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Posted by oceanlab on Apr-21-2003 05:12:

what are the best turntables out there?

what are the best tt s out there both for vinyl and cd??

best mixers?

if money wasn't an issue.

Posted by M�bius on Apr-21-2003 10:00:

For Vinyl:
Technics 1200's (though some will argue that the Vestax are better, but please lets not go there)

For CD's:
Pioneer CDJ-1000

Mixers:
There's lots of good mixers
the Allen & Heath boards are good (Xone 464, Xone64), the Pioneer DJM 600 is good, there are some good Vestax boards too.....its all depends on what you want to do and how much you want to spend.

E.O.D
LOL

Posted by mute79 on Apr-21-2003 13:35:

Vinyl decks: Tech 1200s for House/Trance, Vestax for Hip-Hop/Scratching

CD decks: CDJ-1000s

Mixers: Rane, Dateq, Pioneer, Roland...

Posted by Alccode on Apr-21-2003 13:50:

Decks as said in above two posts.

If money REALLY isn't an issue then go for the Allen & Heath mixers IMO. Don't rule out the A&H Xone 32, it's awesome.

Otherwise if money is an issue, even if slightly an issue, then Vestax PCV-275 is a good one.

Though there are always other mixers to choose from.

Posted by malek on Apr-21-2003 14:35:

Vinyl decks: Tech 1200s
CD decks: CDJ-1000s
Mixer: Allen & Heath V6

Aria has them all and a Pionneer and Rane mixer.

Posted by DJ Chrono on Apr-21-2003 15:21:

The Vestax PDX-8000's are the best turntables on the market. Unfortunately they are very very hard to find.

And they list for $1,200.00 USD each.

Posted by Skipper on Apr-21-2003 23:46:

The best turntables are debatable...it's a matter of personal preference, and most people prefer to play on industry standard tables. (tech 12s)

As for a mixer...Vestax anything. SO durable...and the sound quality is amazing.

If you want efx, buy a board. You don't need to have the efx functions built in to the mixer, although it is handy.

Posted by RWC0412 on Apr-22-2003 03:12:

Malek how much does that Allen & Heath mixer cost? Any clue?

Russ

Posted by DEEJAY CHRIS C on Apr-22-2003 14:26:

$8,000

Posted by M�bius on Apr-22-2003 14:45:

As good as the Allen & Heath Xone V6 mixer is, I would never buy it ($8000 seems overpriced if you ask me), looking at it makes me want to throw up, it looks like a panel for some power system LOL! UGLY!

Posted by sohaness on Apr-22-2003 16:07:

^^ well, the v6 is not exactly targeted towards 'home users'. it's a club mixer...unless you have tons of cash and a HIGH powered system at home...

steve.

Posted by M�bius on Apr-22-2003 16:36:

Yes I know, but there's nothing extremely special about this mixer that warrants an $8000 price tag.

Posted by E*Master on Apr-22-2003 17:30:

quote:
Originally posted by DJLocoMoco
As good as the Allen & Heath Xone V6 mixer is, I would never buy it ($8000 seems overpriced if you ask me), looking at it makes me want to throw up, it looks like a panel for some power system LOL! UGLY!

I'm gonna have to agree with that. Turntables for me also have to look good. Appearantly those nob mixers are pop un the UK

Posted by dEsidEL on Apr-22-2003 17:37:

quote:
Originally posted by DJLocoMoco
As good as the Allen & Heath Xone V6 mixer is, I would never buy it ($8000 seems overpriced if you ask me), looking at it makes me want to throw up, it looks like a panel for some power system LOL! UGLY!

haha tru say .. given it's a good mixer, it looks like it's been ripped outta a power plant !

Posted by sohaness on Apr-22-2003 17:56:

quote:
Originally posted by DJLocoMoco
Yes I know, but there's nothing extremely special about this mixer that warrants an $8000 price tag.

do you know the ins and outs of this mixer?

steve.

Posted by NuERA on Apr-22-2003 20:31:

how do the chanel eqs wqork?

Posted by *dB* on Apr-22-2003 21:58:

tech 1200 mrk 5.... yes they do exist.... wikid tables.

A&H ... i have wanted the xone 32 for sooo long now!!

Posted by M�bius on Apr-22-2003 23:33:

quote:
Originally posted by sohaness
do you know the ins and outs of this mixer?

steve.

Yes I've read the specs, and being in electrical engineering, I can tell you that YES it's designed/engineered extremely well, quality product don't get me wrong, but $8000 still seems inflated.

Posted by M�bius on Apr-22-2003 23:53:

quote:
Originally posted by NuERA
how do the chanel eqs wqork?

Well there are no channel Eq's, there's a master EQ but that's it.
Instead they've given you a rotary HIGH PASS FILTER that sweeps from 30Hz to 600Hz, which depending on its position will adjust the cutoff frequency, thus allowing for certain sounds to pass through and others to be attenuated. The advantages of this is that you can be more creative because of the wide range the filter covers, you can do some funky stuff.

