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What "trance nation" ???!!

I just got back from Holland and I can tell you Trance is not really popular there! I was very surprised. In every single music store you could at most find a dozen Trance CDs, maybe Tiesto's ISOS and Nyana, maybe one AvB album, that's it. Forget about anything more, let alone imports. Tiesto, for instance, is not really popular there. When I asked every shop owner if they had any Trance they'd shake their head and say, "Nope - not my style." I went to a record store called "Strictly Dance Records", thinking I could get some Trance there, but the owner was enfuriated when I mentioned Tiesto, AvB, and Ferry to him: "They're awful! Trance is terrible. Why does everyone think Holland = Trance?" So I asked him, "This is called 'Dance Records'... what kind of music do you sell here, and listen to?" He said, "Soul. You should too."

Hell, even here in the States I can find a MUCH better selection of Trance, all styles. DAMN! Big surprise, and disappointment.

the UK is the real trance nation of europe in terms of popularity.



and it ain't THAT popular here.

Very surprising.

As somebody from outside Holland (canada) i got the impression that they were big into trance. Any chance it was just that area?

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Originally posted by Dom the UK is the real trance nation of europe in terms of popularity. and it ain't THAT popular here.

well yes because the popular thing ATM is of course pop trance (ugh)

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Originally posted by Dom the UK is the real trance nation of europe in terms of popularity. and it ain't THAT popular here.

it seems as if Trance gets ridiculed by other genres of music

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Originally posted by Hequn well yes because the popular thing ATM is of course pop trance (ugh)

no the popular thing just now is 'urban' LOL music.

which is so much commercial shit.

and yeh, like u said, all the little kids love what they think is trance cos they don't know better.

In germany i think they prefer techno. In holland they prefer hardstyle, which is terrible.

But it doesn't matter as long as there are enough people who still love trance, which there are.

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Originally posted by Orko Very surprising. As somebody from outside Holland (canada) i got the impression that they were big into trance. Any chance it was just that area?

I was in Amsterdam, and visited maybe 8 music stores in the center of the city (including a 'mega-store' called "Fame"), including a couple of smaller vinyl stores.

It wasn't any better in Schiphol-Rijk, where there is a mall inside the airport and a music store there.

Very surprising!

Get this people, -- I didn't even see a single Ferry Corsten CD! Serious!

Oh those Dutchees....

they probably knew you were a tourist and wanted to mess around with you!

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Originally posted by Orko it seems as if Trance gets ridiculed by other genres of music

but we know better right

in the uk we have many stores which have the genres house/prog/trance/hardhouse. then usually other genres like techno or garage depending on the tastes of the stores owners.

but you are almost garauntee dto find trance in any "dance" record store

altho you may find you have to look in the smallee sotres to find the decent tunes, most places like hmv have shitty commercilised tunes.

Re: Oh those Dutchees....

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Originally posted by caroline they probably knew you were a tourist and wanted to mess around with you!

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Originally posted by Dumonde Trancer hmv have shitty commercilised tunes.

hey you've never been to the two near me then, one in manchester where you can pick up old gems like Lange - Follow Me and Veracocha - Carte Blanche and one in oldham that has the odd gem also

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Originally posted by Eugene I just got back from Holland and I can tell you Trance is not really popular there!"

yea ok, were u all fucked up or what???

just because a couple stores dont have it and the owner doesnt it like it doesnt mean shiat

Hehe nah we hardly have any parties/producers/DJ's over here!
Trance is so overrrr


40.000+ events...
Innercity
Sensation (2x)
Mysteryland
Tiesto In Concert
Dance Valley
Trance Energy (2x)

some producers/DJ's...
Gielen&Svenson
Verkuylen
Kleinenberg
Bervoets&de Goeij
Fijneman
Verwest
Corsten
Van Buuren


Not bad for such a small country I think.
And yeah the music/record stores in Amsterdam suck!
They see trance as some cheap form of EM.
But that's just Amsterdam, they always think they are above everything.
Guess you can buy way more trance and imports in the UK.
More people live in England though and they only have like GSSS,Gatecrasher@NEC,Homelands and Godskitchen GG.
It's hard to say who's "Trance Nation", the UK,Germany or the Netherlands!?
But the "Trance Continent Contest" is easily won!

heh atleast its not like here in california..its all rap and hip-hop and mainstream stuff..and if anyone likes electronica they usually just call it techno when they really mean trance (its quit disturbing) and no one here has even heard of hardstyle wich i think is very kick ass for the most part trance is still alive..atleast in america

btw just the other day i was in best buy and they had a section for electronic music...had the ferry costa cd and some essential mixes as well! and much more wich is very nice..atleast for me since i saw no one else in the section buyin stuff! bwahhaha..all mine!!

