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Posted by ASOT100 on May-27-2003 08:43:

Whats the dif between &, vs, and feat.?

What's the difference when the artist of a track is &, vs. or feat.? Like I understand & (e.g. Gabriel & Dresden) and feat. (e.g. Ghostland feat. Sinead O' Connor) but then what does vs. mean?


Posted by Psygnosis on May-27-2003 09:05:

VS could just mean a bootleg that when 2 songs where used to make it seem like one to have elements of both songs hearable. VS can sometimes in many cases just mean when 2 artist work together to make a song like Mat Silver VS Tony Burt.


Posted by GrimReaper on May-27-2003 09:28:

& and Versus (Vs./vs.) commonly have quite the same meaning that the artists have been working together with a tune as Psygnosis said, collaborating equally and giving their touch to the tune. But vs. might also mean that there's artists who maybe don't work together too often or have otherwise different views in music and now wanna try how their sounds fit together. This has maybe done with some compromises, other gives the bassline, other one gives some effects and synths or something like that (Tomcraft vs. Sunbeam - Versus >> uses Sunbeam's bassline and Tomcraft doing some other sound productions). Or then vs. might mean a bootleg mix of 2 tunes (Sasha vs. Garbage - When I Grow Up Over Xpander) as also said earlier.

Featuring (Feat./feat.) usually leads to the vocalist of the tune, or to an additional producer (System F feat. Armin van Buuren - Exhale) who has done some co-production on the tune but maybe not necessarily with the main parts.


Posted by Spad on May-27-2003 11:27:

I think feat. is used when somebody had nothing to do with writing/producing the tune, they just perform on it (ie. vocalist, sample)

vs. is usually used when they did (i.e. a bootleg or collaboration)


Posted by Fundamental on May-27-2003 11:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Spad
I think feat. is used when somebody had nothing to do with writing/producing the tune, they just perform on it (ie. vocalist, sample)

vs. is usually used when they did (i.e. a bootleg or collaboration)


Yes. And "&" is usually used when are in a lasting collaboration (Gabriel & Dresden, Blank & Jones etc).


Posted by DennisF on May-27-2003 12:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Fundamental
(Gabriel & Dresden, Blank & Jones etc).


plz dont name blank & jones and G&D in one sentence.. thx


Posted by djshy on May-27-2003 15:57:

quote:
Originally posted by GrimReaper
& and Versus (Vs./vs.) commonly have quite the same meaning that the artists have been working together with a tune as Psygnosis said, collaborating equally and giving their touch to the tune. But vs. might also mean that there's artists who maybe don't work together too often or have otherwise different views in music and now wanna try how their sounds fit together. This has maybe done with some compromises, other gives the bassline, other one gives some effects and synths or something like that (Tomcraft vs. Sunbeam - Versus >> uses Sunbeam's bassline and Tomcraft doing some other sound productions). Or then vs. might mean a bootleg mix of 2 tunes (Sasha vs. Garbage - When I Grow Up Over Xpander) as also said earlier.

Featuring (Feat./feat.) usually leads to the vocalist of the tune, or to an additional producer (System F feat. Armin van Buuren - Exhale) who has done some co-production on the tune but maybe not necessarily with the main parts.


i couldnt say it better...


Posted by Fundamental on May-27-2003 16:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Stiffmaster
plz dont name blank & jones and G&D in one sentence.. thx


Haha... Sorry about that. Dunno why G&D just popped into my head. I should have know better than to write THEM down...


Posted by DennisF on May-27-2003 17:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Fundamental
Haha... Sorry about that. Dunno why G&D just popped into my head. I should have know better than to write THEM down...

hehe


Posted by ASOT100 on May-28-2003 05:23:

I love Blank & Jones and G&D haha
What's bootleg mean in the sense of making music?


Posted by GrimReaper on May-28-2003 11:24:

quote:
Originally posted by ASOT100
What's bootleg mean in the sense of making music?

Bootleg usually means a mix/synergy of 2 or more tracks simply combined together. Bootleg becomes illegal if it gets released without the permission from the artist(s) and/or label, that's why many bootlegs have been released only on white label because the labels have refused to release them or haven't liked them.

Bootlegs hardly ever get official releases but there are always exceptions.. One good example of these is
Chicane - Offshore (Disco Citizens Remix) vs. Power Circle - A Little Love, A Little Life bootleg mixed by Anthony Pappa.
It got released in '97 on Alex Gold's label Xtravaganza Recordings as Chicane feat. Power Circle - Offshore '97 (Anthony Pappa Bootleg Mix) and was featured also on Chicane's 1st album Far From The Maddening Crowds just labeled as Offshore '97.


Posted by Arty on May-28-2003 15:41:

quote:
Originally posted by GrimReaper
Bootleg usually means a mix/synergy of 2 or more tracks simply combined together. Bootleg becomes illegal if it gets released without the permission from the artist(s) and/or label, that's why many bootlegs have been released only on white label because the labels have refused to release them or haven't liked them.


Technically a bootleg is anything that involves nicking someone else's tune, or part of it, and putting it out. Usually it's two tracks together, but you sometimes see illegal pressings of otherwise rare tracks, which are also bootlegs. And if you put two tracks together with consent, then technically it's not a bootleg. Bootleg = illegal, more or less.



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