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Posted by DJ Thanatos on May-14-2003 15:38:

Is America Just Behind?

Hey,

I live in New York and most people i know are into hip hop and have little or no idea of any kinds of electronic music, especially trance. I mean i can go to New York City and hear all the trance i want, but in general it seems pretty unknown.

Do you think electronic music is just taking longer to become popular in america? Do you think it will ever catch on as it does in Europe?

What do you guys think?

DJ Thanatos


Posted by tu_face on May-14-2003 15:44:

the americas are a little behind when it comes to trance.. the whole thing originated in europe so it is expected

its kind of like us being 2 series of simpsons behind the US hehehe


Posted by marcus82 on May-14-2003 15:57:

buwahahhahahhaha...

LOL...the last 2 seasons aren't that great IMO...

i think it also has to do alot with the dj's in your area, where do they get their vinyl, and where do they look for influence...lot's of factors. i know the TO dj's are pretty up to date


Posted by biznology on May-14-2003 16:04:

well i think it depends.

certain people in the US, like TAs are wayyy ahead of even most(non TA) europeans. go ask a dutch person your age that isnt a TA about Sander Kleinenberg- they wont have a clue most likely.

certain places in the US host many of the same DJs, Miami- hosts them all pretty much.

MOST people in the US dont know shit tho.

MOST places in the US dont host shit too.


its not that US is behind completely, but its pretty damn close. same goes for simpsons. im sure there are l33t simpsons fans outside the US that have all the new eps on the computer! hehe|


Posted by DJ Thanatos on May-14-2003 16:21:

I see, the main reason i ask is because im looking to get into DJ'in and the main music i will be spinning is trance, my problem lies in whether or not i can get people interested in trance. It would be awesome if in a few years im on top of it and it becomes big time in the US, but im curious as to the chances of that.


Posted by marcus82 on May-14-2003 16:25:

LOL...here's a good test

get a car and probably put a system...

cruise along to a high school or university (depending on your target age group)

pump up some current to semi current trance and see what their reaction is...

IF THEY GO...WHAT IS THAT TECHNO, OR GOOD TECHNO TRACK!

then you know it's not gonna take off.


Posted by Majglow on May-14-2003 17:09:

I do my part to get americans into trance.... are you doing yours?

Little things can go a long way.

Like, give a trance CD as a birthday present.
When you get tickets for events like PvD, Tiesto, etc... get your friends to come along, buy their ticket the first time if you have to. After the first time, they'll get hooked and buy their own tickets from then on.

Hell, one year ago, my friends called everything techno and didn't know there was anything besides corny cartoon music. Now, they're keeping me informed on the events going on around here

I like to think I had something to do with it


Posted by Majglow on May-14-2003 17:11:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Thanatos
I see, the main reason i ask is because im looking to get into DJ'in and the main music i will be spinning is trance, my problem lies in whether or not i can get people interested in trance. It would be awesome if in a few years im on top of it and it becomes big time in the US, but im curious as to the chances of that.


hey, everybody is gonna be calling it techno if they really are clueless... that doesn't mean they won't get into it and start learnign the differences...

Sorry to say it, but everybody has to start somewhere. I'm 100% sure there was a time when most of everybody here couldn't tell the difference between techno, trance, house, etc... and just called it all techno.

I know I did... (Ok, I was 14 lol) but still!


Posted by djtecktonik on May-14-2003 17:47:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Thanatos
I see, the main reason i ask is because im looking to get into DJ'in and the main music i will be spinning is trance, my problem lies in whether or not i can get people interested in trance. It would be awesome if in a few years im on top of it and it becomes big time in the US, but im curious as to the chances of that.



Im not trying to be an asshole but your never goimg to succeed in adj'ing if your just doing it to be famous. you have to really have love for the music your trying to bring across or you'll be like every other Dj just spinning the top 40 crap. If your music is good enough I wouldnt worry about getting people interested.


Posted by Majglow on May-14-2003 17:52:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Thanatos
I see, the main reason i ask is because im looking to get into DJ'in and the main music i will be spinning is trance, my problem lies in whether or not i can get people interested in trance. It would be awesome if in a few years im on top of it and it becomes big time in the US, but im curious as to the chances of that.


The odds aren't very likely... no matter where you spin. Maybe if you spin & produce... and are amazing at both... and can market yourself enough to get a label. Then you might have a chance.

There are already a lot of DJs who are really good yet aren't known all that much.

If you want to DJ for the $$... forget about it, it's almost impossible.


