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Posted by Matt on Apr-28-2003 11:03:

Beatmatching exercises?

I am wondering if anyone has some simple exercises I can do to practice just beatmatching? I am thinking about just putting on records and beatmatching to perfection over and over again... but I was wondering if someone had thought up something more creative/fun?

I am pretty good at it, but it takes me an incredibly long time to get it "just right" so I dont have to worry about it while I am making my transition. I figure


Posted by Breeze on Apr-28-2003 11:08:

there isnt any i do. maybe just to see how fast i can beatmatch.

i let one vinyl play and see how many songs i can beat match into it before that vinyl stops.

goodluck


Posted by Arsalan on Apr-28-2003 11:13:

Re: Beatmatching exercises?

quote:
Originally posted by Mosaic
I am wondering if anyone has some simple exercises I can do to practice just beatmatching? I am thinking about just putting on records and beatmatching to perfection over and over again... but I was wondering if someone had thought up something more creative/fun?

I am pretty good at it, but it takes me an incredibly long time to get it "just right" so I dont have to worry about it while I am making my transition. I figure


i dont think speed should be a big concern for you as long as you get it matched before you want to mix it in your fine and also you will pick up on the speed thing evantually, just keep practicing.


btw did you finally get your tables man ??


Posted by Blithe on Apr-28-2003 12:00:

Re: Beatmatching exercises?

quote:
Originally posted by Mosaic
I am wondering if anyone has some simple exercises I can do to practice just beatmatching? I am thinking about just putting on records and beatmatching to perfection over and over again... but I was wondering if someone had thought up something more creative/fun?

I am pretty good at it, but it takes me an incredibly long time to get it "just right" so I dont have to worry about it while I am making my transition. I figure


It really helps me... (when practicing) to put the pitches of the records close to each other, and then letting them both run for awhile. Once the beats have been galloping for awhile try to fix it quickly. Not only will this help train your ear for which is running faster than the other, but it also will help train you to respond faster when you get into a jam, playing live.


Posted by webbie on Apr-28-2003 12:53:

My advice is to play around, skip waiting three breakdowns before
you mix out. Mix out before the first breakdown and then mix in
just before the first breakdown in the other tune and vice versa.

Just dont do it plain and boring because, it needs to be said, you
learn so much faster and better if you are having fun while doing it!
Try to make it as "non plain" as possible, funnier to listen to
and funnier to mix, dont get your knackers in a twist just because
you cant make a perfect transition.

Everything will come to you as time passes.


Posted by Matt on Apr-28-2003 19:54:

guys, okay, I am like 95% able to beatmatch, I am just looking for fun ways to get better at some precise beatmatching.

Because I keep running into the problem where I am too busy to make a good transition cuz I am trying to hold the beats together


Posted by kevM on Apr-29-2003 17:43:

I can usually roughly beat match quite well, but I still have some problems with the finer adjustments.

So yesterday I just tried to have 2 tunes going all the time I didn�t worry about making transitions or phrase matching or even having them matched exactly all the time. Instead I just focused on making small adjustments to bring them back into time. I even did some without using headphones.

I found that this was much more relaxing then attempting to do mixes where I would focus too much on not making any mistakes and end up being frustrated.


Posted by -CosmicFire- on Apr-29-2003 17:56:

dude try to get seemless loop then u can hold them..;]


Posted by Haunted on Apr-29-2003 23:17:

start a song. beat match another one real quick.. phase it.. and let em play together
see how long they stay
fun stuff


Posted by deejay2002 on Apr-30-2003 01:12:

no matter how well you match tbe beats, they will drift off at one point. When I mix, I play with my EQs 50% of the time, and the pitch slider. If you want that clean, solid mix, then you gotta constantly move your pitch slider. One of my good friends who is now a famous famous DJ taught me this pitch bending thing where I don't even have to touch the record to match the beats. If's not how fast you match the beats. I mean you could probably pull out any records to see if you want to throw it in the mix if you could beatmatch that fast but that's no biggie


Posted by deejay2002 on Apr-30-2003 01:16:

quote:
Originally posted by webbie

Just dont do it plain and boring because, it needs to be said, you
learn so much faster and better if you are having fun while doing it!
Try to make it as "non plain" as possible, funnier to listen to
and funnier to mix, dont get your knackers in a twist just because
you cant make a perfect transition.



woooooooooooooord.

