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Posted by Hootchis on Apr-29-2003 12:41:

Question about the Vestex 275 mixer?

I just bought a Vestex 275 mixer which i'm very happy with thus far. I'm relatively new to DJ'ing, however not new to the scene in general. My question is this. Does this mixer have a headphone mix, meaning when listening to the cued track, i can't figure out how to make it the domininate beat in my phones....i can only have them both playing at the same volumes. Is there a way on this mixer to control the volume of the cued track vs the outgoing track in the headphones? any help is greatly appreciated.


Posted by JohnSmith on Apr-29-2003 14:06:

no, there is no way to do this on this mixer. what i do is turn the gain up on the cued track to be able to hear it.

just remember to put it back down before mixing in!


Posted by Hootchis on Apr-29-2003 14:33:

yeah, that's kind of what i thought....i've been doing what you suggested with the gains, however it doesn't do much justice at times. I'm surprised that a mixer with a price tag like that doesn't come with a headphone mix. However, maybe i just don't know much about mixers. What type of price range are we talking about with headphone mixes....or is each mixer just different than the next and not have to do with price range.


Posted by Luke Terry on Apr-29-2003 15:05:

Cool

u should learn to mix 1 ear on, 1 ear off, its the only way that you will be able to dj in loud environments


Posted by Hootchis on Apr-29-2003 16:34:

so, it's not that much of a negative that the mixer doesn't have earphone mixing....just have to learn it the way you said.


Posted by JohnSmith on Apr-29-2003 17:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Hootchis
I'm surprised that a mixer with a price tag like that doesn't come with a headphone mix. However, maybe i just don't know much about mixers. What type of price range are we talking about with headphone mixes....or is each mixer just different than the next and not have to do with price range.


yeah, each mixer is different. I don't think even the DJM 500 has a headphone mix knob. i think the 600 does though. i could be wrong about that. but i have seen cheap ass scratch 2 channel mixers that have this feature, and expensive ones that don't. some scratch mixers implement it as a smaller crosfader so you can preview what your scratches will sound like before doing them.

one thing the vestax 275 DOES have is split cue, the big black pushbutton by the headphone cueing. if you press this, you get the master channel in one side, and the cue in the other. this can be helpful for differentiating. however, i don't like this method, because the stereo separation confuses my feeble mind.

as long as you keep the gains low enough that you aren't maxing one out to hear it in the cans, then it should be effective. works for me anyway.


Posted by Hootchis on Apr-29-2003 18:20:

thanks for the info...that's pretty much what i've been doing.
besides that....great mixer though!


Posted by Bryant on Apr-29-2003 22:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Hootchis
thanks for the info...that's pretty much what i've been doing.
besides that....great mixer though!


Yep, very nice mixer indeed.


Posted by mikefasssy on Apr-30-2003 00:03:

Can't you just put both que's /pfl's on at once????


Posted by ne1seenmykeys on Apr-30-2003 15:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Project T
u should learn to mix 1 ear on, 1 ear off, its the only way that you will be able to dj in loud environments


why do you say this? Please explain further


Posted by Hootchis on Apr-30-2003 16:54:

can anyone tell me the purpose and how to operate the Effect on the Vestex 275.


Posted by JohnSmith on Apr-30-2003 17:09:

there are no effects on the 275. the effects send and return requires an FX processor to be connected to it for these to work.


Posted by Hootchis on May-01-2003 12:21:

well, that was basically my question...hypathetically speaking if you had the FX processor (first of all what is an FX processor and $$$, sorry, new to the game!) connected, then what are the capabilities of it?


Posted by -CosmicFire- on May-01-2003 12:48:

the djm500 has effects right?!!? :[]


Posted by JohnSmith on May-01-2003 15:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Hootchis
well, that was basically my question...hypathetically speaking if you had the FX processor (first of all what is an FX processor and $$$, sorry, new to the game!) connected, then what are the capabilities of it?


this is an FX processor:


it costs: $300US

its capabilities:
quote:

KORG KP-2 Kaoss Pad: Dynamic Effect Controller/Sampler With 60 Programs


The Korg KP-2 Kaoss Pad offers still more possibilities, still more effects, improved sampling and innovative optic displays.

