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Posted by George Kendall on May-31-2003 11:55:

Kuffdam vs DJ Money ???

Ok, theres been alot of talk about this (especially in #UKTA) and basically 99% of people are apposed to the idea of having 1 person who rarely posts at all on TA or visits chat playing back to back with an unregistered person at the UKTA night.

We decided we'd make a poll to let people decide.


Kuffdam vs DJ Money (who??) should they play at the UKTA night??


Posted by Ian on May-31-2003 11:58:

with all due respect to the guys, this is a ukta night, and I thought apart from o'bir as was, or whoever we get in, it should be the guys playing, and that's what I'd rather see


Posted by gibbo on May-31-2003 12:01:

Yeh i agree that it should be ukta's and i'd rather see more but i think the main problem for everyone is actually looking at the lineup and going money who?????


Posted by goldenarmZ on May-31-2003 12:24:

DJ "who the fuck am i" Money

vs

Kuff "i'm a big wank scotch cockstain" dam

yeh.. sounds mint


Posted by Martin McG on May-31-2003 12:28:

i thought the point in the UKTA night was to get everyone together and have a great laugh and enjoy the night whilst UKTAs showcased their talents by spinning! kuff is a UKTA but hes hardly ever in chat etc.

i dont think its fair that people who are on all the time dont get to spin! i reckon that gibbo and george should spin back to back as they are always on the site or in chat, yet they havent got a slot!


Posted by Kuffdam on May-31-2003 12:29:

Man I can't believe you had to start a thread over this...
Its simple... its no problem not to play....

Neo offered so the people planning this can sort out with who you want to play at your event. If you have the cash to book someone the just go for it, its no skin off my nose.

I simply offered to play since Mr Obir decided that unless there was cash involved he would no longet be willing to do it for you....

Feel free as of this moment to sort out your new lineup...

Oh yeah and cheers for the wank PM I was sent...

Kuff


Posted by goldenarmZ on May-31-2003 12:32:

Thumbs up

quote:
Originally posted by Kuffdam
Oh yeah and cheers for the wank PM I was sent...

Kuff


no probs mate, you're welcome to a few lines of abuse whenever you want them.


Posted by flystyler on May-31-2003 13:24:

Obviously i have missed all the fun and games in the #ukta channel, wot a shame. Anyway from an outsiders point of view this looks like a total mess.

It seems that as soon as money and a chance to showcase yr talents is involved everyone starts arguying, Its a shame that when we all should be puling together to organise things suddenly we all start arguing between each other.

Firstly it is a massive shame that o'bir cant do it. However u would have had no problems with him doing a set, even though he rarely posts here anymore. Nothing against u jon, your obviously very busy now, and u dont have the time to post.

Anyway there was also talk about goldenscan being part of the line up, not sure if he is. But i cant remember ever seeing him post on here.

Kuffy has been part of this forum for a lot longer than a few people who have stated their view on the matter. As i say, its a shame that people feel they need to pull rank.

This night has to be good and then we have a chance at future nights, and then money being involved. We need top DJ's and as most of you know, kuffy is developing into a top DJ.

So i think we need semi pro DJ's in the line up. And not more bedroom DJs.

I have heard a lot of you spin, and most are very tallented, but it is not easy to go from yr bedroom to a big club. And i think we need that expereince in the line up.

God only knows wot will happen if this idea is a success and we go forward to make money out of it. I just hope all money is reinvested.

I very much doubt we could all agree and eventually start a company running club nights. Which could be a potential outcome if we do arrange a few succesful nights.

Most people seem to be loosing sight of the whole point, make this one night a success, and then future nights will be made for more ukta's to spin.

I hope this gets sorted out. Coz the arguing amongst us is getting stupid.

"United we stand, Devided we fall" and all that bollocks. Well can we stop the deviding please

That is all


Posted by goldenarmZ on May-31-2003 14:46:

quote:
Originally posted by flystyler
Obviously i have missed all the fun and games in the #ukta channel, wot a shame. Anyway from an outsiders point of view this looks like a total mess.

It seems that as soon as money and a chance to showcase yr talents is involved everyone starts arguying, Its a shame that when we all should be puling together to organise things suddenly we all start arguing between each other.

