers or reverb.

Posted by Eugene on Apr-21-2003 23:12:

Remixing Materials

All right guys, have fun
Source samples for Kompulsor - Cassiopeia
NOTE: Everything at 140 BPM!

VOCALS

Moaning girl: girlmoan.wav
"Cassiopeia": voc_cass.wav (this sample is plain and low-quality, so some enhancers/filters need to be applied)

BASS: bass.wav (this is a C5-note)

SAWTOOTH BASS SYNTH

sawbass.wav (single sample)
sawbassline.wav

"EXCITER" SYNTH

LEAD SYNTH

lead_rawsample.wav (this is an original, "raw" C-note of the lead synth - everything is based on this. I suspect it's a little bit off-key.)
leadline1.wav
leadline2.wav
leadline3.wav
leadline4.wav

USEFUL DRUMS

pjotrkick.wavPjotr G's powerful Kick! (thanks Pjotr )
shaker.wav

The rest you'll probably get yourself (incl. strings, other drums..) in a better version than me.

But of course, if you need anything else - let me know!

Have fun, play around, add stuff and fx -- in short, enjoy!

And let me know

Posted by Nik Novo on Apr-21-2003 23:35:

sounds nice, but a little more variety would have been nice..

i'd like to make a remix, but i would need the midis of the mellows. got 'em? would be nice =)

you can download my remixes on www.djnge.de ... i can also give you the links for the "original" songs, if you like to, so that you can see what i made of the original song.

Posted by Eugene on Apr-21-2003 23:49:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ NGE
i'd like to make a remix, but i would need the midis of the mellows. got 'em? would be nice =)

sure, but I don't know how to export to MIDI in FruityLoops
when I select a pattern and do Save As -> MIDI, it outputs a zero-K (empty) MIDI file

Posted by Nik Novo on Apr-21-2003 23:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Eugene
sure, but I don't know how to export to MIDI in FruityLoops
when I select a pattern and do Save As -> MIDI, it outputs a zero-K (empty) MIDI file

ah, you did that with fruity loops? not bad

hmm, not good... are the waves at least only the notes (like in a midi)? if so, i could perhaps convert them somehow...

btw. who's that nice lady in your avatar? =)

Posted by Eugene on Apr-21-2003 23:55:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ NGE

hmm, not good... are the waves at least only the notes (like in a midi)? if so, i could perhaps convert them somehow...

btw. who's that nice lady in your avatar? =)

some girl from Denmark
they got some really nice girls there!

about MIDIs: I'll see what I can do and get back with any news.

Posted by Nik Novo on Apr-21-2003 23:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Eugene
some girl from Denmark
they got some really nice girls there!

about MIDIs: I'll see what I can do and get back with any news.

hehe
we have nice girls in germany too...

ok, thx, you can also send me a pm

i'll get to bed now.. cya

Posted by burns on Apr-22-2003 07:33:

Very Cheesey and amazingly simple.

I suggest you phatten your track up, it sounds very thin. The song sounds very very simple. I suggest you play with effects and create differant sounds, take induvidual peices of percussion and piss around with them for hours, hope this helps a little, nothing better than negative feedback.

As for it beeing cheesey, thats only to my ear. You obviously love this style so take no notice of my comment on that, take care.

Posted by dbl on Apr-22-2003 08:39:

Would like a midi 2...
HOW TO MAKE A MIDI IN FL
1. make a MIDIOUT channel
2. add what you want to have in the midi file in the MIDIOUT channel
3. export as a MIDI

Posted by on Apr-22-2003 08:50:

start the track from 3:02

Posted by burns on Apr-22-2003 09:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Gil Shwarts
start the track from 3:02

Yeah, cut all the early shit out.

Posted by Eugene on Apr-23-2003 00:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Gil Shwarts
start the track from 3:02

why? I want some hard-ass basslines in my traxx

quote:
Originally posted by burns
and amazingly simple

burns, this is a style that is structurally much simpler than "deep" or progressive music (because it's more dynamic); when was the last time you listened to a track by Pulsedriver, Kosmonova, or Rocco? Although I agree my track is pretty amateurish and simple even in that context, but still...

Posted by allstar on Apr-23-2003 00:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Eugene
why? I want some hard-ass basslines in my traxx

burns, this is a style that is structurally much simpler than "deep" or progressive music (because it's more dynamic); when was the last time you listened to a track by Pulsedriver, Kosmonova, or Rocco? Although I agree my track is pretty amateurish and simple even in that context, but still...

It's definitely not amazingly simple! But it could contain more, and there is definitely room for more complexity. But for the style you are producing in, to say it is amazingly simple is a bit harsh!

Posted by burns on Apr-23-2003 07:27:

Hey, i didnt mean to dig at your track. I meant simple on the lines that the overall production wouldent have taken many other people more than a day.

Take a bit more time on production, try differant things Eugene, it will all come together.

Take care

Posted by capricorn15 on Apr-23-2003 07:46:

sounds like some tunnel trance, anyways, i like the song from 3:02, because im not much of a fan of that hard pounding stuff in the beginning. pretty good track though, take out those vocals, i think they suck. btw, last time i heard a track by you, it was teh first one you did, that one sucked, big improvement, good job

Posted by tranzMental on Apr-24-2003 06:04:

Hmm...this is interestin Eugene. This isn't really my cup of tea, but it has that Tunnel Trance sound, by DJ Dean, like many have mentioned earlier. I have Volume 6, 7, 8, 10, and 11, so I like that occasional hard sound Eugene.

Your starting to add more layers in your music Eugene, which is pretty good; but I think the song needed more notes with the 'hard' synth, and it would give it some 'sickness' factor in it, if your a fan of the genre.

I'm open to man different styles of electronica, and yes, this does have that cheesey sort of sound I used to enjoy; I know this is the style you prefer, and I respect that, and your good at this style. Even though I haven't heard of those artists you have mentioned, and have gained your knowledge, and influence from, but I still appreciate different styles of music sometimes; if I'm in the mood.

Keep it up. This would be interesting to remix. Perhaps, I will someday; but without the vocals. -Mental