First (proper) try at hard trance

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Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jun-24-2003 15:49:

First (proper) try at hard trance

Hi there... I'm trying to produce my first ever hard(ish) trance track and now I'm stuck... so I'm seeking for your assistance.

The problem is that I cannot seem to get a decent lead for it... then I started wondering if it even needs a lead, maybe I could fill it up with other crap.

Oh well, anyway, lemme know what you think of this:
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Posted by Eugene on Jun-25-2003 02:22:

Hello Nik,

This sounds more like regular trance to me than hard trance. In response to your question "Do I need a lead?" my answer is yes.

I noticed a very good synth effect -- it was kinda hard to hear behind that main grainy synth bass -- that went like whoop-whoop, whoo-whoop-whoop. Very nice for hard trance. I suggest you make that synth louder, and elaborate on it.

Posted by nic01445 on Jun-25-2003 03:14:

i agree that this is more "regular" trance, per say, than hard trance, but the "hard" elements are definitely there. need a lead? of course. nice work though, with the atmosphere, fills, percussion, etc. please finish.

Posted by -blake- on Jun-25-2003 03:21:

This sounds great! Nice work for sure.
I agree with the others though, I think a lead would be pretty useful. It definitely has the feel that there should be a really catchy lead over top, nothing too complex though. I'd have it build in slowly then kick in hard at some point.

But for sure, keep working on this! I'd love to hear what you do with it..very nice work with the overall sound and rythyms.

Posted by tu_face on Jun-25-2003 09:36:

if this is to be hard, it needs a meatier kick and thicker more pounding bass as ppl have already said this sounds more like just pumpin trance.. you need to make everything sound as if if u hit it with ur fist it would break you

sounds really good tho

Posted by somnium on Jun-25-2003 09:50:

pretty well done, nice percussion work. pretty textbook, but pretty nice...it's really not all that hard of trance...

and as for needing a lead...you don't "need" anything. trance doesn't have to be melodic, or even harmonic, but most people like it that way.

experiment with different sounds, different effects...maybe this could be a breakthrough track

Posted by Icone on Jun-25-2003 09:58:

Sounds nice, hard elements are there indeed. Except the real hard trance feel though

I think it is a good idea, there aren't many people trying hard trance with Reason (maybe it's not that obvious?)... In my eyes, you're almost like a pioneer on that matter

Keep working on it I'd say!
LW

Posted by stonecore on Jun-25-2003 11:54:

well...

well it sounds a little bit like nrg trance but not really like hard trance. you need a phatt melodic lead-sound and a nice acid line, some filling strings (with absynth) would also be nice...

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jun-25-2003 13:03:

Thanks for your comments - it seems I've decided to go against everything you've said... oh well, you'll see

Posted by JohnOC on Jun-25-2003 13:42:

sounds lovely

except to me this is not *hard* trance, its trance thats a little bit harder than normal

bigger tougher kick for the hard edge!!! BOOM GATE REVERB

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jun-25-2003 13:58:

Well it's hard for my standards, I'm not really into the "real" hard trance thing...

Posted by JohnOC on Jun-25-2003 14:04:

as in SHOKK.........Dumonde type thing

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jun-25-2003 14:09:

Something like that, yeah

Posted by deejay_naku on Jun-26-2003 17:24:

Make this one a bit "darker" in general, and you'll get yourself a dancefloor stormer.

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jun-26-2003 17:31:

I may actually ditch this or use as a basis on some other tune, I don't think it's working as it is.

Posted by tranzMental on Jun-26-2003 20:15:

Mr.Mystery - I've been craving for some Flutlicht/Shokk style melodies on these boards - well, I'm not looking for replica's, or wannabe's, of course, but be yourself.

I agree with the rest - this needs a lead - but at the same time, it reminds me of regular energetic trance. Perhaps your taking this to a different direction?

We'll see - most of your music doesn't have any faults. Keept it up! -Mental

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jun-27-2003 12:06:

The truth is that I don't really know where this track is going. I tried to do a lead to it but it became a cheesefest. Then I tried to work my way around it without any lead at all and an orchestral piece in the middle but it didn't work either...

Right now it's just sitting here waiting for me to get an idea (unlikely) or for someone to come and save this track.