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Walk Against [Male] Violence!... are YOU gonna be there?
This THursday, May 15th, 2003... the Walk Against Male Violence is @ Queen's Park! Sign up through your school (or maybe jsut show up).
I'll most likely be there!! Will any other TAs be there to represent??
I'm gonna go there and pick fights
I remember when this walk started. I was in high-school and some guy came to talk about it (like 8/9 years ago or something)...
I was opposed to it becuase it singled out *male* violence - when violence is a genderless, raceless problem. I was one of maybe 100 people out of 1500 in my high-school who didn't go to the event. Instead we each donated $20 to the united way.
Consider this: Immagine if there was a walk against jamacian violence?? Or immagine if there was a walk against german violence, american violence, russian violence, serbian violence...
Yes, there is violence against women - which is sick and disgusting - but for me all violence upsets me - which is why I can't support a walk against MALE violence - but I would support a walk agaist VIOLENCE.
So - to my point - has this walk changed any since I was first introduced to it so many years ago?
Admitedly, I was very bothered by the guy who came and spoke to us in grade 9. I left the assembly feeling like I came from a violence-mongering group (men).
Coming from a home where I had to boot out my step-father becuase he hit my mom when I was 16 I am all against violence - don't get me wrong. I just don't like feeling like a perpetrator when it isn't waranted (regardless of statistics. I could bring up race/crime stats (from the US) that would make people sick).
I -might- give money to this group - but only if they drop their anti-men attitude - and adopt an anti-violence view (of course a tax receipt would be required).
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| Originally posted by SgtFoo This THursday, May 15th, 2003... the Walk Against Male Violence is @ Queen's Park! Sign up through your school (or maybe jsut show up). I'll most likely be there!! Will any other TAs be there to represent?? |
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| Originally posted by rabbitjoker I remember when this walk started. I was in high-school and some guy came to talk about it (like 8/9 years ago or something)... I was opposed to it becuase it singled out *male* violence - when violence is a genderless, raceless problem. I was one of maybe 100 people out of 1500 in my high-school who didn't go to the event. Instead we each donated $20 to the united way. Consider this: Immagine if there was a walk against jamacian violence?? Or immagine if there was a walk against german violence, american violence, russian violence, serbian violence... Yes, there is violence against women - which is sick and disgusting - but for me all violence upsets me - which is why I can't support a walk against MALE violence - but I would support a walk agaist VIOLENCE. So - to my point - has this walk changed any since I was first introduced to it so many years ago? Admitedly, I was very bothered by the guy who came and spoke to us in grade 9. I left the assembly feeling like I came from a violence-mongering group (men). Coming from a home where I had to boot out my step-father becuase he hit my mom when I was 16 I am all against violence - don't get me wrong. I just don't like feeling like a perpetrator when it isn't waranted (regardless of statistics. I could bring up race/crime stats (from the US) that would make people sick). I -might- give money to this group - but only if they drop their anti-men attitude - and adopt an anti-violence view (of course a tax receipt would be required). |
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| Originally posted by xllilkittylx Only male violence? what about female violence? hey... it happens! |
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| Originally posted by xllilkittylx Only male violence? what about female violence? hey... it happens! |
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| Originally posted by cap Yes, but the ending result is usually a few scratches and torn clothes, why would we protest against this? |
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| Originally posted by Endlesswave Exactly. I'm for what Rj has explained also. Well said man. Btw, welcome to TA lilkitty. |
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| Originally posted by xllilkittylx what are you talking about?!.. girls are actually really brutal.. we could break a couple of bones and even kill, and i bet there are some out of control females that do, and you SHOULD protest against it. ps. clothes are expensive :P can't afford to have them torn!! =P. |
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| Originally posted by cap It was a joke its true tho.. i've actually seen some crazy girls goin at it |
the way i understood the topic was that this was a walk against violence caused TO men not BY men. i'm i right?