I used to have the 32nd beat mixing style but I was just another OK DJ in the rave scene. Now I have this "ILLUSION MIXING" Sorta like Ferry Corsten but longer mixes


Posted by Dj Fred Lamar on Apr-30-2003 05:13:

u could do this but it'll cost u some money

I just hooked a Korg beat box up to my mixer so I have both tables plus the beat box providing sounds.......I set a beat into the beat box and try to match it and so forth.......this helps b/c with the beatbox, there is no breakdown or anything so u can mix in and out of it all day long........


Posted by Greedy on Apr-30-2003 05:15:

1. beatmatch without touching EQs
2. beatmatch drum and bass
3. beatmatch during breadowns
4. beatmatch any non electronica genre
5. beatmatch with distractions. . .
6. beatmatch with highhats in songs . . etc.

the list goes on.


Posted by deejay2002 on Apr-30-2003 06:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Busy Child
1. beatmatch without touching EQs
2. beatmatch drum and bass
3. beatmatch during breadowns
4. beatmatch any non electronica genre
5. beatmatch with distractions. . .
6. beatmatch with highhats in songs . . etc.

the list goes on.


man i just love your avatar


Posted by djmorph on Apr-30-2003 06:56:

quote:
Originally posted by deejay2002
man i just love your avatar




What is it, I can't tell?


Posted by -CosmicFire- on Apr-30-2003 08:49:

yea...
WTF is this avatar ;]


Posted by sektile on Apr-30-2003 12:33:

mix breaks


Posted by djmorph on Apr-30-2003 14:31:

mixing breaks

now when people say "mix breaks" thats refering to mixing the song in after the trance song has "broke" down. Which would yield in a more up lifting mix. Am i correct in what I have just assumed?


Posted by Greedy on Apr-30-2003 17:09:

Re: mixing breaks

quote:
Originally posted by djmorph
now when people say "mix breaks" thats refering to mixing the song in after the trance song has "broke" down. Which would yield in a more up lifting mix. Am i correct in what I have just assumed?


no, mixing breaks is mixing break beat songs.


Posted by loki on May-01-2003 22:59:

The excercise I use most often is trying to keep two songs matched as long as possible. Sometimes, I will move the pitch around on one, and try to rematch the beats quickly. Or I will pick up the needle, and set it down randomly on the record and try to match it up.

Challenge yourself, and you will get really good I'm dead serious, the harder you make it on yourself, the better you will become!

Loki


Posted by raveanddie on May-03-2003 11:08:

Originally posted by Busy Child [/i][/b]
1. beatmatch without touching EQs
2. beatmatch drum and bass
3. beatmatch during breadowns
4. beatmatch any non electronica genre
5. beatmatch with distractions. . .
6. beatmatch with highhats in songs . . etc.

quote:
[i][b] the list goes on.



Pls put more .... i am a newbie and would like to know how many methods can i try to perfect out my mixing technique

cheers


Posted by Tiger777 on May-03-2003 13:02:

just put 2 records on, doesnt matter what they are and match them. Do it again, again, again, again, and again till you got it. Then you may move on to the next 1 where you will try again, again again again and again... Beatmatching is THE hardest things to learn...


Posted by rqpeyruxvg on May-04-2003 10:12:

do a couple of sets...do some timing...


Posted by shawnb on May-05-2003 23:33:

Re: Beatmatching exercises?

quote:
Originally posted by Mosaic
I am wondering if anyone has some simple exercises I can do to practice just beatmatching? I am thinking about just putting on records and beatmatching to perfection over and over again... but I was wondering if someone had thought up something more creative/fun?

I am pretty good at it, but it takes me an incredibly long time to get it "just right" so I dont have to worry about it while I am making my transition. I figure


i know one;

song "a"-- in da club (50 cent)
song "b"-- will i ( ian van dahl )

good luck


Posted by Greedy on May-06-2003 00:52:

quote:
Originally posted by raveanddie
Pls put more .... i am a newbie and would like to know how many methods can i try to perfect out my mixing technique

cheers


this is what i do lots of times:

1. I get my gf who doesnt know a lot of my songs and i just tell her to just hand me random records she wants me to spin.

2. I get a a buddy and we both take turns dropping one tune at a time trying to beatmatch to the tune the other person dropped before. The point of the game is to drop a tune that you think he cant beatmatch to.
This past weekend we played that game at our party and i got got pissed at him so i dropped DnB and he almost strangled me.


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