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Posted by Mr.Mystery on May-09-2003 15:32:

Labels, labels, labels...

Since some of you people seem to be overly obsessed with getting signed/released/whatever, I thought I'd post this:

http://webone.com.au/~eye/propagand...oblemswith.html

Posted by Martin McG on May-09-2003 15:39:

lol great read man!

i dont think i fancy the swimming through the trench though! maybe ill just leave it

Posted by extalin on May-09-2003 15:52:

thats why i want to put out my own material my self. i just have to wait till i get some money (i.e. get out of college and get a job). hell maybe ill even start a entertainment company someday .

Posted by Haak on May-09-2003 15:59:

hehe, good read. thanks

Posted by attacc on May-09-2003 16:17:

and the moral is: buy less music (download more) because the artists won't see any of the money anyway

Posted by Haak on May-09-2003 16:21:

haha

Posted by DJ Chrono on May-10-2003 03:47:

This was definately a good read, but it seems to apply for bigger labels, rather than the majority of small-mid trance labels.

My personal thoughts:

These record contracts are tricky. They are worded strangely, very difficult to understand, and can limit almost everything you do in the future. It is very important that you make sure you understand the contract before you sign anything. What may seem like a good deal could turn out to put a halt on your future music career for many years. If you are serious about your music, and you don't want to be stuck in the future because of a foolish mistake, Get a lawyer!

Posted by Sand Leaper on May-10-2003 14:37:

quote:
Originally posted by attacc
and the moral is: buy less music (download more) because the artists won't see any of the money anyway

ROFL,werd up!Good read,Mr.Mystert,even tho I suspect that things are a bit different since that article covers bands,not producers/djs.

Posted by George Kendall on Jun-05-2003 17:45:

hahah good read...

We're not all bad though.

Our label are more interested about getting the tracks pressed & released than the money coming in.

Of course we dont have that much money to offer people anyway, they will still do ok for themselves

anyway, if anybody fancies sending me demos...pm me for my address and we'll talk

Posted by ++ EGO ++ on Jun-06-2003 05:23:

loL! good stufffff

Posted by ABSYNTH on Jun-06-2003 17:30:

he he, you make me want it even more!

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Oct-15-2003 08:02:

I think this one is getting relevant again...

Posted by Massive84 on Oct-15-2003 09:14:

well yea, but you know thats how shitty this world is..

You can go to the club and risk to been beaten to death by some guy full with drugs, or a group of people that dislike you..

You can drive a car and risk an accident with a drunk whore driver.

And now these days, you can't even work in a skywalker, you mite see a plain infront of you..

you have to try to know mystery

Posted by Sebraa on Oct-15-2003 19:47:

good read!! thanks

MAKE YOUR FRIENDS HAPPY!! THAT ALL WHAT COUNTS!
ITS PROUD TO BE IMPORTANT BUT MORE IMPORTANT IS TO BE PROUD

sry for caps lock and that scooter lyric

Posted by State of Matter on Oct-15-2003 23:57:

Your quote makes no sense at all. The phrase "It's proud" makes no sense Scooter did not make this up btw, it goes way back, and the original quote is:

It's nice to be important but its more important to be nice.

Anyways the article is a good read, its more geared towards bands though that have all kinds of agents and representation and studio fees. For producers who simply sign over tracks to labels this isn't really applicable.

Posted by Bondor on Oct-17-2003 03:45:

i dont really see how this aplies to us that much (trance/electronica porudcers) for one we all have our own studio thus according to his numbers we can just drop recording expence alltogether + $150,000

only an idiot would pay $5,000 for artwork when he could get someone in college or on ta to do it for free

Mastering: $10,000, BULLSHIT... the mastering companie that i worked at over the summer a year ago was charging $800 a cd ...and they are the BEST in the seattle/NW area, they do Pearl Jams CD's.

i dont really know that much about the price tags on the rest of the stuff but im definatley questioning his data.

Posted by azior on Oct-17-2003 12:37:

Re: Labels, labels, labels...

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Since some of you people seem to be overly obsessed with getting signed/released/whatever...

what's wrong with wanting others to hear the music you like and love, which you've spend some long hours on to make it sound the way you wanted it to sound...

but yeah it's true, watch out with contracts... but that goes for walking down the street too: watch the road before crossing it...

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Oct-17-2003 12:38:

Re: Re: Labels, labels, labels...

quote:
Originally posted by azior
what's wrong with wanting others to hear the music you like and love, which you've spend some long hours on to make it sound the way you wanted it to sound...

Nothing.
But it seems like that to some people here getting signed is the only reason they do music.

Posted by Taz on Oct-19-2003 04:32:

I read this very article a long time ago, 3-4 years at least, and it might even be pre-Napster. I wonder how much has changed since Steve Albini wrote it.

I agree that it doesn't apply as much to us; looks like it's more about hard market than niche market.

BTW you should hear some stories about the politics of cheese (DJ Sammy etc.)

Posted by The Designer on Oct-20-2003 10:21:

Re: Labels, labels, labels...

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Since some of you people seem to be overly obsessed with getting signed/released/whatever, I thought I'd post this:

http://webone.com.au/~eye/propagand...oblemswith.html

How is your current status of your record deal? ( I read somewhere that you were signed )

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Oct-20-2003 12:34:

Re: Re: Labels, labels, labels...

quote:
Originally posted by The Designer
How is your current status of your record deal? ( I read somewhere that you were signed )

We are currently waiting for our first 12" to come out. It would probably had come out already but there was some hassle concerning the remix that was originally going to be on the flip and we had to bin it... so right now we're waiting for the new mix to get ready.