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Posted by Dj Fred Lamar on Apr-21-2003 01:27:

Update on the Behinger DX-700

Alright TAs, awhile back we were talkin about this mixer....stats have come out and from what I know (which is LITTLE) about the DJM 600, this Behinger 700 could be classified as a knock off of the 600 instead of the 500. Correct me if I am wrong.

Stats and info of the Beh. 700 by www.audiolines.com (also, this mixer is running under $200 plus tax and shipping

quote:
"The PRO MIXER DJX700 is a professional 5-channel DJ mixer with such great features to instantly ingrain itself on the short list of must-have industry standards.

Start with our high-grade 45-mm ULTRAGLIDE faders. The faders are, after all, the heart and soul of each mixer. With their 500,000 cycles life expectancy, they outperform standard faders more than twenty-fold. VCA (Voltage Controlled Amplifier) technology goes hand in hand with our faders�audio signal does not run directly through them; instead, the faders only provide a control voltage to the VCAs. The advantage: practically no audio noise caused by mechanical wear.

Your crowd will be astounded by the 47 breathtaking digital effect presets in 24-bit quality: delay, reverb, flanger, filter, panner, ultrabass, exciter, Vinylizer, voice changer and more. Your audience will be astounded, but they�ll never have to know your secret.

Matching tracks is an art in itself. It takes countless nights of practice before you can truly say you have it under your belt. With our intelligent BPM counter, we take a lot of the guesswork out. Features like SYNC LOCK and BEAT ASSIST help you seamlessly align two tracks without having to rely solely on your ears.

We also give you our awesome XPQ 3D surround function. It widens the stereo image and adds life and transparency to your sound�it�s a great way to put a unique finishing touch to your sound and make it feel bigger and wider.

You work either with CDs or vinyl�sometimes both�and they all induce their own noise into the mix. The last thing you want is to pile even more mixer-originated noise on top of that. That�s why all of our DJ mixers incorporate the improved ULN (Ultra Low-Noise) preamps: what comes in comes out, with nothing added. So you get maximum headroom, minimal noise and ultra-transparent sound."


A 5 channel mixer for $200......OMFG.......

All u ppl who know about the 600 options, give some comparison


Posted by dJohn on Apr-21-2003 02:20:

Lol...I was just about to post this topic too!
I'm shopping around for mixers, and I noticed from first glance that the Behringer looked awfully similar to the DJM 500/600 series...I was likke, WTF..not to mention the price tag, the Berhinger, if it says what it claims to be, is literally a steal.
What are the differences, i. e why would somebody want to buy a DJM 600 over the VX700 for almost 500 dollars more?


Posted by twizta on Apr-21-2003 03:16:

single loop play?

the djm 600 has the single/loop play...howbout the behringer?
i need a loop function since my cdj 100 doesnt have it..hmm


Posted by Dj Fred Lamar on Apr-21-2003 04:09:

quote:
Originally posted by dJohn
What are the differences, i. e why would somebody want to buy a DJM 600 over the VX700 for almost 500 dollars more?


a few ppl awhile back said the name was the difference.......then others say that Pioneer is more reliable than Behinger.


Posted by bender on Apr-21-2003 06:54:

yep u get what ypu pay for. I wouldn't bother with this line of knockoff mixers.


Posted by mikefasssy on Apr-21-2003 07:50:

who cares if it isn't top notch, its 200 bucks!


Posted by Nabistai on Apr-21-2003 12:13:

Behringer is fairly new, but it seems that alot of their products are extremely decent for the price they are sold!


Posted by Alccode on Apr-21-2003 21:37:

I can't vouch for this new Behringer mixer, but I do have a VMX-300 (formerly their top mixer).

I've had it for many months, and it still works great. Although - you really do get what you paid for. What do I mean? Read on.

1) The BPM counters are useless. Tried them out just for curiosity and found them extremely lacking. Taped over them on day 1, and haven't taken it off since.

2) I have noticed in some of my recorded mixes a little bleeding from a channel. I haven't made a systematic search of which one it is (either channel 2 or 3) but I know it's happening. It's kind of hard to detect, I haven't pinpointed it yet but it's there.

3) The first channel is weird because if I use it as a phono channel, the volume distorts strangely. Whether this is a fader problem or circuitry problem I don't know, but it happens. Because of this I don't use the first channel for anything other than microphone. (incredibly rarely)

4) The knobs have softened a little, a.k.a. worn down a bit. What I mean is that they are a little wiggly. This is not that big of a deal though - they still feel sturdy enough. Just when I compare the eq knobs on channels 2 and 3 to, say, the unused ones on channel 1, I can definitely tell the difference.

5) On the above note, the fader on channel 2 feels a little tougher now, as in it's a little harder to move. I think it might be crapping out sooner or later, though I can't tell exactly when by far. Then again they did say that the faders would last for an ungodly 100,000+ times of use or so.

