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Post quotes you've heard, any political themed ones anyway. I'll start:
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| "Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience- soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception." -- Mark Twain (1916) |
oh eye see 
btw anyone know if the so called US inspectors sent to Iraq after the war have come back home empty handed? I heard it on a talk radio show the other night, but havnt looked up on it to see if its true or not.
^^^its true, even Bush himself said it.
anyways here's my quote of the day: I just read in adbusters.
"We're not in the buisness of providing news and information"
"We're not in the buisness of providing well-researched music. We're simply in the buisness of selling our customers products"
-Lowry Mays CEO Clear Channel (owns 1200 radio stations in the US)
Clear channel got big because, with the Telecommunications Act of 1996, the US congress reworte the rules governing who could own what in the media market.
The rewrite eliminated limits on the number of radio stations that could be owned by one corporation, Clear Channels portfolio passed from 40 stations in 1995 to more than 1200 today.
"It's easy to be anti-American. But for all its problems, America still stands for a lot of good in this world."
- Tony Blair
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| "It's amazing I won. I was running against peace, prosperity, and incumbency." -George W. Bush on June 14, 2001 (speaking to Swedish Prime Minister Goran Perrson, unaware that a live television camera was still rolling) |
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| In reply to the question of What's your favorite childhood book?, George replied: "The Very Hungry Caterpillar." However, this book wasn't even published until George was one year out of college. -10.17.99 in The Arizona Republic |
This isn't really a political quote, but still a good one by George W. See if you can figure out what it means...
"I haven't had a chance to talk, but I'm confident we'll get a bill that I can live with if we don't."
President George W. Bush, on the McCain-Kennedy patients' bill of rights
And no, there were no transscription errors, that quote is real....
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| Originally posted by PeacefulWarrior "It's amazing I won. I was running against peace, prosperity, and incumbency." -George W. Bush on June 14, 2001 (speaking to Swedish Prime Minister Goran Perrson, unaware that a live television camera was still rolling) |
^Yeah, or at least a tape recording.
Richie Hawtin on DJ Mix Albums
It's like a business card, you know like "Here I am, book me for a gig, can I get some more money please!" That's kind of disappointing to me.
"They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin, 1755
applies at so many levels to all these bills the goverment is passing to keep us "safe" from those bad terrorist
Straight out of Bookshelf 94 
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"In our time, political speech and writing are largely the defence of the indefensible."
- George Orwell (1903-1950)
"I adore political parties. They are the only place left to us where people don�t talk politics."
- Oscar Wilde (1854�1900)
"Politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."
- Mao Zedong (1893�1976)
"Politics is not the art of the possible. It consists in choosing between the disastrous and the unpalatable."
- John Kenneth Galbraith (b. 1908), U.S. economist
Some none Bookshelf ones:
"The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first."
- Thomas Jefferson
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?"
- Thomas Jefferson
"Fiftyone percent of a nation can establish a totalitarian regime, suppress minorities and still remain democratic."
- Erik von Kuehnelt Leddihn
"A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves."
- Bertrand de Jouvenal
"People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use."
- Soren Kierkegaard
"Predominant opinions are generally the opinions of the generation that is vanishing."
- Benjamin Disraeli
"Establishing lasting peace is the work of education; all politics can do is keep us out of war."
- Maria Montessori
"Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first."
- Charles de Gaulle
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts."
- Bertrand Russell
And while we're on the topic of the US and WMDs :
"Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction."
- Dick Cheney (26/08/02)
"Well, there is no question that we have evidence and information that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical particularly . . . all this will be made clear in the course of the operation, for whatever duration it takes."
- Ari Fleisher (21/03/03)
"We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."
- Donald Rumsfeld (30/03/03)
"We never believed that we'd just tumble over weapons of mass destruction in that country."
- Donald Rumsfeld (04/05/03)
"It was a surprise to me then � it remains a surprise to me now � that we have not uncovered weapons, as you say, in some of the forward dispersal sites. Believe me, it's not for lack of trying. We've been to virtually every ammunition supply point between the Kuwaiti border and Baghdad, but they're simply not there."
- Lt. Gen. James Conway, 1st Marine Expeditionary Force (30/05/03)
(WMD Timeline Quote -here-)
�Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar.� -- Julius Caesar is attributed with offering this.
