doesnt sound the same through the headphones and speakers.

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Posted by Unknown DJ on Jun-17-2003 16:42:

doesnt sound the same through the headphones and speakers.

hey peeps. just a quick question. why is it that when i mix it NEVER sounds the same through my speekers and through my headphones? it sounds great through my headphones but when i put it through the sterio it sounds cack. i cant really explane in words whatsit sounds like. but its not nice, even tho the records r in perfect sync. is there any tips you guys can give me on how to make it sound the same through the phones and thew speekers? im currently running through 4 12 inch subs, i have a spall graphic equalizer built into the amp, but its only 5 chanels :S.

any halp would be apreachiated. thanks

another thing is that ive been trying to get a simular sound or what AVB had on asot 100. the beat sounded so nice on that just when one song wasd playin, but i cant seem to adjust the eq to get that either.

Posted by DjTasper on Jun-17-2003 21:18:

there are a few things that might be causing this...

1.make sure your ground wires are hooked up correctly cuz this can cause a humming sound

2.your fones don't have to go very loud in order for them to be heard so they have alot less distortion and overall better sound quality in most cases

3.if you have subs hooked up to your setup you have to be very careful with bass because subs catch a lot lower frequencys then your fones and they basically screw you over and magnify the sound frequencys that you can't hear on your fones the only solution i can think of is watch your EQ on the mixer when your going from cue to live and make sure nothing is playing to strong or get new and better fones thats catch low ass frequencys

hope that helps

Posted by DR86 on Jun-17-2003 22:30:

Don't quote me on this, but I think that when you are using stereo speakers, there tends to be more distortion and outside noise, which will lessen sound quality. Also, it might be that with headphones as you raise the volume there won't be as much bass distortion like in speakers.

Posted by Dj Flesch on Jun-17-2003 23:14:

There are a LOT of factors that can affect overall sound output in your speakers. I will try to list a few things here, but unless you record the sound so that we can actually hear it, then I don't know how much help we will be.

First off, you weren't clear on when this sound was occuring. Is it only during the transitions, or does it occur all of the time when you are using your TTs. Hmm, well actually, you didn't even say that you had TTs, so what equipment do you have? You will basically have to get very specific with your setup, what equipment you have, how it is set up, if you run any diagnostics on it, when the sound occurs, did it always occur or did it just start recently, etc, etc.

First thing that I would do check all of your cables. Do you have them connected tightly? Are all the speaker cables connected so that they are polarized with eachother (ie the red outlet on your amp goes to the red inlet on your speakers and the same with white, and NOT red to white etc.) If not, this can affect how the sound comes out of your speakers. Also, how big is your room? Is it small enough that if you have turntables, you are causeing a feedback loop? How loud do you have it turned up?

If all of your cables are okay, and you are sure that you aren't causeing feedback into your system (turn the volume down to a resonable level), then try to isolate further where it is coming from.

Hook up a normal cd player to your mixer and play a cd. Does that sound the same or better. If it does sound better, then it is your CD deck or TT. Also, make sure that you check each output on your mixer and not just one. If there is still a problem, then maybe it is your mixer. Hook up the cd player (or TT if you can) directly to your amp. How about now? If it sounds better, then the problem is your mixer. If it still sounds bad, then it may be your amp or speakers.

If you have more than one pair of speakers or another amp, then try switching them out until you eliminate the problem. If you still have a problem, then it is obviously something that you're overlooking, or your speakers just suck Give me more details!! And for future reference, the more information you give us, the better we can help you right from the start! We don't know anything other than what you tell us, so be very descriptive if you want some real help. If any of this helps, then let us know what it is and if not, then tell us what you have tried and maybe it's time for a sound sample!

Posted by raaven on Jun-18-2003 01:44:

could just be an echo problem and how the speakers are set up and shit?

Posted by Dj Thy on Jun-18-2003 15:57:

1. Your headphones have a different frequency response. No way a 50 mm coil will sound exactly the same as a bigass speaker. Pure physics.
For example you can have bass cancellation on the speakers, but not in the headphones, just for the reason that your speakers can output that low, while your phones can't. You can't cancel out what you already don't have.
Generally, be more careful with low frequencies on speakers, the bigger the system, the more careful you'll have to be.

Sorry there's no magic in that. You'll just have to learn to make links. You'll have to learn that what sounds that way on your phones will translate to that on the speakers (and that is different on each system).

2. Armins sets are broadcasted. When you do broadcasts the signal always passes some heavy processing gear (to be conform with the broadcast standard of that stationn, etc...). Don't think that what you hear from Armin is the straight output from his mixer. Generally you'll find a graphic equalizer (30 bands or more), maybe an extra parametric one, a compressor, and finally a limiter (the last two steps can be combined into one finalizer). That'll definately change your sound. Unless you have all that gear, you'll be challenged to get the same sound as on those pro broadcast.