Anyway to conclude, the Behringer mixers seem to me to be PERFECT for the starting dj (which I was when I got it), but for a professional or semi-professional, or anyone who wants strictly quality equipment, I would recommend against them. Get an A&H or Vestax 275 or Rane or Pioneer or whatever. YMMV


Posted by Alccode on Apr-21-2003 21:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Nabistai
Behringer is fairly new, but it seems that alot of their products are extremely decent for the price they are sold!


Oops I didn't emphasize this.

For the PRICE, the Behringer mixers are GREAT and simply CANNOT BE BEAT. I mean, take a crappy Gemini mixer for the same price as a VMX-300, and see if it even lasts 1/10th of what the Behringer will give you. Not to mention the difference in features.


Posted by DJ Tranz on Apr-21-2003 23:54:

Behringer DJX700 WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE Till Mid September, MSRP: USD $270.00. major diff are kill switches on each eq band, 47 DIGITAL 24bit effects vs Pioneer 9 effects and only at 16bit. and this unit is a 4 channel not 5 as someone said above.


Posted by DJ Kibon on Apr-22-2003 00:28:

quote:
Originally posted by bender
yep u get what ypu pay for. I wouldn't bother with this line of knockoff mixers.


Hey Bender, I won't say what is right or wrong for you, because it's definately a personal choice.

I bought Technics, yet "skimped" on a mixer, I ended up buying the Behringer VMX-200 for about $250 CND. I've been nothing but happy with it, and now I see that they are putting out an obvious rip-off of the Pioneer.

That said, if it's $270US, there's a good chance that it's not as high quality as the Pioneers, which I believe go for about $1600 or more CND?

With such a price difference, the Behringer is almost disposable (depending on your cashflow), you could probably buy 2, 3 or even 4 of them in the same amount of money as the Pioneer.

The chances of me shelling out $1600 right now for a mixer are slim, but I could definately seeing my next mixer being this new Behringer model once I outgrow my current mixer.


Posted by Dj Fred Lamar on Apr-22-2003 03:24:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Tranz
Behringer DJX700 WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE Till Mid September, MSRP: USD $270.00. major diff are kill switches on each eq band, 47 DIGITAL 24bit effects vs Pioneer 9 effects and only at 16bit. and this unit is a 4 channel not 5 as someone said above.


the site posted that it had 5 channels.......


Posted by DJ Tranz on Apr-22-2003 03:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Fred Lamar
the site posted that it had 5 channels.......

Which site? interesting to know where that site got their info. hmm? anyway here is a close up pic of DJX700


Posted by SKELETOR on Apr-22-2003 05:15:

There was a discussion about this a while ago on futureproducers.com.. from hearing what people said there.. i would save the money and get a decent mixer... the behringer seems like a waste of money and looks like more show than go...

http://www.futureproducers.com/foru.../threadid/26338


Posted by Dj Fred Lamar on Apr-22-2003 05:16:

Straight from the Behinger site

I think they are referring to the effects as the 5th channel


http://www.behringer.com/02_product...DJX700&lang=eng


Posted by El~ZaPo on Apr-23-2003 17:51:

I can only vouch for my 4 month experience on the VMX 200 but so far it has been an excellent mixer, especially for the price. The beat counters are useless but thats not what I bought the mixer for.


Posted by ChavezHype on May-24-2003 18:56:

you never can tell until it's been tried and tested.
Although I do have some reservations about this mixer. How can it be 5 times less than a djm-600 and be anywhere as good? Sure the djm's haven't changed much price wise for a long time, but I really think that something so inexpensive will end up being all show on the cover and when you use it, it will really seem like a toy because it's much worse... However I don't know... It's too soon to tell. Knockoffs... it's up to you.


Posted by woody87 on May-24-2003 21:52:

The 5th channel is the Mic channel as far as I understand it, For �200 it is worth a try at least, 90% of what I have heard about Behringer has been positive. They don't have distributors so they cut down on the cost that way and they also batch manufacture their products so that the cost is brought down.

Woody


Posted by DJ Kibon on May-25-2003 20:56:

On a related note, I was at a live set last night, and for the first time saw a Behringer mixer being used instead of anything else.

Pretty sure it was this one:


Posted by ChavezHype on May-25-2003 22:16:

someone at least tell behringer to come up with different names... "626" there's a numark mixer with that same number... as well as "djx" etc.!! It's hilarious, they make a mixer that's a blatant rip off of another mixer, then they use the name of some other mixer or maybe even the same mixer... change it ever so slighly and voila new mixer launch. This just takes the cake, couldn't they at least put in the effort of making original names for their unoriginal products?


Posted by twizta on May-26-2003 02:31:

i have a question

where do i plug in the control line from cdj-100 to the behringer dx-700?

i saw the back picture of dx-700..and it doesnt have the control input....i think the djm 600 does?? ah well..thanks in advance



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