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U.S. warns Canada against easing pot laws

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/05/02/us_pot_rxn030502

If your of the opinion that marijuna shouldnt be legal, which most for better or worse the majority of the U.S goverment feels, than his comments make sense. If it's legalized there, it's going to cause a lot of problems down here.

Whatever, it should be up to the people of Canada who determine what is legal and illegal in their society. IF they feel that pot should be legalized, fine ... if they feel that marrying your sister or daughter should be legal fine. The US has no say in what they should and should not do. Instead of working on changing their laws, we should strengthen our borders if we are so concerned about the impact of their marijuana legislation.

I don't smoke, but why are countries so against pot? I mean it's a substance with proven health benefits to the severly ill. I don't understand how pot is so much more damaging than say cigarettes or alcohol.

it isn't being legalized. its just being decriminalized.
so, you'll just get a fine instead of going to jail.

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Originally posted by quddha it isn't being legalized. its just being decriminalized. so, you'll just get a fine instead of going to jail.

yah thats the main deal here. plus the fact that the US looks old, stogy and retarded for thinking usage will go south of the border if its decriminalized in another country.

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Murray said Canada's reputation in the global community would be forever altered if it decided to decriminalize pot. "It's not just Canada's relationship with the United States that would change; it's Canada's relationship with the world," he said.

ahhh idle threats- how the US got where it is today.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story...,947880,00.html

yah- MJ use is going to increase because of canada...sure|

If the States respond by upping the tarrifs on our grain and lumber, we'll have to start shipping more weed down south to compensate then...

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Originally posted by occrider Whatever, it should be up to the people of Canada who determine what is legal and illegal in their society. IF they feel that pot should be legalized, fine ... if they feel that marrying your sister or daughter should be legal fine. The US has no say in what they should and should not do. Instead of working on changing their laws, we should strengthen our borders if we are so concerned about the impact of their marijuana legislation. I don't smoke, but why are countries so against pot? I mean it's a substance with proven health benefits to the severly ill. I don't understand how pot is so much more damaging than say cigarettes or alcohol.

totally agree.

the feds raided a ranch south of where I live, because they were growing pot for medical purposes. also a city north of mine arrested a man employed by the city for growing pot for medical purposes too. a trail was held, the jury was uninformed that he was employed by the city, and convicted him. after the trail, those who served on the jury were told about the man being employed by the city itself and all of them said they would change their verdict. Damn you John Ashcroft!

we have lax drug laws, and america has lax gun laws... who are they to judge what other countries do? no one eve imposed sanctions on america for their stance on guns.... the leader of the free nations should let democracy run its course, and if that course is towards decriminalizing pot, then so be it...

personally, i don't think its fair for someone to have a criminal record for something so petty... imagine having your future ruined because you decided to jaywalk one day... ok.. wait.. so maybe smoking dope is a bit worse than jaywalking... but you get the point...

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Originally posted by mr. poopyhead imagine having your future ruined because you decided to jaywalk one day... ok.. wait.. so maybe smoking dope is a bit worse than jaywalking... but you get the point...

Actually it's not. See, this is what government propaganda does to the general populace.

How is smoking weed worse than jaywalking? When you jaywalk, at least you have the chance of dying. A horrible death, no less. Marijuana is pretty much totally safe as far as consumption is concerned.

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Originally posted by Alccode Actually it's not. See, this is what government propaganda does to the general populace. How is smoking weed worse than jaywalking? When you jaywalk, at least you have the chance of dying. A horrible death, no less. Marijuana is pretty much totally safe as far as consumption is concerned.

Except for the fact that it'll give you lung cancer as easily as cigarrettes

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Originally posted by occrider Except for the fact that it'll give you lung cancer as easily as cigarrettes

if u smoke it everyday probably

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Originally posted by Alccode Actually it's not. See, this is what government propaganda does to the general populace. How is smoking weed worse than jaywalking? When you jaywalk, at least you have the chance of dying. A horrible death, no less. Marijuana is pretty much totally safe as far as consumption is concerned.

^^^
Because it's healthy to inhale carcinogenic smoke and hold it in.



Canada can do whatever the fuck it wants to. Someone made the point about gun laws. Both drug use and gun owmnership are personal freedom issues...

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Originally posted by DaveSaenz ^^^ Because it's healthy to inhale carcinogenic smoke and hold it in.

I'll stick to beer thank you very much. The only drug where they actually say it's healthy to take! Well ... in moderation at least.

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Originally posted by occrider I'll stick to beer thank you very much. The only drug where they actually say it's healthy to take! Well ... in moderation at least.

Beer can fuck me up much more than pot, no contest. You can't OD on weed, but sure can with alcohol. I can smoke every day and be perfectly functional, I couldn't say the same thing about alcohol though.