Firstly it is a massive shame that o'bir cant do it. However u would have had no problems with him doing a set, even though he rarely posts here anymore. Nothing against u jon, your obviously very busy now, and u dont have the time to post.

Anyway there was also talk about goldenscan being part of the line up, not sure if he is. But i cant remember ever seeing him post on here.

Kuffy has been part of this forum for a lot longer than a few people who have stated their view on the matter. As i say, its a shame that people feel they need to pull rank.

This night has to be good and then we have a chance at future nights, and then money being involved. We need top DJ's and as most of you know, kuffy is developing into a top DJ.

So i think we need semi pro DJ's in the line up. And not more bedroom DJs.

I have heard a lot of you spin, and most are very tallented, but it is not easy to go from yr bedroom to a big club. And i think we need that expereince in the line up.

God only knows wot will happen if this idea is a success and we go forward to make money out of it. I just hope all money is reinvested.

I very much doubt we could all agree and eventually start a company running club nights. Which could be a potential outcome if we do arrange a few succesful nights.

Most people seem to be loosing sight of the whole point, make this one night a success, and then future nights will be made for more ukta's to spin.

I hope this gets sorted out. Coz the arguing amongst us is getting stupid.

"United we stand, Devided we fall" and all that bollocks. Well can we stop the deviding please

That is all


right.. the point we've all made is that we wouldn't mind a non-ukta (or elusive ukta) playing if they were a big name and could pull us some crowds in.. eg: obir, goldenscan

guffdam and dj scummy are not big names, nor would i classify them as ukta's. thus they have no claim to a dj slot. especially when there are ukta regs who every1 wants to play who don't get a set. and even more especially when most of us agree we don't like kuff's sets on taw.

plus theres the fact it wasn't even mentioned to anyone.. the names just appeared on the lineup 'on the sly'


Posted by flystyler on May-31-2003 14:53:

quote:
Originally posted by goldenarmZ
guffdam and dj scummy are not big names, nor would i classify them as ukta's. thus they have no claim to a dj slot.


This doesnt sound very much like u fray mate. Kuffy has been on the line up since day 1, and as i say has expereince with what works in a club.

Well i think there are ways with dealing with things, and that is not be offending as many people as possible. You didnt need to deal with it in the way you did!


Posted by Ian on May-31-2003 14:58:

quote:
Originally posted by flystyler

Anyway there was also talk about goldenscan being part of the line up, not sure if he is. But i cant remember ever seeing him post on here.



http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...fo&userid=15714

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=105786


Posted by goldenarmZ on May-31-2003 15:09:

quote:
Originally posted by flystyler
This doesnt sound very much like u fray mate. Kuffy has been on the line up since day 1, and as i say has expereince with what works in a club.

Well i think there are ways with dealing with things, and that is not be offending as many people as possible. You didnt need to deal with it in the way you did!


lol.. this sounds exactly like me fly.. i always wade in and offend people first.

and whether he has club experience is not an issue.. have you actually seen him play? if he played like he does an taw he would empty the place. i know i'm insulting the guy yet again there, but i figure i've already made a mortal enemy.. why stop now?

basically, the idea behind this was to create a night organised and dj'd by ukta's.. not to secure the future of a long running ukta franchise. if we have this one night and it does crash and burn.. what have we lost?

P.S. you'll generally find that i deal with things in the way which amuses me most.. regardless of whether it's the best way or not


Posted by Technaut on May-31-2003 15:32:

id rather see people spin that i talk to on here the most or in the chat room

kuff is alright and that, but he doesnt really post in here or go in chat so i was a bit baffled as to why you guys wanted to use him?

same with O Bir - he aint really a UKTA is he, fair doos hes a resi for a mint club but still didnt make much sense to me?

anyways i aint really invloved with all the organising and that so i may as well shut up


Posted by *HaRRy* on May-31-2003 15:44:

what we need is another awe inspiring harry and ste 3 hours back 2 back after the raging sucess of tobys kitchen social gathering


Posted by George Kendall on May-31-2003 15:59:

quote:
Originally posted by *HaRRy*
what we need is another awe inspiring harry and ste 3 hours back 2 back after the raging sucess of tobys kitchen social gathering


I'd sooner see that


Its not meant to be a personal dig.....just seems a bit dodgy is all.


