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Mixmeister probs! Please help

I had a problem a while ago that i coulndt mix some off my trax because they were in different speed even if i changed the BPM....
Since some of the trax where "mixable" i didnt know what to do but now i have realised that those trax already had the same BPM from the beginning.....I ussualy press "Manually enter BPM" and there i enter the BPM and then close that window......is that wrong cause it doesnt work....Visually the BPM changes but you can hear clearily that it doesnt......

Please help

I don't understand the question.

I also manually change the BPM's in MixMeister. For example, I have 7 songs, I put them into the playlist, then I go to the graph and change all the labeled BPM lines to 140, manually. That *does* change the actual speed, doesn't it? I sure hope it does, otherwise that prog isn't worth much!

Remember: the blue one is volume, the red one is BPM, I think. Are you changing the right one??

The problem with MixMeister is getting the tracks lined up at the right positions. Sometimes your mix may sound bad because you matched the "front-beat" with the "back-beat", instead of 2 "front-beats." In that case you have to play around with dragging different boxes. Maybe this is your problem?

Im quite a newbie but what is "Front beat" and "Back beat" well as i said i can easily do very nice mixes between Trax that already has the
sam BPM....But i cant change the BPM of trax...when i right klick on them (I dont do that on the playlist, is that the prob?) i choose
"Manually enter BPM" and fill in the BPM i want in the little window there.....And then i can se when i put the track into my mix that it should be for exampel 140 BPM but it isnt....it says so but i can clearily hear that 2 trax with 140 BPM isnt the same speed.. If i take some Rave song with 300 BPM and change it into 140 i cant hear any difference......its still 300 BPM although it says 140 BPM on the screen....get it?

Mix by ear ... that's the only advice I can give you.

Well thats kinda hard when the trax ahve different speed you see....

hmm... all I can say is, works for me...

Last night I changed a 140-bpm song to 80-bpm, and it got as slow as I expected...

Maybe you should write them about a bug in their software?

Never having used or seen Mixmeister, I can only speculate...

What i think you are probably doing is that when you enter the BPM of the track, you are actually telling the program that the song is e.g. 140BPM. What I mean is, if you have manually worked out what the BPM of the track is, you would then enter this value so that the program can then use this as a reference to change the pitch of the track by the right amount when you want it to have a different BPM. (Hopefully this is making sense!)

What you need to do is to work out the actual BPM of each song, and enter this in the way that you have been doing. The program probably then stores this in some kind of file. There should then be another option to change the BPM of the song you want to play. In Virtual Turntables, this is NOT done by entering the BPM you want the song to be, but by matching it to the other song, perhaps this is done in the same way in Mixmeister.

However, your best bet is to take skywarp's advice and mix by ear!

Put if i mix by ear that must mean i cant mix trax with different BMP?
I get what you mean...but it seems like the BPM is supposed to change
when i manually enter it....How do you change ut Eugene?

OK, let's go through this step-by-step.

1. Add some songs to your playlist.
2. Look at the graph below. You should see wave plots, and a RED line UNDER the plot. This red line has a marker that means the BPM, for example, 142, or 125.
4. Click the RIGHT MOUSE BUTTON on that marker.
5. Choose "Edit"
6. Enter a new number, the BPM that you want.

That should work! It works for me....

I really havent seen that red line...ill go check for it right away


thx

"Front beat" and "Back beat

I am also a newbie to Mix meister, but I think this program kicks ass. Anyway, it is the first time I heard of "Front beat" and "Back beat" expression, but I think that it happens when songs seem to have different beat, even though they have the same BPM. Here is my explanation: even though the songs have the same beat, the beats are not lined up, I had lots of problems with it in the beginning. What happens is that the beats of both songs are alternating sort of speak, that, beats are in-between each other. (Let me know if you don't understand me) There is a very simple solution to it. make sure you use "beat mixing" and go to Tools | Snap Length to | and choose "eighth note"... now drag the edge of the beat bars just a bit to whatever side. Now on the opposite ends of the beat bars, drag the edge in the same direction just a bit. It will snap it to eighth notes and the beats will be lined up. I might do a tutorial on this, let me know what you think about this idea.

Hmmm..............

When i mix i always set the Posisition to 8 measures cause i think it works better......i can hear where to put the the Track to get it right and i always disable the "Snap the beat" thing on the menu cause i want to do it myselfs so i can have anything where i want it.......When i let the program do things by itself it sounds really bad

When you load a song into mixmeister it calculates what it thinks is the bpm. If you change that then it will alter the song to compensate for the change. Let's say that the 2 songs that you were trying to mix were both at 138, but for some reason mixmeister calculated one of them at 139. If you manually change the one from 139 to 138 mixmeister thinks that you want to slow the track down. Therefore it will stretch the track to what it thinks it needs to be to be at 138. So basically if you know they are at the same bpm from the start, just ignore what mixmeister calculates for the bpm and just go straight into matching the beats. The numbers I used are just an example, I usually find that mixmeister will mis-calculate by a couple tenths(.1-.3), but usually not a full beat. Hope this makes some sense and will help.

Ok i totally get it....thx....but what if i want 2 trax to have same BPM then? How do i do?

Ok so I think I know what your asking. Let me know if I'm way off. Example...you have 2 songs one at 140 and one at 138 and you want them to have the same bpm(138) so you can match the beats. In a perfect world mixmeister will calculate them correctly and you can manually change the 140 one to 138 and they will match. If mixmeister doesn't calculate one correct, lets say the 140 one. Maybe it calculated it at 139.7 and it did calculate the one at 138 correct. Your out of luck in this scenerio. One thing you can try is since you know mixmeister calculated the 140 one off by .3(140-139.7) is compensate for that when changing it to 138. You know that the 140 was 2 bpm faster so just subract those 2 from what mixmeister calculated and there you go. The 140 will show 137.7 and the 138 will remain 138. This should work, but might need some tweaking. Basically try it listen and keep changing the bpm .1 at a time until it sounds good. An easy way to tell if you have them at the same bpm is if the beginning and end of the 32's on both songs align perfectly. If they do they must be the same bpm, if not you can easily see which one needs to be stretched or lengenthed. Good luck

But how do i know which one Mixmeister calculated wrong? Its very hard to hear which one of the trax is faster then the other......

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