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Originally posted by Kamui heh atleast its not like here in california..its all rap and hip-hop and mainstream stuff..and if anyone likes electronica they usually just call it techno when they really mean trance (its quit disturbing) and no one here has even heard of hardstyle wich i think is very kick ass for the most part trance is still alive..atleast in america btw just the other day i was in best buy and they had a section for electronic music...had the ferry costa cd and some essential mixes as well! and much more wich is very nice..atleast for me since i saw no one else in the section buyin stuff! bwahhaha..all mine!!

The electronic music section of a typical US music store sort of reminds me of a porn shop. There's a large selection, but not advertised at all, and you almost never see anyone there, but there clearly must be a market for it.

Okay, maybe not the best analogy.

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Trance is so overrrr

Don't say that! That's not even funny as a joke, man. I seriously got shivers down my spine when i read that.

Yeah i remember going into the tower records on the pike near me a few months ago for the first time in a couple years, and i was amazed at the change in the electronic music section. When i went in there a few years ago, it was quite a small section, and not marked at all. Now, the section is almost as big as other music sections, and it is quite clearly marked. Tres hip!

You guys shouldnt come to holland, the scene stinks here.The Trance scenehas been destroyed by hardstyle. Soon gabber is gna take over again and trance will go back to the underground. Our Djs like ferry, tiesto and armin will go abroad and we will never hearvthme anymoire

I've been warned the Uk people for the same thing, they wont listen. You will see when you scene gets flooded with tons of useless hardstylke albums and parties. Its fun for about a year, but it tired really quickly

yes please, armin, tiesto, ferry, come over to the US!!! pleeeeeease lol

nope trance isnt as popular in Holland as Holland TAs would make you think. NL has all the big parties, but that just equates the style more with pop music there than anything else. I used to be surprised when Dutch people didnt know who Ferry, or Tiesto were. Now i feel good to know they have no idea who Sander K is - cause i know hes not pop over there|

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Originally posted by Eugene "This is called 'Dance Records'... what kind of music do you sell here, and listen to?" He said, "Soul. You should too."

We only are a 'trancenation' because of our parties and big dj's.. and only because foreigners think and say so..

but 80% of dutchmen don� even know what 'Sensation' or 'Innercity' is..

There is always a lot of discussion around here.. Noobs think Houseparty's are only about drugs and that everyone does it..
Every little thing which happens on a party goes HUGE in the papers..

Also a lot of people say Trance is commercial and crap, but they only hear the crap in the pop-charts..
and when i went to Tiesto in Concert, friends asked me the next day if he spinned lethal industry and 643.. (the only music they know of him..) and if i heart the 'magnificent' song Weekend by Scooter..

I don't even try to explain anymore, I don't care!

honestly I must say I'm really surprised after reading this.
always saw on Holland as the true trance nation. not only cuz they have lots of known dj's and big trance events..
but also cuz almost all the peeps down there love electronical music.
but i guess that was a pic I've made me in my head.

so after reading about your search after trance records in the shops down there, I have to admin that I'm a bit disappointed..

possible that it's easier finding such shops outside of the capital, but anyway.

even though , no one can beat them on the Big Events!, cuz they just keeps coming and I guess that�s a sign which sows how popular trance is down there..

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Originally posted by PCP2017 Hehe nah we hardly have any parties/producers/DJ's over here! Trance is so overrrr 40.000+ events... Innercity Sensation (2x) Mysteryland Tiesto In Concert Dance Valley Trance Energy (2x) some producers/DJ's... Gielen&Svenson Verkuylen Kleinenberg Bervoets&de Goeij Fijneman Verwest Corsten Van Buuren Not bad for such a small country I think. And yeah the music/record stores in Amsterdam suck! They see trance as some cheap form of EM. But that's just Amsterdam, they always think they are above everything. Guess you can buy way more trance and imports in the UK. More people live in England though and they only have like GSSS,Gatecrasher@NEC,Homelands and Godskitchen GG. It's hard to say who's "Trance Nation", the UK,Germany or the Netherlands!? But the "Trance Continent Contest" is easily won!

I have to agree with PCP2017 that is not bad for a country twice the size of new jersey! and I've never heard of a trance event of 40,000 pleople in the US, but I could be wrong.

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you must have gone to the wrong record store, tiesto is HUGE.
i mean, tiesto in concert... that that guy in the store doesnt like trance and therefor says armin, ferry and tiesto are crap.. fuck him.
you should have gone to black hole records in breda or something

i think lots of foreigners have a wrong vision on holland. not every single dutch likes trance.. a lot do, but most of them listen to everything that is in the charts and they also like r&b or rock.
if everybody in holland listened to trance, we wouldnt have justin timberlake and eminem in our top 40. but just trance tunes.

the reason why we are considered a trance nation must be because of the parties! we just love to party overhere
although events like innercity and mystery land arent just trance events.. i mean, there is also techno, harstyle, etc.. its just where you draw the line on whats trance and whats not.

and biohazard, dont be that pessimistic..tiesto is more popular then ever, although i'm not happy with too much hardstyle either and personally i wouldnt mind if trance was a bit more underground. makes the ticket prices for parties go down i reckon

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