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Posted by Micheline on Apr-24-2003 00:23:

is it ok to have a trance album to your name?

Just wondering isnt trance as music being better in mix Cds or have an album? I had been told that an album with trance the main genre isnt the best thing to do. I know PVD made an album with more than just trance and it did well. I know that Sasha released an album that wasnt trance as many expected and it did ok. I know Paul Oakenfold did an album with no trance in it, and even many people didnt like it it was an interesting CD. So that just reminds me to ask also why big trance djs spin trance, but try and not release an album with the genre being the main style? For that i can point Ferry Corsten. He produce pure trance under his System F project, but not under his own name. Its like he wants more respect with producing real electronic music under his name.
It will be nice to hear your opinions.


Posted by Rakoon on Apr-24-2003 00:33:

Mix compilations are usually more danceable and all since they have all trance tunes, but artist albums focus more on diverse styles of tracks so its more interesting to listen to. I'd rather hear a breaks track, or ambient track, or vocal track, by a trance artist on his artist album who usually doesnt do those kinds of music.


Posted by joeh on Apr-24-2003 00:39:

Re: is it ok to have a trance album to your name?

quote:
Originally posted by Micheline
Just wondering isnt trance as music being better in mix Cds or have an album? I had been told that an album with trance the main genre isnt the best thing to do. I know PVD made an album with more than just trance and it did well. I know that Sasha released an album that wasnt trance as many expected and it did ok. I know Paul Oakenfold did an album with no trance in it, and even many people didnt like it it was an interesting CD. So that just reminds me to ask also why big trance djs spin trance, but try and not release an album with the genre being the main style? For that i can point Ferry Corsten. He produce pure trance under his System F project, but not under his own name. Its like he wants more respect with producing real electronic music under his name.
It will be nice to hear your opinions.





Mmm, a lot of people would say that ferry's productions under his own name (like punk) are less credible as 'real' music, than ones under the systm f name.


Posted by zarathustra on Apr-24-2003 00:41:

I often find it's when artists experiment outside of their genres that some of the most interesting (not best) results take place.

For example:

P. Diddy - Let's get Ill - Not Puffy's usual style, a very interesting track but overall, a piece of shit IMO.

Radiohead - Kid A - Vastly different from their older stuff, but a great track nonetheless.


Posted by Orko on Apr-24-2003 00:46:

This is taken from oakenfold's website, under the biography section, the FAQs page.

quote:
The next Album will be an artist album. The dance aspect will come from the remixes of the singles.


I think this is a good statement. Dj's want to be able to branch out and do something new and interesting, not just for themsleves, but us too. I personally like it.
They can spin trance anytime, but they are putting loads of effort into an artist album. Why not make it more interesting for themselves?


Posted by Micheline on Apr-24-2003 00:49:

I understand what you saying, but i just have the feeling that the trance djs just dont feel the genre is taken serious by most people and thats why they change the style in their own(under their name) productions.
Maybe trance is just made for parties and thats all. Nothing you can listen at home.


Posted by Orko on Apr-24-2003 00:58:

I dont think its to sell more records, but to be more creative. If you do trance 24hrs a day, you can get stale.

Sometimes they are just not confident enough to do something under their own name. Its impossible for us to memorize all the different alias' that DJ's use. So if a track does well, they can come out and say they did it, or if it does poorly, just let it go away.


Posted by joeh on Apr-24-2003 00:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Micheline
I understand what you saying, but i just have the feeling that the trance djs just dont feel the genre is taken serious by most people and thats why they change the style in their own(under their name) productions.
Maybe trance is just made for parties and thats all. Nothing you can listen at home.


nah, i dont think oakey did bunkka, say, because he thought that trance wasnt seen as real music. I think he did a mainly non trance album because its likely to make more money.


Posted by Micheline on Apr-24-2003 01:04:

quote:
Originally posted by joeh152
nah, i dont think oakey did bunkka, say, because he thought that trance wasnt seen as real music. I think he did a mainly non trance album because its likely to make more money.


Thats strange. I tought that trance is popular all over the world. Why he tought he will sell more albums if they are not trance?


Posted by joeh on Apr-24-2003 01:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Micheline
Thats strange. I tought that trance is popular all over the world. Why he tought he will sell more albums if they are not trance?


Because trance (especially quality trance) isnt really all that popular/mainstream across the world - even in europe. I think a lot of people will dance to trance occasionally in clbus but wouldnt buy albums.

'Stary Eye Suprise' on the other hand is very mainstream, thus sells.


Posted by Micheline on Apr-24-2003 01:10:

I just hate when dj or producer who is said to be good go into the mainstream. Its just bad. I hate that. Most of them are doing it for the money and i like to listen to an album thats made with love to the music.
Why not the techno djs/producer dont make different sounding album than techno then?


Posted by arctic on Apr-24-2003 01:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Micheline
Maybe trance is just made for parties and thats all. Nothing you can listen at home.


I don't think thats correct, but it isnt mainstream, ill give you that.

Personally, i would love to see more trance albums. I really enjoy them.


Posted by wick3d on Apr-24-2003 04:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Micheline
Maybe trance is just made for parties and thats all. Nothing you can listen at home.


i listen to trance at home all the time, i love the shit!


Posted by tranceaholic on Apr-24-2003 05:15:

tiesto-in my memory was pretty much a trance album and it did very well and i love it.


Posted by Micheline on Apr-24-2003 06:07:

you are right. i am over reacting. its just there was also this feeling that trance is not taken serious. nobody ever give award for a trance track.


Posted by DJ Kandaio on Apr-24-2003 06:37:

I would say that saying one of our esteemed Trance DJs putting out tunes that fit into our strict guidelines of danceable Trance music is to ignore their amazing artist freedoms presented by the unlimited potential of Electronically created instruments.

Trance is mearely a gateway into a vastly unexplored region of almost limitless potential of acoustic possibility. If an artist wishes to test its limits, they will not always find themselves making generic dance tracks. Tiesto's In My Memory album is a fantastic example of this, as he explores the possibilities of bass with Dallas, the use of improvised soloing in In My Memory, and the incredible almost narrative structure of Magik Journey. From talking to him about this album, he wished for the entire album to be a "Magik Journey" into the potential of electronically generated sound melded into various motifs.

The idea that an Artist can be branded as a Trance artist, and being stripped of their creative freedoms is a terrible idea.


Posted by Micheline on Apr-24-2003 07:50:

Thats very nice said. DJKatheda, it seems to me you know your stuff.



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