Posted by flystyler on May-31-2003 16:07:

quote:
Originally posted by goldenarmZ


basically, the idea behind this was to create a night organised and dj'd by ukta's.. not to secure the future of a long running ukta franchise. if we have this one night and it does crash and burn.. what have we lost?



No i think u will find that we were aiming to do more than one night so even more ukta's could spin in a club. So i hope it is a success.


Posted by George Kendall on May-31-2003 16:09:

whatever..........thats not what this poll is about.


Posted by Kuffdam on May-31-2003 16:19:

You have made your feelings clear....

Fact... I never asked to headline this...
I simply submitted my name like all the other UKTA people at the start with an offer to play.... Since then people have dropped out left right and centre.... The date has been put back and back and back.....

Now suddenly I am supposed to be playing last and you decide to rip into me.... What the fuck is that all about?

And as for me being on here often? I am here as and when I can be..
Simple as that...

Oh yeah and last thing on this

I certainly wouldnt expect this nor would I ever consider sending this kind of thing to any of you UKTA asiring DJ's out there....
the ukta night..



Right.. somehow you and DJ Money (who?) have appeared on the lineup for our night... and playing the last set of all things.

I'd just like to point out to you that this is not going to happen under any circumstances, despite what neo may think

We haven't had chance to talk to neo about this yet, so i dunno what he's told you, but basically.. all the ukta's have unanamously decided that you are utter wank, and we've never even heard of your mate with the gay dj name.

Please do not attempt to mix at our night, you will be restrained and led away from the booth.

btw: i have also copied this pm to neo, to fully illustrate our disgust at his decision to include you. so theres no need for you to bother

if you would like to discuss this matter in more detail, please join #ukta on irc.webchat.org

thank you for your time.

-love fray


Posted by goldenarmZ on May-31-2003 16:26:

u read ur new pm?



do so


i enjoyed writing that pm, it made me laugh.. but there was no malice intended.. unfortunately, the way i read it when i sent it, it was funny.. the way i read it now, it's just plain bastard like

sorry about that

anyways.. we've talked about it now any hopefully we understand each other.. ie: we both understand that i'm a twat.


Posted by freesoupDJ on May-31-2003 16:36:


Posted by flystyler on May-31-2003 16:49:

Well this poll is a joke anyway.

Come on, its like all other polls on this forum. A popularity contest and also non uktas can vote, as well as ukta's who are not fuly aware about any of the goings on of the night.

At the end of the day peoples votes will be from miss informed sources or just plain biased ones.

There is no point making a vote. It would be better if we could have setup a ukta night forum for people organising it, and then only people who are properly informed can ovte.

However this was attempted by dave a while ago, and didnt get anywhere. It was actually a pretty good idea. But anyway it seems the larger the ukta group gets the more we disagree and argue amongst ourselves.

Now neo has no bias, he has seen kuffy mix, and im pretty sure if kuffy was wank neo would not have him in the line up.

You forget Neo has put a lot of work into this, and this silly, lets face it, immature arguing, if it was me would piss me off.

So you say this vote is unanamous, well i think its far from it. People agree with others who are in their group, and support them.

And please download a set from kuffy's site. I have downloaded a few from over the last year. And i assure u he spins decent sets.

But any non uk tranceaddict lookin at this post will just think we cant agree on anything, and are approaching this like amateurs.


Posted by CyberTeraz on May-31-2003 16:53:

Ok...this will sort it out for everyone! I suggest you listen to me as I am talking sence!


CyberTeraz 6 hrs spectacular!


Posted by goldenarmZ on May-31-2003 16:54:

quote:
Originally posted by flystyler
But any non uk tranceaddict lookin at this post will just think we cant agree on anything, and are approaching this like amateurs.


and they'd be right


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on May-31-2003 17:01:

quote:
Originally posted by CyberTeraz
Ok...this will sort it out for everyone! I suggest you listen to me as I am talking sence!


CyberTeraz 6 hrs spectacular!



yes but what would be even better would be:

Mike! 6 hours solo!



Posted by CyberTeraz on May-31-2003 17:39:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
yes but what would be even better would be:

Mike! 6 hours solo!




We could always go b2b! I could carry the crowd through the shit parts of the set that you induce!


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