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Posted by -CosmicFire- on Apr-30-2003 08:11:

Which CD-Player To buy?!?

Guys...
I need ur help..
i wanna buy one of these cds:
American Dj Pro-Scratch 2
OR: Pioneer CDJ100S
the mixer will be Behringer VMX300

Now plz dont tell me to take the pioneer coz every body takes it and they are in most of the clubs and all..
plz tell me if u used thse and u know them well...

American Pro-Scratch2:
PowerTouch Wheel, a touch-sensitive interactive jog wheel
Digital Scratching 2.0 for precise scratch control
2 scratch modes: digital scratch and beat juggle mode
9 onboard effects give you scratch, filter, echo, trans, skid, phase, flanger, pan, and bop
4 preset parameters let you tweak each effect
Tempo lock
Lockout mode (for security)
Parameter ratio adjustment knob
Parameter time adjustment knob
Pitch bend (�4, 8, and 16%)
3 flash start sampler buttons (7-second sample per button)
Flash cue
Anti-shock memory
Instant start
Seamless loop
Fader Q start
Reverse play
Volume control between music and sampler
Mixer between music and sample (can adjust pitches separately
FX mix on the fly
Auto cue function (-48dB)
3 sampler cues can be memorized
Selectable elapsed, remain, and total remain time display
Single/continuous play
Flip flop (relay playback between two decks)
Headphone output with volume control

Pioneer CDJ100s:
Digital Jog Break
DIGITAL JOG BREAK provides analog DJ effects at a turn of the JOG DIAL so new and original sounds can be made. This player is suited for a wide variety of music genre with digital effects. It is both versatile and easy to operate.

Jet
Jet Sound wave is created by adding SHORT DELAY. This is similar to FLANGER which DJs make by using 2 analog turntables

Zip
The pitch of reproduced sounds can be changed without changing the tempo. Lowering of the pitch by the JOG DIAL produces the sounds resembling those made by slowing an analog turntable (Braking effect).

Wah
The audio level of a certain frequency can be made strong or weak by the turn of a dial.

HOLD Function
With the button on, the present JOG DIAL state can be maintained even while taking your hand off the JOG DIAL. With the button off, it returns gradually to the original state. You can use this button whenever you want

Slot In
The SLOT IN Method allows Smooth changes between discs. It takes about four seconds to load your song, fastest in the industry

Quick Start
When you hit the Play button the CDJ-100S starts the music instantly (less than 0.01 seconds) so you can match rhythms with pinpoint accuracy.

Compact Body
Measuring just 8-9/16" x 3-3/4" x 12-1/4" (217.7 x 94.5 x 310.7mm), the CDJ-100S is packed with all the features you'd expect of a professional CD player, all of which makes this machine ideal for mobile DJ'ing.

Jog Dial
This large, quick-response dial makes frame-by-frame search and point selection easy and accurate while providing a closer-toturntable feel.

Super Fast Track Search/Super Fast Search Function
Turning JOG DIAL with the press of the TRACK SEARCH/SEARCH button allows higher speed search. This function is convenient for CDs with many tracks.

Tempo Control
A two-step switch allows you to set the tempo range to either -16% +10% or +/-10%, while a long-stroke slide provides rapid control over playback speed.

Master Tempo
An industry first, this new Master Tempo control locks in the music's pitch even when the tempo changes. Now you can vary the beat with no change in vocal or instrument tone.

Playing Address
A light bar provides an at-a-glance graphic indication of elapsed playing.

Cue Functions
CUE POINT. You can set the cue point by a frame unit (1/75 second).

BACK CUE Function: Press the Cue button while playing the unit to go back to the cue point and start over. In addition, you can go back to the song's start point whenever you want at a press of the button.

AUTO CUE Function: Auto Cue automatically locates the song's start point even if it differs from the track's frame, allowing the player to start instantly at a press of the Play button.

CUE POINT SAMPLER Function: The sound from the memorized cue point for as long as 1 minute can be reproduced by one touch, which can be used as the start point check and the sampler. In addition, real time cue point input makes it easy to set and change the cue point.

Fader Start & Back Cue Play
When the CDJ-100S is used with DJM-500, DJM-300, or DJM-300-S mixer, You can start the music with a fader or cross fader, or use them to return to the cue point.

Relay Play
Connecting two CDJ-100S allows one song to be put on standby while the other plays (Auto cue must be on). Relay Play automatically starts the second unit at the end of the song for uninterrupted play. This continues back and forth until both discs are done.

Vibration-Proof Contruction
Vibration-Proof Construction is achieved by utilizing technology found in Pioneer's car-audio CD players. In addition, the CDJ-100S is equipped with Protect Guard to help avoid turning the power off, or ejecting a disc, accidentally, during your performance.

