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Posted by Steven Hays on Jun-15-2003 23:56:

Leaving the platter spinning?

When you spin, do you leave the platter going the whole time, or do you stop it after each record has been played, until you place a new record on it again? Just curious, cause I always see/hear of everyone keeping it on, I personally stop it and start it back up again. Just a thought I was having...

peace,

Steve


Posted by DJ Charlie on Jun-16-2003 00:20:

Which is the best way to get from one point to another with a bicycle carrying heavy weight attached behind you ?

Start rolling at point A and keep your speed till you get at point B ?
or Start at A... and take a break... then start again... take a break,... etc.. till you get at B ?

Its much easier to keep your speed cause the moment you are forcing the most is when you start rolling.

I believe its the same reason why DJs keep the platter spinning.
your table is forcing more at start.


Posted by ascension on Jun-16-2003 03:07:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Charlie
Which is the best way to get from one point to another with a bicycle carrying heavy weight attached behind you ?

Start rolling at point A and keep your speed till you get at point B ?
or Start at A... and take a break... then start again... take a break,... etc.. till you get at B ?

Its much easier to keep your speed cause the moment you are forcing the most is when you start rolling.

I believe its the same reason why DJs keep the platter spinning.
your table is forcing more at start.


personal preference really...

you'd have the platter up to speed before you dropped a song, regardless of whether you have it spinning the whole time, or start it up a few seconds before, so i dont agree with that view

sometimes i stop the platter when ive queued the incoming record at the right place, but i dont stop it to take a record off


Posted by sebjr on Jun-16-2003 03:54:

i used to stop between records and then start again, until i noticed noone else did. i dont think there is any need to now so i dont do it plus it looks cool when the decks are spinning


Posted by Tiger777 on Jun-16-2003 05:46:

ha, who turns them off? I leave them turning... i'm too fuckin lazy to turn them off


Posted by j_spot on Jun-16-2003 08:31:

ive seen lots of Djs use the stop/start method

hit it twice pretty fast, enough to slow down a beat but keep spinning...if you dont notice anything over the system, you are picking up the right needle.
otherwise you could look like a fool.


Posted by Luke Terry on Jun-16-2003 10:14:

Cool

if i'm doin a dj battle i'll stop it through courtesy and to rest the phones down, or if i am using a cd deck instead and have to reach and don't want to catch anything and lock the tonearm, but if i am just doing a set by myself ill generally just leave em on


Posted by Mister_Michel on Jun-16-2003 11:03:

I usually stop it when I change vinyl, but when the new one is on it, I immediatelly turn it back ok. But I don't care really if I stop it or not, because sometimes i do, and sometimes I don't.


Posted by Boomer187 on Jun-16-2003 14:48:

I stop it outta habit, started when I started djin and never kicked it. No use in actually stopping it when you are just gonna start it back up.


Posted by JohnSmith on Jun-16-2003 16:31:

quote:
Originally posted by j_spot
ive seen lots of Djs use the stop/start method

hit it twice pretty fast, enough to slow down a beat but keep spinning...if you dont notice anything over the system, you are picking up the right needle.
otherwise you could look like a fool.


that's gotta be about the WORST idea i have ever heard. how about looking at the cross fader and seeing which deck is playing? or.. just knowing?!?

or if you really don't know, and your spinning whitelabels or something, then, just move the volume a bit or something, don't stop the record!

(BTW, i never turn off the decks, unless i've found my cue point and don't want to lose it)


Posted by bachatu on Jun-16-2003 16:44:

I never hit stop, its just habbit i guess. I just concentrate on getting the next track up and running and cue'd. I would think though, that its less stress on the motor to keep running. Less wear over a long amount of time.
Something i do stop the platter for though is stop it on a specific cue point, instead of holding the record. That only really happens if i have a long to go before im going to mix my next track and if i want to start hunting down the 3rd record down.


Posted by DaveSZ on Jun-16-2003 17:31:

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith
that's gotta be about the WORST idea i have ever heard. how about looking at the cross fader and seeing which deck is playing? or.. just knowing?!?

or if you really don't know, and your spinning whitelabels or something, then, just move the volume a bit or something, don't stop the record!

(BTW, i never turn off the decks, unless i've found my cue point and don't want to lose it)


Yeah, but you want to lift the needle off of the record before you stop the platter, or it will burn a spot in the groove and turn into a "pop" sound like that chemist guy said.