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| Originally posted by StereoPrincess the way i understood the topic was that this was a walk against violence caused TO men not BY men. i'm i right? |
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| Originally posted by xllilkittylx what are you talking about?!.. girls are actually really brutal.. we could break a couple of bones and even kill, and i bet there are some out of control females that do, and you SHOULD protest against it. ps. clothes are expensive :P can't afford to have them torn!! =P. |
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| Originally posted by StereoPrincess the way i understood the topic was that this was a walk against violence caused TO men not BY men. i'm i right? |
I agree with RJ... this is a perfect example of how society has taken discrimination -by- a group and turned it into discrimination -against- that group. White hetero males are apparently all a bunch of racist homophobic chauvinists. It's gettin' old.
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| I'm gonna go there and pick fights - - from Cap |
agree with RJ on a lot of points... as far as I know I am not gonna walk for shit... as it ain't gonna help the cause in anyway... people just need to be more concious of what other people do to each other (i.e. spousal abuse is being commited) and actually do something about that...
i'm disapointed myself
i'm a guy.. i'm not violent. i don't see why i have to walk and support something against male violence. Freaken girl the other day wanted to kick my ass at school cuz i accidentally walked into her. Doesn't that make her violent as well?
NOW, i've seen guys beat up girls but like RJ said, violence IS violence. I personally wouldn't mind supporting a walk against violence but a walk against men violence? Comeon, u gotta be kidding me!
i wanna write a letter to that MOFO promoting this walk.... any one got their email address?
RJ
very well said mate!!
look I'm not being particular or saying that violence isn't universal, and boundless. I agree with what all of you have said so far. I'm going b/c my friend wants to go, and I feel like a day off of school, and I just feel like going down town. $20 isn't much for me so it's nothing out of my way.
I simply wanted to know if any TAs would be there.
...gosh!
i'm gonna be there cause it's a field trip for phys ed at my school.. don't ask why
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| Originally posted by rabbitjoker I remember when this walk started. I was in high-school and some guy came to talk about it (like 8/9 years ago or something)... I was opposed to it becuase it singled out *male* violence - when violence is a genderless, raceless problem. I was one of maybe 100 people out of 1500 in my high-school who didn't go to the event. Instead we each donated $20 to the united way. Consider this: Immagine if there was a walk against jamacian violence?? Or immagine if there was a walk against german violence, american violence, russian violence, serbian violence... Yes, there is violence against women - which is sick and disgusting - but for me all violence upsets me - which is why I can't support a walk against MALE violence - but I would support a walk agaist VIOLENCE. So - to my point - has this walk changed any since I was first introduced to it so many years ago? Admitedly, I was very bothered by the guy who came and spoke to us in grade 9. I left the assembly feeling like I came from a violence-mongering group (men). Coming from a home where I had to boot out my step-father becuase he hit my mom when I was 16 I am all against violence - don't get me wrong. I just don't like feeling like a perpetrator when it isn't waranted (regardless of statistics. I could bring up race/crime stats (from the US) that would make people sick). I -might- give money to this group - but only if they drop their anti-men attitude - and adopt an anti-violence view (of course a tax receipt would be required). |
which was not true, since I actually liked the girl lol, anyway I would never hit a lady, so i let her slap my ten times in the face, now who was violent there 
the TEACHER saw this, students witnessed it, and the school done NOTHING, imagine if it was a guy hitting a girl, what would've happened.
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| Originally posted by The Highroller i'm gonna be there cause it's a field trip for phys ed at my school.. don't ask why |
Too true. Through the media we hear about a lot of men beating their wives and what not. But by that same token there are acts of violence perpetrated by women as well. But as RJ so well put, everyday, in all parts of the world, there are acts of violence by humans against humans and animals. So if you're going to organize a walk against something, make it against violence in general. Make it against the injust killings, beatings and tortures caused by governments, wars and other violence-fueled campaigns.
Simply singling out one particular party is not going to make things any better. If anything it simply ignores the other victims of violence including men. I will not support any cause like this. I would never advocate violence against anyone least of all women but I really think they've missed the point and need to broaden their scope to include other victims of violence if they really want to build a stronger following.
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