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Posted by SgtFoo on May-05-2003 04:29:

TT comparison thread

I'd just like to get our ideas together on comparing turntables available, based on these things...
-price -quality/reliability -namebrand

so for example, lets list the top 10 brand names for direct-driven TTs, in order of price and then in order of quality/reliability.
The only names I've heard of so far are
Technics, Numark & Gemini.
I just think this would help me and anyone who's shopping for TTs.


Posted by Tiger777 on May-05-2003 19:13:

EXCUSE ME? A technics, belt driven??

Belt driven TT's suck, remember that!
You better ask for Direct driven TTs...


Posted by basd on May-05-2003 20:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Tiger777
EXCUSE ME? A technics, belt driven??

Belt driven TT's suck, remember that!
You better ask for Direct driven TTs...

And where did you read about belt-driven TT's?


Posted by ChavezHype on May-05-2003 21:41:

well if you ask me, from the little I've tried. I'd put Technics at the top along with Numark then Vestax then Stanton then Gemini from the main players. However if you're into scratching I'd put Vestax at the top (UMC's TT - PDX-2000) then it really depends - a close call in between stanton and technics and numark. Numark is hi-tec, but thats probably not why you'd buy TT's anyway. It's got better stats as we all know, but as everyone will at least say, you can't compare it with 20 years industry standards. As of now, Techs are built like tanks no one can tell from any of the others because simply they haven't been around as long. They're all comparable, but for me, Numark is my choice because I'll just take the risk. If they don't fall apart in 5 years, then they're great. As long as you try out each and get aquainted with them both, then you know what to expect wherever you go to DJ. If you want to tour, why not just go for what you desire? No one's gonna force you to use their own table(usually). However none of the other tables are particularyly "bad" unless you go low end. Watch out for really cheap tables, as you usually get your money's worth.
Just my 2 cents.


Posted by Greedy on May-06-2003 01:03:

i like tables like Stanton 100's because you can change the pitch to higher %'s. . . . so no more slowing down tracks for the next track you want to drop. . . .that way you can keep pumping beats faster and faster.


Posted by Tiger777 on May-06-2003 19:45:

Damn, you're right, allthough I read it 3 times, I read BELT-DRIVED... Damn, my brains, bad, VERY bad... anyway

1)Technics
2)Stanton
3)Numark
4)Gemini(especially the PDT6000)
5)Vestax
6)DAP
7)Jb systems
8)Denon
9)Akiyama
10) American DJ


Posted by Tony Morello on May-07-2003 00:19:

it's difficult to actually rank turntables

because there's so many brands and models out there
and i doubt there's anyone who's played on them all
therefore, any opinions will obviously be biased

and it all falls back on what people plan to use the TT for
different TTs are better for turntablists while others are better for house/trance mixing


Posted by Greedy on May-07-2003 00:41:

I dont doubt technic's quality, but i would rather spend less on tables that have options like the stanton str8-100 and i certainly wouldnt mind spending a lil bit more money on tables like Numark TTX1.


Posted by DjTasper on May-07-2003 00:47:

lets not forget about gemini's PDT-6000 these are amazing for the price and all the specs meet or exceed techs. as for industry standard they just came out so they can't be to popular yet. i just bought a pair though waiting to get them in the mail. i'll post up here and tell you how they feel


Posted by prestige on May-07-2003 02:15:

Busy Child, i feel what you said, and DJ_Shockwav is true also..

imo, if i would rank TT's id say..

1.techs/numark
2.stanton
3.gemini

i belive that techs and numark are at the top of the list right now,
technics has been at the top for quite some time, ti'll nuamrk came out with the counterpart to the techies, the TTX1... i'd have to say they have equaled out


Posted by Greedy on May-07-2003 02:30:

if numarks or stantons took their tables and just put an aluminum case on it . . .theyd be a serious threat to techs.


Posted by DJ-Fuq on May-07-2003 03:04:

why aluminium
techs r plastic


Posted by DaveSZ on May-07-2003 10:59:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-Fuq
why aluminium
techs r plastic


On the bottom....

All the people who said that techs were the best are biased because they probably own them. At least give some reasons why one TT is better than another like BUsy child did. I think everyone can agree that belt driven suck.