Features:
X/Y pad can be scraped or tapped to control the effect sound
Delay, reverb, pitch shifter, plus filters to process sound
Modulation-type effects such as flanger, phaser and pan
80 effect programs ideal for DJ mixing
6 buttons for effects recall
Mic input
5-second digital sampler with time stretch, reverse playback, and pitch
Use as a MIDI controller for synths, samplers, effects, or other external devices
Phono, line, 1/4" mic input jacks & stereo RCA outs
Size: 8"w x 6.6"h x 2.3"d. Wt. 2 lbs.


There are many other kinds of effects processors, that allow you to do different things.


Posted by Ghostface on Sep-04-2003 23:49:

ok, I'm going to upgrade to this or a DJM500, but preferably this PCV275 to save a lot of money as I only really need three channels and I don't need the fx.

Questions:

Would this mixer be suitable for smaller events? ie sound quality over a big system and also if I booked you for a gig would you be happy when you saw this mixer in the booth?

Am I to understand that you can't listen to the master output through your headphones on this mixer? You can cue any of three channels with the switch below the EQs but there seems to be no cue pan and I can't see whether you can listen to the master on your hp anywhere?

many thanks


Posted by DJ Chrono on Sep-05-2003 00:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Hootchis
I'm surprised that a mixer with a price tag like that doesn't come with a headphone mix.


this is the only thing that disappointed me with this mixer. even my cheap little stanton sk5 had a headphone mix.


Posted by Haunted on Sep-05-2003 02:31:

you can listen to master level by pressing split cue, and in the right cup its master.
also dont waste money on djm.. get a pcv and the rest of the money get records


Posted by s0undw4v3 on Sep-05-2003 11:20:

I have the PCV275... I mix on one ear.

Put the cue on only for the channel that u mix.

That way u'll be able to listen only to the track you are going to i
insert.

If u are used to split channel mixing - use the black button, though I don't like it either

This is a great mixer for big/small events. It has all the capabilities and functions you'll need in a studio mixer (doesn't have a fader curve to scratching... but it's still alright)


Hope you enjoy it


Posted by Seany_G on Sep-05-2003 16:49:

I thought I heard (and I could be wrong) that you couldn't hear the EQ changes in the track your are cueing up. Like the sone in the headphones has it's EQ's at full volume regardless of hom much the bass is cranked up or the mids are up, etc. If this is true this is a HUGE disadvantage.


Posted by JohnSmith on Sep-05-2003 18:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Seany_G
I thought I heard (and I could be wrong) that you couldn't hear the EQ changes in the track your are cueing up. Like the sone in the headphones has it's EQ's at full volume regardless of hom much the bass is cranked up or the mids are up, etc. If this is true this is a HUGE disadvantage.


this is NOT true of the PCV275.

It is however true of the PCV175 i believe, which is why i got the better 275.

There are a few things that are missing (cue/master pan would be really nice), but all in all it's a good mixer, especially for the price.


Posted by Rememberence_ on Sep-06-2003 16:33:

This is fuckin nice mixer... I would definitely go for this if I hadn't already convinced myself to spend the money on the Xone32 that I plan to buy. What can you expect to pay for the PCV275 by the way?


Posted by DJ Tranz on Sep-06-2003 20:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Rememberence_
This is fuckin nice mixer... I would definitely go for this if I hadn't already convinced myself to spend the money on the Xone32 that I plan to buy. What can you expect to pay for the PCV275 by the way?


Dude, Xone32 is so much better than Vestax 275, much clearer and sharper sound output and don't forget the awesome, tempo controlled, sweeping filters....

Cheers...


Posted by DjSimonB on Sep-06-2003 20:53:

quote:
Originally posted by s0undw4v3
I have the PCV275... I mix on one ear.

Put the cue on only for the channel that u mix.

That way u'll be able to listen only to the track you are going to i
insert.


I do that too, seems the simplest thing for me, never seen the need for the headphone mix feature... I suppose Vestax probably thought the same way when they made that mixer

Anyway, enjoy your new mixer, great piece of kit


Posted by DjSimonB on Sep-06-2003 20:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Seany_G
I thought I heard (and I could be wrong) that you couldn't hear the EQ changes in the track your are cueing up. Like the sone in the headphones has it's EQ's at full volume regardless of hom much the bass is cranked up or the mids are up, etc. If this is true this is a HUGE disadvantage.


To be honest I'd love that feature, I wish my mixer had it... but maybe I'm just weird.


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