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Iraqi Museum Looting: Update

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/...,974063,00.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...er=emailarticle

that is one of the saddest part of the war IMO... happening with american soldiers not doing anything to stop it

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Originally posted by ahlamalek that is one of the saddest part of the war IMO... happening with american soldiers not doing anything to stop it

Yes it was a shame, but it's good to know that it was not nearly as bad as previously thought. And that the American forces weren't lying when they said there were hostile forces inside the museum.

Makes you wonder though ... every news agency jumped on this story when it originally broke about how terrible it was, look how many pieces were lost, a cultural disaster, how could the americans do this, etc.

You would think that people would STILL be concerned about this cultural history, would still want to know that many of these artifacts were in fact not lost, and yet there was virtually no news coverage of this fact. Why? Apparentely the media bias flows both ways ...

After seeing shots of inside the museum (everything became rubble), I wonder how its not AS bad as first stated? Even the special cultural advisor (exact title?) to the Bush adm. resigned...

anyways, I really hope it wasn't as bad, but I'm quite pessimistic.

Mind you i'm not trying to bash the US, after all its some stupid uneducated (and hungry) Iraqis that broke and stole these stuff...

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Originally posted by ahlamalek After seeing shots of inside the museum (everything became rubble), I wonder how its not AS bad as first stated? Even the special cultural advisor (exact title?) to the Bush adm. resigned... anyways, I really hope it wasn't as bad, but I'm quite pessimistic. Mind you i'm not trying to bash the US, after all its some stupid uneducated (and hungry) Iraqis that broke and stole these stuff...

Oh I agree with you 100%. The American troops did nothing to save the day so to speak. I'm glad that the Iraqi museum staff workers had the forsight to save much of the collectables before the war even started. I'm just happy that instead of the 170,000 pieces that were intially stated as being stolen, only 3000 were actually stolen. And that of the 8,000 exhibit quality pieces, only 33 were actually stolen (confirmed by Iraqi museum officials). And I read on reuters today that the 5,000 year old Warka vase that the Washington Post article mentioned was returned!!!

My only complaint with the whole situation is that why isn't this news recieving media coverage (just so we don't seem like complete assholes with respects to the museum debacle)? It was important before and it still is now.

Do you know whats even worse?

That Iraqi civilians even looted some atomic storage facilities that housed radioactive substances in containers.

If the US was so adament in removing "weapons of mass destruction"... you would think that radioactive materials would certainly be confiscated so they wouldnt leek out into the population... but it is evident they have other priorities on their agendas.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King Do you know whats even worse? That Iraqi civilians even looted some atomic storage facilities that housed radioactive substances in containers. If the US was so adament in removing "weapons of mass destruction"... you would think that radioactive materials would certainly be confiscated so they wouldnt leek out into the population... but it is evident they have other priorities on their agendas.

Well what do you expect? Bush has his brains up his ass and can't conduct a war for shit. He never paid attention to the post-war situation and now this is the result.

Bush is totally doing something different now to look good, but it seems to be worstening things between palestinians and israelis..and the economy, its a joke. 2004 2004 2004 2004!!

Anyways, some valuable pieces have been returned, Im happy for that.

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Originally posted by ahlamalek that is one of the saddest part of the war IMO... happening with american soldiers not doing anything to stop it

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THE OIL IS SAFE!

Oops, did I say 3,000 artifacts? Sorry, I meant 6,000, and possibly more...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...-2003Jun20.html

^Dang

Good job Bush, you've destroyed thousands of years of history

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Originally posted by Galapidate ^Dang Good job Bush, you've destroyed thousands of years of history

okay, this is a little too much Bush-bashing. he didn't do anything.

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Originally posted by DrummeRaver86 okay, this is a little too much Bush-bashing. he didn't do anything.

Yea if it's anybody's fault it would be Franks.

But it was Bush' responsibility to have a post-war plan in case something like this would happen.

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Originally posted by Galapidate But it was Bush' responsibility to have a post-war plan in case something like this would happen.

Not really ... I think his position operates at a higher level than that. It is his responsibility to berate those responsible for this sort of thing though.

The President is the commander of all U.S. military operations. He had to know about something like this.

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Originally posted by Galapidate The President is the commander of all U.S. military operations. He had to know about something like this.

Hehe Bush is commander in the sense that he gets update reports from the Pentagon ... he doesn't actually command in the tactical or strategic sense. My God what a fiasco that would be.

It wasn't Bush's responsibility to think of Iraqi museum looters in the post-war era. Like Occrider said, It would be the responisibility of Cmdr. Tommy Franks, considering he is the highest ranking officer in the "hot zone". It would, technically, also be the responsibility of the man the U.S. chose to facilitate the rebuiling of Iraq.

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