Perhaps a bit of an extreme comparison but still somewhat enlightening. (source: Adbusters May/June 2003)
I don't believe there's many shades of gray in this war. You're either with us or against us; you're either evil or you're good.
-Goerge W. Bush
Today the Swastika forces the world to take a position for or against us. The world must decide; it has no choice.
-Robert Ley
The United States and other nations did nothing to deserve or invite this threat, but we will do everything to defeat it.
-Goerge W. Bush
This war is a defensive war. It was forced upon us by our enemies, who wish to destroy the possibility of life and growth for our nation.
-Joseph Goebbels
This nation and our friends are all that stand between a world at peace and a world of chaos.
-Goerge W. Bush
We are the ones fighting for order, for a soultion to the crisis and the avoidance of anarch.
-Adolf Hitler
There's still an enemy lurking around which hates America. And they hate us for what we love.
-Goerge W. Bush
They hate our people because it is decent, brave, industrious, hardworking and intelligent. They hate us as a REich and as a community.
-Joesph Goebbels
Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. all you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.
-Hermann Goering
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| "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." -- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials |
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| �Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar.� -- Julius Caesar is attributed with offering this. |
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| We've been seeing this "quote" on the Internet since December 2001, sometimes attributed to Julius Caesar, sometimes to William Shakespeare (presumably lifted from his play, Julius Caesar). Throughout the summer of 2002 it gained popularity, appearing in countless posts to newsgroups and even surfacing in various letters to editors in a handful of newspapers. Its popularity is not hard to understand: The USA has been embroiled in a war against terrorism far across the world and is contemplating war with Iraq, and the latter action, especially, has been the subject of much debate and dissension within America. This telling observation from Caesar appears to offer yet another valid reason for not yelling "Our leader; right or wrong!" and blindly following the President into war. It is therefore a favorite of those who'd rather sit this dance out, thankyouverymuch. Yet as popular as the quote is, it's not real. These words are not anything Julius Caesar ever wrote or said. No biographies of Caesar or histories of Rome contain these lines, and scholars who have made it their business to know everything about the man draw a blank on this quote. Likewise, Shakespeare did not stuff this soliloquy into the mouth of the title character in his play Julius Caesar, nor did any of the Bard's other characters utter it. No record of this quote has been found prior to its appearance on the Internet in late 2001. So what's going on here, then? As Ralph Keyes explains in Nice Guys Finish Seventh, his compendium of misattributed and false quotes, "Famous dead people make excellent commentators on current events." The dead do not reappear to challenge words assigned to them, an attribute much prized by those looking for convenient spokesmen to lend authority to their convictions. This "quote" called for a strong and respected military leader and statesman, hence Caesar was resurrected to give it voice. Barbara "great Caesar's ghost!" Mikkelson Sightings: On 29 September 2002, Barbra Streisand used the spurious quote during a speech she gave at a Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Gala given in Hollywood. Political cartoonist Paul Conrad also used it as the basis for his cartoon of 29 September 2002. |
"how fortunate for our government that the people we administer do not think"
- adolf hitler
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"...the essence of the evil government is that it anticipates bad conduct on the part of its citizens. Any government which assumes that the population is going to do something evil has already lost its franchise to govern. The tacit contract between a government and the people governed is that the government will trust the people and the people will trust the government. But once the government begins to mistrust the people it is governing, it loses its mandate to rule because it is no longer acting as a spokesman for the people, but is acting as an agent of persecution." -Philip K. Dick |
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"The best thing about being the President is that I have to answer to no one. I can do whatever I want." -George W. Bush |
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| Originally posted by Alccode That is actually a paraphrase, but 90% accurate in wording. When I first read it, after I got over the shock and anger, I thought, "No, you very much have someone to answer to!! You must answer to the Sovereign, the People!" Especially when the most powerful country in the world is concerned. You can't just do whatever you want!! |
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| Originally posted by Alccode That is actually a paraphrase, but 90% accurate in wording. When I first read it, after I got over the shock and anger, I thought, "No, you very much have someone to answer to!! You must answer to the Sovereign, the People!" Especially when the most powerful country in the world is concerned. You can't just do whatever you want!! |
The sign of an intelligent man is the ability to entertain an idea without accepting it.
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| Originally posted by occrider I'm pretty sure you're taking the quote out of context. I read this somewhere as well and I think the reporter's question was something offbeat. |
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