I'm now studying abroad in Amsterdam, and honestly, I don't want to return to the US ever again .

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Originally posted by occrider I don't understand how pot is so much more damaging than say cigarettes or alcohol.

That's the thing, it's not!!!!

I relationship with the US right now isn't good and if we make pot legal, our relationship will become worse.

It's our Government, not yours, let US decide.......

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Originally posted by DJ P�O Beer can fuck me up much more than pot, no contest. You can't OD on weed, but sure can with alcohol. I can smoke every day and be perfectly functional, I couldn't say the same thing about alcohol though. I'm now studying abroad in Amsterdam, and honestly, I don't want to return to the US ever again .

smoking loads of cannabis can do wonders to your studying habits...have fun

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Originally posted by quddha it isn't being legalized. its just being decriminalized. so, you'll just get a fine instead of going to jail.

thats exactly the point. and once again the US is to stupid to realize anything. its Canada's choice on how they want to control Marijuana.

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Originally posted by TheDemon thats exactly the point. and once again the US is to stupid to realize anything. its Canada's choice on how they want to control Marijuana.

And on the other side of things ultimately, it's the US's choice on how they want to conduct trade.

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Originally posted by occrider And on the other side of things ultimately, it's the US's choice on how they want to conduct trade.

It's that a threat?

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Originally posted by occrider And on the other side of things ultimately, it's the US's choice on how they want to conduct trade.

Haha..oh come on... let's not get into a who-runs-the-show debate.

Besides, this decriminalization thing has been going on for years here already. Check out the thread on this very topic in the T.O. board. So why should the U.S. government step up pressure now?

(erm.. .I think I will answer myself: the fact that it is now "officially" announced by the Chretien gov't means that it is entering public awareness... and since the U.S. gov't is against drug use etc., they want to step up and stop it now. Drug use north of the border will inevitably affect drug use south of the border, if only in a trade aspect - i.e. organized crime will profit from this.)

Well, at least they should do it in a more respectful and diplomatic manner. Not in a "do as I say" tone; the sovereignty of other nations is something to be respected. But I guess that's been brushed aside now (look at Iraq).

Maybe we'll get bombed "pre-emptively" for having the potential to have more drug use and thus the potential to fuel organize crime and therefore the potential to indirectly support terrorist groups that may potentially be in the U.S.?? Egads!!! America is under threat!!! Time to flex the military machine again and topple the evil, terrorist regime of Jean Chretien!!!!

(That last paragraph was tongue-in-cheek lol )

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Originally posted by DaveSaenz Because it's healthy to inhale carcinogenic smoke and hold it in.

I'm glad you agree!

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Canada can do whatever the fuck it wants to. Someone made the point about gun laws. Both drug use and gun owmnership are personal freedom issues...

Ahhhh... but what if that choice ultimately affects you in a negative way? What will you do then? Impose your will on the other? In that case, then, where will you draw the line?

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Originally posted by LiquidX It's that a threat?

Haha oh I think that the US should back out of telling Canada what to do. I'm just saying that ultimately despite the fact that the "US is too stupid too realise anything", they have the right to trade as they see fit

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Originally posted by occrider Haha oh I think that the US should back out of telling Canada what to do. I'm just saying that ultimately despite the fact that the "US is too stupid too realise anything", they have the right to trade as they see fit

Should liberal politicians gain office anytime soon in the US, this trade thing wouldn't be too much of a threat. What you're describing is basically another effect of US globalization and the imposing of its value system on other nations. This means that you shouldn't smoke pot but rather buy a million dollar security system and pay taxes out of your a$$ to protect yourself from these zombie-like junkfood munchers.

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Originally posted by D'Paul Should liberal politicians gain office anytime soon in the US, this trade thing wouldn't be too much of a threat. What you're describing is basically another effect of US globalization and the imposing of its value system on other nations. This means that you shouldn't smoke pot but rather buy a million dollar security system and pay taxes out of your a$$ to protect yourself from these zombie-like junkfood munchers.

Oh don't worry, I was joking. The US is not going to alter trade agreements with Canada over something as silly as pot. We probably couldn't even impose trade barriers if we really wanted to as stipulated by NAFTA

-Well, after seen the US delaying the signing of Free-Trade with Chile, which by the way is the example of democracy and free trade market in South America, and which is on the top of NON corrupt countries ( right after the US ) and with all this other qualities, just by NOT agreeing all the way on the Attack Iraq crap.. it's just plain senseless, so really, I can expect anything from the Bush Administration with this matter.

Im also lurking to see what will happen with this 4 someting millions that the EU will impose on the US ( Tradking taxing ). What will the response be.. mmm so anything can happen with today's administration, the unexpected can always be the .. Expected

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