Posted by Omegasox on Jun-16-2003 18:06:

You know what I think I stop the platter everytime. Then again, I'm just a bedroom DJ, but now that I think about it I'm pretty sure I stop it everytime. Just a habit I've formed hehe.


Posted by JohnSmith on Jun-16-2003 18:49:

quote:
Originally posted by DaveSaenz
Yeah, but you want to lift the needle off of the record before you stop the platter, or it will burn a spot in the groove and turn into a "pop" sound like that chemist guy said.


what? i've never heard that before.. somehow i doubt it. you mean DJ_Flesch?


Posted by DjJade on Jun-16-2003 18:59:

no im the one who said that...yes its true beucase theneedle gets really hot from friction and if you stop it after playing it for a while or scratching or soemthing then it will burn a hole in place that its resting in.


Posted by JohnSmith on Jun-16-2003 19:08:

lol, just went and replied to your other post and came back here to delete this one.

anyway, that's cool to know, i do that sometimes for a cool effect when i have both tunes matched together, but ones beat is about to drop out. I guess maybe just dropping the volume would be better for my records than hitting the stop button.

i wonder, how quickly does the heat dissipate? quick enough that the 1 or 2 seconds of brake time cools it? what about a backspin, do you think this would do the same damage? (i do those too, but not much, and usually not on my good records)


Posted by DjJade on Jun-16-2003 19:31:

i bet backspinning isnt very good but its not like the platter doesnt stop so the record will eventually catch and still go. im sure that the dissipation time for a needle in the air is short but you haev to remember that the needle is resting on vinyl...and vinyl absorbs alot of heat which is why its bad to leave it in the sun..im sure its a good insulator too... but... well ok im not sure but whatever. it makes sense to me

stopping for effects is fine, im sure, as long as you pick up the needle immediately and not just leave it sitting there while you look up and see the looks on your [imaginary] crowds face lol... im saying imaginary becuase i know youre primarily a bedroom dj as i am...well the last time we talked thats what you said...

so...yeah


Posted by JohnSmith on Jun-16-2003 19:48:

lol, yeah, still a bedroom DJ. but, i am playing a stag party though, in a restaurant.. should be interesting. all guys, i doubt there will be any dancing..

anyway, yeah, that' intresting. i'd really like to know how long it takes to burn the record, and how long before the heat dissipates.

I think i will take a shitty record when i get home, get in spinning at 45RPM, +8%, then hit the brake in a quiet part, and see if i can make it pop. I don't care about the record, but this won't do any damage to my needle will it?


Posted by DjJade on Jun-16-2003 19:53:

lol...probably the record more so than the needle but...hey its all in the name of science lol...

try spinninging back and then stopping the record and pressing the needle down really hard

lmao


Posted by DaveSZ on Jun-16-2003 21:10:

Another thing worth a mention:

If you have slipmats with heavy paint on them and don't turn the platter off while removing the record, it could scratch up the record some. I use the softer side of the slip mat (the back). Who cares about aesthetics when/if you fuck up an irreplaceable record??


Posted by DJ Charlie on Jun-17-2003 01:19:

quote:
Originally posted by DaveSaenz
Another thing worth a mention:

If you have slipmats with heavy paint on them and don't turn the platter off while removing the record, it could scratch up the record some. I use the softer side of the slip mat (the back). Who cares about aesthetics when/if you fuck up an irreplaceable record??



I ordered Bonzai slipmat... I'm wondering if they are heavy paint slipmat like you'Re talking about...
i hope they are not
I'm getting them on thursday


Posted by Sharpy on Jun-19-2003 12:45:

quote:
Originally posted by DjJade
hey its all in the name of science lol...


Lol.

Disclaimer: This product is not tested on Vinyl!


Posted by Greedy on Jun-21-2003 15:37:

i turn it off everytime because i was djing with this dude and he left the tables on the whole night until he accidently bumped the tonearm and the needle fell right on the dots on the spinning platter. my heart almost collapsed.


Posted by Breeze on Jun-22-2003 13:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Busy Child
i turn it off everytime because i was djing with this dude and he left the tables on the whole night until he accidently bumped the tonearm and the needle fell right on the dots on the spinning platter. my heart almost collapsed.


no biggie it happens alot in the Djing world, what would be worse is if it happened while the channel fader was up (ugly noise)


personally i leave the tt spinning coz u gonna have to have hit start again anyway. i only stop the tt when theres another dj taking over.


Posted by venomdx on Jun-22-2003 13:50:

I stop the platter once I've cued the record, I don't see any point in leaving it spinning.



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