Digital Output
For digital recording (Normal play mode only).


Posted by Pointy on Apr-30-2003 08:29:

I'd go Sony if i was you.


Posted by -CosmicFire- on Apr-30-2003 08:42:

dude what u showed here is a car audio system or for home use cd player..
i chose these 2 because i had my resons..
its important to me it will be a singel cd player for djing stuff now home use


Posted by Vortex_SA on Apr-30-2003 09:04:

he was j/k w/u
anyway u got no reason to buy that amercian blah blah... its just useless, buy a cd player that has all the functions beside fxs, cos u wont use them i assure u... and replace that ugly behringer...


Posted by -CosmicFire- on Apr-30-2003 10:23:

what do u mean by that..
i can use most of these options..
i still think ill buy the american but i wanna know if there are lots of problems with it..


Posted by b|p|3m on Apr-30-2003 12:38:

I never try American DJ-Pro Scratch 2 but i heard some good response on it but i don't know how is the assistance out of USA. Now it's about an year that i use Piooner Cdj-s 100 and i have a very good response about it, i never had problems and they worked always very well and there are assistance point in all over the world. Watching the features American DJ-Pro Scratch are more likely a piooner cdj-1000 so...


Posted by Xavier on Apr-30-2003 12:40:

try before you buy, get a cd player with a quick compfortable response time when pressing play


Posted by -CosmicFire- on Apr-30-2003 14:55:

how can i try these?!?!
i dont know anyone who uses these stuff..
none of my friends are djs or something...
the american pro scratch 2 hs much more features than the pioneer.. :[


Posted by Nabistai on Apr-30-2003 17:35:

I wouldn't know anything wrong about the pioneer cdj-100S.


Posted by -CosmicFire- on Apr-30-2003 17:57:

i know...
but what about the PS2
are there manny problems with it??


Posted by Tony Morello on Apr-30-2003 20:39:

i've used the pioneer cd players and they're great, but it seems like you're wanting to get the american dj cd players
so just go buy them then

if you're unsure, test them out
go to a store that sells them and try them out

i doubt you'll find anyone on here that has played on both
so any opinions will be biased


Posted by -CosmicFire- on Apr-30-2003 20:57:

yeah dude...
i wanted to take the american dj but now i`v found the cdj-100s in 130$ +- for 2!!!!!!!!
so now i really dont know..
i know cdj-100s is used in most of clubs so it will be more comfortable to use...

**The 100s has a seamless loop option?!?


Posted by Ghostface on Apr-30-2003 22:17:

I think you're getting confused btw the cdj100 and the cdj1000.
cdj100 is the small simple model while the cdj1000 is a massive fucking black brick which has heaps more stuff but costs heaps more $$$.

I've got a pair of cdj100s and if you just want them for beatmatching then they are great and def at least try them. If you want to do tricky shit then you might want to lokk elsewhere. As far as i'm aware there's no looping function on the cdj100.


Posted by -CosmicFire- on Apr-30-2003 22:19:

bah 10x dude..
the looping is very important to meh coz how will i beatmach with the mixer when i can make loop :[
i like longer beatmachings..


Posted by Ghostface on Apr-30-2003 22:35:

yeah well as i said the 100 is great for basics but has been surpassed now. Have you considered the cdj800?


Posted by -CosmicFire- on Apr-30-2003 22:51:

the 800 will cost me to much money now...
ill get the american dj ps2


Posted by Tony Morello on May-01-2003 00:28:

why do you want a loop function?
trance is long enough as it is

sure long mixes are great, and you can do that with any cd player
you just have to beatmatch it quick and throw it in right away

and if you're just learning, you're not going to be doing 5 minute mixes anyway


Posted by loki on May-01-2003 01:18:

I'll throw my thoughts out there on the American Audio ProScratch 2 ...

I've got two of them, and they are great. When I use them in tandem with my Technics, all sorts of possibilities are uncovered. The main thing is that they are designed for Turntablism. If you aren't into scratching and beat juggling, I wouldn't buy them. In fact, if you are bound and determined to get American Audio equipment, look at the PSX. The PSX doesn't offer the scratching and beat juggling that the PS2 offers, but it has the effects (plus a few more, if I'm not mistaken) and it's cheaper. Both CD players are very nice, just not the most attractive things in the world. Functionally speaking, they are great turntables. I am very happy with mine!

I've never used the Pioneer, so I can't say which is better. It's all about how you use the equipment. If you are talented, you will find a way to make the best of what you have


Posted by shawnb on May-01-2003 01:39:

buy off me

im selling numarks axis 8 and a mixer. email me for details



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