Posted by rabbitjoker on Apr-23-2003 00:48:

Re: what are the best turntables out there?

quote:
Originally posted by oceanlab
what are the best tt s out there both for vinyl and cd??

best mixers?

if money wasn't an issue.

Easy, use what the pros use:

Technics 1200 M3D turntables (friggin great, but not much different than the MK2 [I've had both - currently have the M3Ds]).

Pioneer DJM-600 Mixer (or the DJM-500) - pretty much every club has this installed, unless the DJ requests otherwise. AvB used the DJM-600. Aria has the Allen & Heath rotary, but that is out of the question unless you like to urinate cash. I will buy the DJM-600 mixer when I get a few grand to do so. Currently I have a Vestax-175 and it works great, the 275 is better becuase the eq-cuts don't click, but who cares - just use the rotary eq control.

It's great to spend money on hot equipment, but really if you ever want to club DJ then learn to play on standard equipment (1200s, DJM-500s or V-275s). That way you'll be used to the gear and will be able to perform flawlessly.

Plus, the Technics turntables DO NOT depreciate very much. If you take care of them you'll sell them each for a $100 or $150 less than what you bought them for. You can't say that about a numark or vestax deck. Same goes with the DJM mixers, maybe $200 or $300 less than you bought it for.

Posted by M�bius on Apr-23-2003 03:17:

Re: Re: what are the best turntables out there?

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Pioneer DJM-600 Mixer (or the DJM-500) - pretty much every club has this installed, unless the DJ requests otherwise. AvB used the DJM-600. Aria has the Allen & Heath rotary, but that is out of the question unless you like to urinate cash. I will buy the DJM-600 mixer when I get a few grand to do so. Currently I have a Vestax-175 and it works great, the 275 is better becuase the eq-cuts don't click, but who cares - just use the rotary eq control.

I have the DJM600 and I love it works great and has all those extra little bells and whistles to make DJ'n more fun hehe.

Posted by djeso on Apr-24-2003 02:51:

Re: Re: what are the best turntables out there?

Tables:

Numark tt-1 (old style) vs Techs

Techs better sound quality but weaker motor by 0.7 kg

although in the end it doesn't matter what you buy, it's watch you do with it, if you learn on shit, you're in heaven when you use better equipment.

Mixer, your prefrence, Vestax is good, but I noticed with one the on the preview right side seems to be a bit quieter, can't remamber the model, but if you got the mula, get a rane. Personal suggestion ... avoid using bpm displays if you're gonna get the 500's or 600's.

Peace

Posted by Skipper on Apr-24-2003 03:35:

quote:
Originally posted by DJLocoMoco
As good as the Allen & Heath Xone V6 mixer is, I would never buy it ($8000 seems overpriced if you ask me), looking at it makes me want to throw up, it looks like a panel for some power system LOL! UGLY!

Hasn't jean-fred said that the new Vestax mixer at Aria is much better in terms of sound quality? ($6000 vs $8000)

Regardless, I'm sure they both beat my Numark 1002X - but not by much.

Posted by M�bius on Apr-24-2003 04:01:

Re: Re: Re: what are the best turntables out there?

quote:
Originally posted by djeso
Personal suggestion ... avoid any mixers with bpm displays ie pioneer 500 and 600

I diagree, why discredit a mixer just because it has BPM counter? sure its a useless feature, but it doesn't mean you should avoid the mixer entirely. If somone is stupid enough to actually base their mixing skills on the BPM counter, well then they shouldn't even be a DJ LOL

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
Hasn't jean-fred said that the new Vestax mixer at Aria is much better in terms of sound quality? ($6000 vs $8000)

It's interesting that these mixers promote on the basis of "Superior" sound quality. What's funny is that a mixer has little to do with sound quality. Sound quality is more heavily dependent on the medium or source of the sound i.e vinyl vs CD vs mp3, as well as heavily dependent on the Speakers, amps and the manner in which they are setup in the club. So in a club setting the sound quality difference between high-end mixers is not even really noticeable. So why spend $8000 on a mixer when you can spend $2500 - $3000 on another mixer that can do the job just fine. Mixers have more control over the WAY things sound through the use of effects or EQ's. I guess it's like RJ said if you urinate money then why not buy the most expensive equipment?

Posted by djeso on Apr-24-2003 04:10:

Re: Re: Re: Re: what are the best turntables out there?

quote:
Originally posted by DJLocoMoco
I diagree, why discredit a mixer just because it has BPM counter? sure its a useless feature, but it doesn't mean you should avoid the mixer entirely. If somone is stupid enough to actually base their mixing skills on the BPM counter, well then they shouldn't even be a DJ LOL

Good point, it's just someone who's new might be temped to use that bpm feature, you are right about "...if they're stupid enough..."

Peace

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