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Posted by chesco on Jun-03-2003 16:03:

drugs and dj'ing

i was recently listening to a mini disc i made about a year ago and i was more than impressed with it.

however recently i couldn't mix cement. i find it hard to concentrate past 15 minutes on the decks and my changeovers are flat and basically all the same. i put this fact solely down to the fact that every weekend for the past half a year i've been hammering it, taking copius amounts of ecstacy which i am now begining to sort out.

this is a warning to all you wannabe dj's, drug abuse fucks with your level of concentration and this for me is proof enuff to stop taking pills (so much) .


Posted by jp on Jun-03-2003 16:18:

Just ask Sven V�th for some advise


Posted by Dublin Guy on Jun-03-2003 16:35:

quote:
Just ask Sven V�th for some advise


went to see sven @ the wkend and he was pish poor


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Jun-03-2003 16:36:

whatever Many of the big DJ's do them whilst they are DJing in clubs.


Posted by tu_face on Jun-03-2003 16:38:

Re: drugs and dj'ing

quote:
Originally posted by chesco
i was recently listening to a mini disc i made about a year ago and i was more than impressed with it.

however recently i couldn't mix cement. i find it hard to concentrate past 15 minutes on the decks and my changeovers are flat and basically all the same. i put this fact solely down to the fact that every weekend for the past half a year i've been hammering it, taking copius amounts of ecstacy which i am now begining to sort out.

this is a warning to all you wannabe dj's, drug abuse fucks with your level of concentration and this for me is proof enuff to stop taking pills (so much) .


i find that not to be true.. ive caned pills for ages (since before i started djing) and its never affected my mixing, unless of course you are on them at the time, then it can go either way lol (usually better unless ive done more than 2 or 3)

cannabis however leaves u unable to mix for shit


Posted by QuickStep on Jun-03-2003 18:32:

Yeah, I gotta agree with tu about this.

I've done pills for almost 7 years now. And it all comes down to moderation. You can't go out every weekend and get completely mashed, you WILL burn out.

You take a few for parties occansioanlly. I'm doing tech and integration, so it must not of wasted that many brain cells.

As for concentration, I've always had a limited concentration. But doesn't everybody?

PAyce


Posted by hangover on Jun-03-2003 19:07:

Re: Re: drugs and dj'ing

quote:
Originally posted by tu_face
i find that not to be true.. ive caned pills for ages (since before i started djing) and its never affected my mixing, unless of course you are on them at the time, then it can go either way lol (usually better unless ive done more than 2 or 3)

cannabis however leaves u unable to mix for shit


well duh..., if you started taking em before you started djing f'course you couldn't notice a difference. But maybe if you hadn't taken them at all, YOU would be the #1 DJ in the world, rather than one of those fairy f0ks


Posted by mr_sick on Jun-03-2003 21:30:

I don't take drugs anymore since about 4 months, but before that I found it easier to mix while I was on E, music feeling is so great when you popped just before mixing!

But now I stopped all those nasty things Just mixing, sometimes a little bit drunk


Posted by Frost_Melt on Jun-04-2003 05:30:

well once my friend from new zealand went to see paul oakenfold live (never again) he was so drug fcuked on tha night that he passed out behind tha decks while mixin , it farked up everyones night ... lousy a-hole


Posted by magnasoma on Jun-04-2003 09:24:

everything in moderation. i wonder how much producers listen to their work under the influence to bring out the kinda frequencies u instantly pick up on when ur feeli' it.

i remember that prodigy's second album - a lot of the tracks were made under different drugs like pills n amphetamines n coke to bring out the lil' enhancements the chemicals make to the brain.

kinda interesting, spinning tho, i'd think if dj's are taking anything at the time it'd be coke. shaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarp.


Posted by chesco on Jun-04-2003 10:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Frost_Melt
well once my friend from new zealand went to see paul oakenfold live (never again) he was so drug fcuked on tha night that he passed out behind tha decks while mixin , it farked up everyones night ... lousy a-hole


listen i never put this thread up so people could start naming and shaming dj's so don't do it.

it's just my opinion that my levels of concentration have been severly affected by pills. it may not be the case for everybody but hey, i've got to blame this terrible dj'ing streak on something.


Posted by hangover on Jun-04-2003 20:20:

blame it on the weatherman


Posted by SpykeChyld on Jun-04-2003 21:04:

I am fully able to mix while stoned. Breakbeats kill me but Mellow shit is fun when your smoking. I've never spun on any other drugs. I'd think they'd affect me somewhat though.


Posted by UglyDave on Jun-05-2003 02:19:

Yep, pills fuck u up - my opinion anyways.. Well, they fuck u up to an extent. I dont think i've suffered any long term damage from pills but, the depression just is not worth it. However, before saturday past i hadn't taken a thing in 6-7 weeks, sat nite i took 2, then off to a party + took another, then on sunday nite i took another 2. felf a bit twisted on mon but that can be expected.

I dunno, if i've ever felt i couldn't concentrate, but if i have i've probably been too depressed to noice.. But, i'm still feeling ok with myself! Could it be that over the past 7 weeks i've built up enough seratonin to give me 2 nites out on the pills + still have enough remaining to keep me a happy chappie??

later folks!

David


Posted by kr00t0n on Jun-05-2003 07:29:

I find my mixing improves on 1 or 1/2 a pill, any more, and it will still seem fine to me, buts thats just coz I'd be too fooked to notice

Mixing on a little coke however, safe as fuck!!