Dave


Posted by -CosmicFire- on May-07-2003 12:19:

i like the Numark TTX1 dunno bout the others


Posted by Tiger777 on May-07-2003 12:32:

When I saw those TTX1's i thought, I WANT this TT, but when I saw its price, I went looking for alternatives. And, the gemini PDT6000 popped up. I read reviews about it, that sayd it's (almost) as good as the TTX1 for a better price. When I read some reviews about the TTX1, I read some good things(about the motor, sound demption, ...) but I also read, that the arm could be better worked out. Now, I didn't feel them yet, so i'm not sure about that at all.


Posted by venomdx on May-07-2003 12:37:

In Australia, Technics SL1200 mk2 is quite a lot cheaper than Numark TTX1, so for me I would obviously buy the technics.

The Numark deck is very nice, but it doesn't have the tried and true reliability and accuracy. In a couple of years, if the Numark TTX1 is still performing then we may have a new king of the TTs.


Posted by kr00t0n on May-07-2003 12:39:

Tech mk3's are the shizzit, and the mk5G's are pure orgasm inducing to look at (cant wait to try them).
I was VERY dissapointed with the highest end Stantons (STR8100's I think they called), my mate has em, and they are crap. the platters as sensitive as my mate shitty Numark TT1650's

Still wanna try the TTX1's and PDX-2000's tho


Posted by Qtip_00 on May-07-2003 14:30:

yo I got 2 TTX1's off ebay for $680. I think that is about the same price as two tech 1200's aint it. Ill let you know how they are when they arrive. I have heard very good things about the new TTX1's.


Posted by Tiger777 on May-07-2003 19:23:

And I heard some bad things about the arm...


Posted by Greedy on May-07-2003 22:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Tiger777
When I saw those TTX1's i thought, I WANT this TT, but when I saw its price, I went looking for alternatives. And, the gemini PDT6000 popped up. I read reviews about it, that sayd it's (almost) as good as the TTX1 for a better price. When I read some reviews about the TTX1, I read some good things(about the motor, sound demption, ...) but I also read, that the arm could be better worked out. Now, I didn't feel them yet, so i'm not sure about that at all.


I had the opportunity to spend a good year working with Stanton Str 100's, Technics, and Gemini PDT6000.

Of course, the technics were rock solid with dead accurate pitch control. The Geminis were decent, the pitch was OK, but overall, it felt really cheap. Also, when you set the needle on a track and turn off the platter, the platter spins back a little. Not really a big deal, but really annoying. I liked the Stantons the best because they were good and i liked the extra pitch % that it offers so that you never have to slow down record A for record B. Not only that, stantons are significantly cheaper


Posted by DJ-Fuq on May-07-2003 22:57:

quote:
Originally posted by DaveSaenz
On the bottom....


no the bottom is rubber


Posted by DJ-Fuq on May-07-2003 23:49:

uh oh. i just checked the technics site and it says the cases r aluminium. When i got my 1210s about 5 years ago i immediatly had the cases replaced with translucent green plastic ones and threw the original ones away. looks like that was a bad move.


Posted by Blithe on May-08-2003 04:10:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-Fuq
uh oh. i just checked the technics site and it says the cases r aluminium. When i got my 1210s about 5 years ago i immediatly had the cases replaced with translucent green plastic ones and threw the original ones away. looks like that was a bad move.


Whoa... that sounds funky... got any pictures of your setup? And where can I get my hands on some cases for my tables?


Posted by DaveSZ on May-08-2003 12:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Busy Child
I had the opportunity to spend a good year working with Stanton Str 100's, Technics, and Gemini PDT6000.

Of course, the technics were rock solid with dead accurate pitch control. The Geminis were decent, the pitch was OK, but overall, it felt really cheap. Also, when you set the needle on a track and turn off the platter, the platter spins back a little. Not really a big deal, but really annoying. I liked the Stantons the best because they were good and i liked the extra pitch % that it offers so that you never have to slow down record A for record B. Not only that, stantons are significantly cheaper


So you bought the stanton STR 100s?


Posted by venomdx on May-08-2003 12:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Busy Child

Of course, the technics were rock solid with dead accurate pitch control.


The accuracy of the techs is what I think is their best asset.


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