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Posted by SgtFoo on Jun-04-2003 22:48:

quick mixer feature question...

DO all mixers designed for trance/dance mixing have a PLF (or similar function) feature?? b/c I know I want and need this feature. I just need to know what mixers to steer towards or away from.

Posted by auujay on Jun-04-2003 23:01:

I think it is safe to say that just because they claim to be made for dance/techno does not mean they have this feature. As for the other half, I am curious myself? Which good trance mixers don't have PLF?

Posted by raaven on Jun-05-2003 00:26:

i can't stand mixers that don't have them. makes life a living hell.

Posted by Ave it!! on Jun-05-2003 14:23:

What's PLF?

Just reading this post and was thinking of buying a new mixer myself, just wondering what's PLF? could anyone please tell me wot it is and does?

Cheers

Posted by Dj Thy on Jun-05-2003 16:22:

PFL = Pre Fader Listening. Useful for cueing up the next record.

Most mixers do have some kind of PFL nowadays though. It's just the method that differs. Some mixers for example don't allow for more than one source to be in PFL. Others have a master/pfl fader. Even others have split cue...

Posted by XxClayxX on Jun-05-2003 16:41:

i love split cue it makes it 10x eaiser for me to beatmatch

Posted by pumavisor808 on Jun-05-2003 21:24:

What mixers don't have this??? Wouldn't this be essential for any mixer... Hell even my 1st mixer ($50 Next mixer) had this....

Why would you buy a mixer without it??? Isn't that what the mixer does?
Split cue is a different story (They all don't have that)

Posted by djshawnb on Jun-06-2003 19:11:

i never saw a mixer without one. are there any mixers that dont have that fuction, like how else do u mix if u cant cue? i would never buy a mixer without the pfl, its neccessary otherwise itll be hard to mix for sure.

Posted by JohnSmith on Jun-06-2003 19:42:

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Posted by Boomer187 on Jun-06-2003 21:49:

^^teh funny^^

I can't imagine not using it. So much easier, great especially when I make mixes when people are sleeping in the next room.

Posted by Dj Flesch on Jun-07-2003 23:58:

Actually, this question did have merit at one time, but not any longer. The very first generation of mixers were really nothing other than crossfaders. The djs didn't use headphones and you couldn't control the volumes or change the pitch. Of course, this was back in the 1950s or so, when the very first djs were coming about. A good book to read if you want to know more about the history of djing is: Last Night a DJ Saved My Life; The History of the Disc Jockey, by Bill Brewster and Frank Broughton.

Posted by DjJade on Jun-08-2003 00:19:

yeah i think a more important question is what kindn of pfl you want. lots of scratch mixers and some other club mixers have a cue fader which is nice. some have on or off cue buttons and with others you can only listen to one at a time. also there are ones with split cuing... take your pick then im sure someone will tell you whats good.

my first mixer was a scratch mixer and the cue fader was nice... then i got a xone62 and its either on or off but you can cheat a bit and turn up the gain when cuing to bring out your cued records... just remmeber to turn it back down when mixing in : P

Posted by JohnSmith on Jun-08-2003 01:10:

yeah, that's the same on my vestax PCV275. a cue fader would sure be nice.

another nice thing to have would be the ability to cue the master output. I think DJM500/600 has this. so you hear in your cans what the crowd hears, AFTER the crossfader and line faders.

my vestax doesn't have this, and it would really help for mixing in loud environments (or when you want to mix without the speakers on cuz your neighbours will call the cops)

Posted by gibbo on Jun-08-2003 01:35:

most mixers now will have a pfl feature there will be some that dont but general 90% of em seem to have it

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith
yeah, that's the same on my vestax PCV275. a cue fader would sure be nice.

another nice thing to have would be the ability to cue the master output. I think DJM500/600 has this. so you hear in your cans what the crowd hears, AFTER the crossfader and line faders.

my vestax doesn't have this, and it would really help for mixing in loud environments (or when you want to mix without the speakers on cuz your neighbours will call the cops)

the cueing setup on vestax mixers is shit i hate it i have one and everything else is brilliant but the cueing setup is shit i've got used to one ear on one off which works with any mixer coz i cant stand trying to use the cueing pfls and stuff on my mixer

Posted by JohnSmith on Jun-09-2003 16:40:

yeah, a lot of people complain about cueing on vestax mixers..

it's not that bad though, same as DJM500, except, you can't cue the master, and there is no cue pan.

Posted by Luke Terry on Jun-09-2003 17:43:

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith
yeah, a lot of people complain about cueing on vestax mixers..

it's not that bad though, same as DJM500, except, you can't cue the master, and there is no cue pan.

600 ownz tho