Posted by NuclearFusi0n on Jun-05-2003 07:53:

ecstasy fucks with your brain chemistry to a point where there is permanent damage with repeated use

what's your point?

i stick to the soft drugs, acid, shrooms, cannabis....:S


Posted by kr00t0n on Jun-05-2003 09:04:

quote:
Originally posted by NuclearFusi0n
ecstasy fucks with your brain chemistry to a point where there is permanent damage with repeated use

what's your point?

i stick to the soft drugs, acid, shrooms, cannabis....:S


You might consider acid/shrooms to be softer drugs (due to lack of real physical effects I assume), but I rate them more powerful than pills or coke could ever hope to be.

Hallucinagenics (spelling?) are by far my fav, but they are also the ones I am the most careful with.

Prolonged LSD usage will mess you up mentally way more than pills, even if you use the average ratio of say 1 trip for every 4 pills.

Take any heavy pill user, divide their total consumption over the years by 4, and imagine if they had taken that many trips over the same amount of time... they would have mental issues.


Posted by NuclearFusi0n on Jun-05-2003 09:22:

well it depends on what you mean by "messed up"

i know a few guys that are what you would call "permafried" on acid, and they don't mind it...

but i do, however, know quite a few guys that got addicted to coke and just couldn't let it go. sad actually.


Posted by kr00t0n on Jun-05-2003 10:02:

quote:
Originally posted by NuclearFusi0n
well it depends on what you mean by "messed up"

i know a few guys that are what you would call "permafried" on acid, and they don't mind it...

but i do, however, know quite a few guys that got addicted to coke and just couldn't let it go. sad actually.


Hehe, I didnt mean that pills/coke are good, just that acid/shrooms arent as harmless as ppl often think, s'all


Posted by NuclearFusi0n on Jun-05-2003 10:03:

quote:
Originally posted by kr00t0n
Hehe, I didnt mean that pills/coke are good, just that acid/shrooms arent as harmless as ppl often think, s'all

Moderation, my friend, the key to all things good.


Posted by NuclearFusi0n on Jun-05-2003 10:04:

P.S. Grouping all pills into one big "pill" category isn't very good. Are you talking about opiates? Benzos? Amphetamines?


Posted by diffusion on Jun-06-2003 11:34:

Guys:
Drugs = Shit

If I were you, I'd stop doing them...

However I'm not, so I'll go fuck off now


Posted by tu_face on Jun-06-2003 13:02:

Re: Re: Re: drugs and dj'ing

quote:
Originally posted by hangover
well duh..., if you started taking em before you started djing f'course you couldn't notice a difference. But maybe if you hadn't taken them at all, YOU would be the #1 DJ in the world, rather than one of those fairy f0ks


well all i will say (trying not to sound bigheaded) is that im not shit at djing.. so it cant be bad for it. i have taken breaks of 2 months and not noticed any difference in my djing

coke is wank for djing, it makes you think you are good when infact you may be shit (see judge jules for proof)

another point is that mixing on pills increases ur concentration as you get way more into it etc.. but as i said before if you have more than 2 before mixing you're fucked (nice pun )

diffusion: have you ever taken drugs?


Posted by butterfly on Jun-06-2003 13:17:

Re: Re: Re: Re: drugs and dj'ing

quote:
Originally posted by tu_face
coke is wank for djing, it makes you think you are good when infact you may be shit (see judge jules for proof)


though i dont condone coke, sasha is a prime example of how you can get an awesome set from it...

quote:
Originally posted by NuclearFusi0n
ecstasy fucks with your brain chemistry to a point where there is permanent damage with repeated use

what's your point?

i stick to the soft drugs, acid, shrooms, cannabis....:S


you are right about the permanent affects of e. i dont think i will ever be quite right again. (and it has been 3 years) but as much as i love acid, i wouldnt call that soft by any means. i mean, in my day i used to pop pills for the hell of it but even at my most careless times i wouldnt do that with acid. because that is one of those drugs that you just KNOW how bad it is for your mind.


honestly, on this board i often feel like ppl are making excuses to justify that drug use is ok, but on all honesty, there are bad for you, in moderation or not. you are degrading your brain and your body. sure, you can control it by doing it less but you will be pressed to prove that the physical/mental benefits (if any) outweigh the detrimental effects.

but back to the topic at hand, i cant say if drugs affect djing or not. i mean, i once witnessed a huge positive change in a dj's set, coindentally right after he did a line... but i think it depends on the person. i mean, historically, drugs have been claimed to be mind opening and shit and many great works of art have been attributed to how fucked up the artists were... but is great art/music worth the price you make your mind and body pay?


Posted by kr00t0n on Jun-06-2003 18:36:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: drugs and dj'ing

quote:
Originally posted by butterfly
though i dont condone coke, sasha is a prime example of how you can get an awesome set from it...



you are right about the permanent affects of e. i dont think i will ever be quite right again. (and it has been 3 years) but as much as i love acid, i wouldnt call that soft by any means. i mean, in my day i used to pop pills for the hell of it but even at my most careless times i wouldnt do that with acid. because that is one of those drugs that you just KNOW how bad it is for your mind.


honestly, on this board i often feel like ppl are making excuses to justify that drug use is ok, but on all honesty, there are bad for you, in moderation or not. you are degrading your brain and your body. sure, you can control it by doing it less but you will be pressed to prove that the physical/mental benefits (if any) outweigh the detrimental effects.

but back to the topic at hand, i cant say if drugs affect djing or not. i mean, i once witnessed a huge positive change in a dj's set, coindentally right after he did a line... but i think it depends on the person. i mean, historically, drugs have been claimed to be mind opening and shit and many great works of art have been attributed to how fucked up the artists were... but is great art/music worth the price you make your mind and body pay?


Well said

Legal drugs (alcohol, ciggies) also are bad for you, alcohol not so much in moderation, but ciggies deffo, and no-one ever complians about them.


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