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Posted by DjTasper on May-11-2003 05:52:

BD to DD

so i a few days ago i got the pdt-600 originally (for the past 1.5 years) i have spun on beltdrives (stanton str8-50). i was awesome at beatmatching on those and i could keep records matched for minutes with no problem, it was just alot of work. Now i got the new pdt-6000 and i can't beatmatch worth a shit. you can adjust the torque and shit so does neone think i should turn the torque all the way down and get used to them or what. I know the tables aren't fucked up cuz the few time that i have matched they have stayed on beat the whole time.

Posted by venomdx on May-11-2003 06:41:

Just keep practicing.

It takes a while to get used to new decks.

Posted by Arsalan on May-11-2003 08:14:

yea man its not your beatmatching , you just have to get use them and once you do , you will be in heaven....

when i got my techs , it was kinda like learning beatmatching all over again

im not totally use to them yet because i got them recently but i can see how the pitch is like perfect...

it just takes a little bit.. anwyays good luck

Posted by Tiger777 on May-11-2003 16:55:

it's not only the change of deck that makes it hard. But, a BD and a DD spin totally different... But, if you say you can BM perfect on a belt driven TT, there should be no problem if you get used to the fact that your PDT CAN keep its speed.(where a BD TT doesn't)

Posted by DjTasper on May-11-2003 22:36:

ya i finally got it down pretty good i just have a hard to fine tuning it cuz on BD i would just touch the record and it would slow down hella now i am using the pitch fader and all that..

I thought i knew what the hell the key adjustment fader was for but i have no clue and i still don't can anyone explain it?

Posted by Blithe on May-12-2003 00:26:

Heh... Remember what they say... If you can make a mix sound good on trashy decks, then upgrading should be no sweat after awhile. It's like training for a running event. If you run a 1/2 mile race, you want to maybe run 4 miles a day, so when you get to that 1/2 mile, it'll be cake.

So just keep at it, it'll all turn out for the better in the end.

quote:
Originally posted by Arsalan
yea man its not your beatmatching , you just have to get use them and once you do , you will be in heaven....

when i got my techs , it was kinda like learning beatmatching all over again

im not totally use to them yet because i got them recently but i can see how the pitch is like perfect...

it just takes a little bit.. anwyays good luck

I was curious man, I have the same turntables you used to have (The numark 1520's) And I was wondering what the differences you notice when you're mixing. I know I have to babysit my tables quite a lot to keep them matched, and sometimes don't get to pay attention to the quality of the sound, and the EQ of the new tune I'm bringing in.

Also, which 1200's did you get, and for how much? I really need to think about upgrading.

Posted by Arsalan on May-12-2003 01:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Blithe
I was curious man, I have the same turntables you used to have (The numark 1520's) And I was wondering what the differences you notice when you're mixing. I know I have to babysit my tables quite a lot to keep them matched, and sometimes don't get to pay attention to the quality of the sound, and the EQ of the new tune I'm bringing in.

Also, which 1200's did you get, and for how much? I really need to think about upgrading.

well i only got my MK2 1200s recently and im still getting use to them , i was really used to the numark 1520's when i got my 1200s so the first couple of days i couldnt beathmatch for shit...

but now i can totally see the difference , when i beatmatch i dont need to touch anything haha its great.

Posted by Blithe on May-12-2003 03:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Arsalan
well i only got my MK2 1200s recently and im still getting use to them , i was really used to the numark 1520's when i got my 1200s so the first couple of days i couldnt beathmatch for shit...

but now i can totally see the difference , when i beatmatch i dont need to touch anything haha its great.

*Drools*

I'm tempted to go splurge... That sounds fantastic. One more quick thing bro: Have you ever noticed on your old TT's that whenever you're song's pitch would hover around the 0% mark, (bumped up either slightly up or slightly back) Would it suddenly jump once you moved it away from 0? I find that I have to consistantly mix at a faster BPM in order to keep my songs away from that 0% mark. Did you have this problem in the past? And are you experiencing it with your current setup? I find it limits me to not play certain songs that fall in the 'no play zone'.

Cheers.

Posted by DJ Chrono on May-12-2003 04:12:

most turntables have this 'click' in the pitch, that causes alittle jump, even the MKIIs.

Tables I know that have a 'clickless' pitch, eliminating this problem, are the tech M3D's and the vestax PDX-2000.

Posted by jonnycarcinogen on May-12-2003 05:40:

I halfway upgraded from belt drives to a Stanton Str8-80 direct drive last year (meaning I only got one new TT) and had those same transition/beat matching problems. It took me at least a month to get the hang of how a direct drive works and how to use it correctly. I like the way the Str8-80 looks but I'm not all that pleased with its pitch accuracy. Those old Numark belt drives (which were my first as part of a dj in a box set) held pitch better than the Stanton. Now I just found out I'm getting called back to my old job so I plan on ditching my old shit and getting some 1200 M3Ds & a new mixer this summer with the money I'll make. I'm sick of the frustration those tables are causing me. It's like having to fight your tables constantly (mainly the Stanton) to keep matched. With almost 2 1/2 years experience I know that I know how to beatmatch but just can't do it with these shitty TTs.

Posted by Blithe on May-12-2003 16:17:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Chrono
most turntables have this 'click' in the pitch, that causes alittle jump, even the MKIIs.

Tables I know that have a 'clickless' pitch, eliminating this problem, are the tech M3D's and the vestax PDX-2000.

Yeah, it can really be a problem. There is that zone where I just can't hit the pitch I need, so I have to put the pitch as close as possible and be constantly flicking the record manually. Or the other option would be to change the pitch on the live song. (Not preferable). That 'gap' can really be a problem.

If the M3D's have a 'clickless' pitch, that sounds like a real life-saver.

Posted by Tiger777 on May-12-2003 19:58:

If my memory is correct... The SL1200 Doesn't have that.

Posted by JohnSmith on May-12-2003 20:16:

the MKII has it, but the M3D doesn't, which is the main reason i got the M3Ds

but, even on MK2s, it's possible to open up your deck and remove some little ball bearings, and voila, the click is gone.

Posted by Tiger777 on May-12-2003 20:19:

Those M'es keep confusing me

Posted by DJ Chrono on May-12-2003 22:33:

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith
the MKII has it, but the M3D doesn't, which is the main reason i got the M3Ds

but, even on MK2s, it's possible to open up your deck and remove some little ball bearings, and voila, the click is gone.

yeah lol, I must have got them confused.

Posted by Blithe on May-13-2003 03:16:

Posted by Tiger777 on May-13-2003 18:58:

I have this problem with reading too...
If you open the TT, you can get the little ball that causes the click out...