Posted by martianmystery on May-14-2003 18:45:

re: Is America Just Behind

I dont think america is behind... you just might not have a good scene... or knowledge of your local trance scene... cause as far as I know, the trance scene over here in SF has been one of the biggest of all genres for a while... so i guess it probably depends on either where you're at or who you know... i guess like someone said before, if you're track selection and mixing are good then you won't really have to worry about what if "America is behind" ...eventually "we" will catch up with you lol...(you must be spinning some really next level stuff!)

as far as other American DJs that have become big and started labels and opened record stores and whatnot, the ones that I know of that have been succesful, paid dues, being dedicated to the scene for many years before they truly became "Big" and had a following.... so be prepared for a lotta hard work.. oh yeah, one tip, dont spin cheeze lol ...l8ers


Posted by torontotrance on May-14-2003 18:56:

as pete tong said

the underground scene in the usa is the healthiest it's ever been and I don't think you could stop it if you wanted to.

I mean most records are released in Europe first then the United States and Canada because England is the biggest market for it. If you look at many A class deejays, they are playing far more North American dates than others and it's a trend. The scene will continue growing in North America and believe me, all the producers and deejays want to score big in America because you can make a lot of money very very quickly. Moby is from the states but look how he has done very very well in North America. It will keep growing then again as long as they have ppl to fill venues then promoters are going to keep booking deejays.


Posted by DJ Thanatos on May-14-2003 19:29:

Hey, Im not looking to make money or to be famous, im gonna spin cuz i love the music. I was just trying to figure out if i can get people into trance, thats all.


Posted by melly on May-14-2003 20:00:

quote:
Like, give a trance CD as a birthday present.
When you get tickets for events like PvD, Tiesto, etc... get your friends to come along, buy their ticket the first time if you have to. After the first time, they'll get hooked and buy their own tickets from then on.



So true.....PVD came to town not too long ago and i bought tix for a few friends' first times, and we had an incredible time. Now I cant stop hearing, 'so whats some good trance to download?' (meanwhile im rejoicing that theyre finally calling it trance and not techno). So yes, devirginize your friends and take them to see a good dj! not a rave...a real good trance dj!!!!!

(I live in columbus, ohio...so see if it can work here, it can work anywhere! )


Posted by Hondaswaper on May-14-2003 20:55:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Thanatos
Hey, Im not looking to make money or to be famous, im gonna spin cuz i love the music. I was just trying to figure out if i can get people into trance, thats all.


People are allready into trance , hell allmost 2000 people showed up to see PVD in seattle , and trance is not even that popular here (DnB House and breaks are way more popular) so Im sure there are lots of trance heads in NYC


Posted by djSlain on May-14-2003 21:02:

the scene in socal:
"i like dj mystik"


Posted by obs on May-15-2003 23:42:

sure, north america is behind (in general). just look on the boards here at how many people still think trance is something really underground and that says it all.

but for sure, there are also people in north america that is as "up to date" as the europeans. for example, a vancouver.ca fanzine back in 1991 (discotext) had an ad for mayday 1.


Posted by refuge on May-16-2003 01:51:

americans are mad behind on electronic music. they ones who aren't are the tRu electronic music headZ.
-reZ


Posted by refuge on May-16-2003 01:53:

quote:
Originally posted by djSlain
the scene in socal:
"i like dj mystik"


dj mystik is garbage!
-reZ


Posted by jdat on May-16-2003 02:18:

most countries that you consider to be upfront of the scene, you would have no knowledge of the music scene just by "living" ... what I mean to say, is you have this impression that it's all big and stuff in other countries when really it isn't as blown up as you think it is. You have to know what's going on to go there, you don't fall by accident, which confirms that the scene wherever you might be, isn't extremely big, well .... it's not that big of a deal anywhere ( even if it's true it's more out there then in the US yeah )

( hope you understand my reasoning )


Posted by cheesenip on May-16-2003 03:42:

hm saying that America is "behind" is making it sound like it's a fad or trend. America isn't "behind" at all. People just enjoy differnt types of music. There isn't going to be a single genre that is liked by everyone in the world.

Hmm. A lot of US TA's say they want to hear trance on radio and such, but wouldn't that just commercialize trance? Something that you really dont' want, isn't it? I think it's best that it stays this way in the States. That way, it won't be such a "too-commercial" issue. I dont' think that when PvD or AvB or some other big-name DJ comes to the US, the tickets don't sell out. There are going to be fans everywhere. If people like what they hear, they'll want more of it. If it just isn't for them, they won't listen to it. It has nothing to do with whether that person is "capable of understanding trance" or not. It's all musical preference.


Posted by DJDigDug on May-16-2003 03:44:

Gabriel and Dresden are from California so there for we are on the map! heha, america has a trance scene its just smaller than in europe.


Posted by LordTranceaLaut on May-16-2003 17:20:

isnt george acosta american too


Posted by Floorfiller on May-16-2003 17:43:

quote:
Originally posted by djSlain
the scene in socal:
"i like dj mystik"


chances are...if you ever met an asian kid in the US, that likes "trance", he likes DJ Mystik hehehehe


Posted by DaveSZ on May-16-2003 20:06:

quote:
Originally posted by DJDigDug
Gabriel and Dresden are from California so there for we are on the map! heha, america has a trance scene its just smaller than in europe.


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